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Study: Insurance costs to soar under Obamacare
CBS News ^ | Sept 26, 2013 | Kathy Kristof

Posted on 09/29/2013 1:39:38 AM PDT by Innovative

New research from the Manhattan Institute estimates that insurance rates for young men will rise by 99 percent. Rates for younger women will rise between 55 percent to 62 percent, according to the right-leaning New York think tank.

The precise impact of the new health law is likely to vary markedly from state-to-state, however.

These differences mean men will get hammered in North Carolina with an average 305 percent rate hike, while women will suffer in Nebraska, paying an average of 237 percent more. For most people, subsidies in the law will not counteract the rate shock, says co-author of the study Avik Roy, a health care expert and senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 0carenightmare; exchanges; healthinsurance; healthinsurancerates; insurance; insurancerates; medicalcare; obama; obamacare; obamacarecosts; socializedmedicine
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And wait until it does get fully implemented -- the skyrocketing premiums will be coupled with dismal medical care services... just wait and see.
1 posted on 09/29/2013 1:39:38 AM PDT by Innovative
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To: Innovative

The article also has a link to an interactive map, where you can see the rate increases for particular states.

http://www.manhattan-institute.org/knowyourrates/

Related article:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2013/09/04/interactive-map-in-13-states-plus-d-c-individual-health-premiums-will-increase-by-an-average-of-24/


2 posted on 09/29/2013 1:42:51 AM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Innovative

Nice weekend news dump by See BS.


3 posted on 09/29/2013 2:14:08 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Make today a great day. Insult a liberal.)
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To: Innovative

Remember its not insurance its a TAX!

It was passed by the demons to destroy America!


4 posted on 09/29/2013 2:16:02 AM PDT by Southern by Grace (kickbacks, bribes, maifia payoffs is how the D's get R' done!)
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To: Innovative

Every day I thank God that I got out of the USSA before I had ever heard of Barky Obumbo.
I send my sincere condolences for those living in the Obamanation.


5 posted on 09/29/2013 2:21:42 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: Innovative

This can’t be true, Obama told us that rates were going to fall!


6 posted on 09/29/2013 3:00:19 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Innovative

Hope. Change.

Great job, liberals. Just great. Really great.

Great job of destroying America.


7 posted on 09/29/2013 3:07:54 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Innovative
Not to worry.
ZERO will blame the Republicans & the LSM will lap that up.
I can see the headlines now.
"Republicans cause healthcare cost to rise. President ZERO is doing everything he can to get the cost down. . . "
43% will believe it.
8 posted on 09/29/2013 3:12:35 AM PDT by DeaconRed (Are you as sick as I am of this lying administration? Doing anything they want. Constitution ignored)
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To: Innovative

COUNTDOWN TO DOOOOMM
http://www.blinkx.com/watch-video/doom-ii-ost-map-03-21-countdown-to-death/_MuE9NJNSWPtEvPPZEo8Sw


9 posted on 09/29/2013 3:22:00 AM PDT by jimsin
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To: Innovative

Just had family members, including a male, move from Long Island, NY, to North Carolina - !


10 posted on 09/29/2013 3:24:21 AM PDT by USARightSide (S U P P O R T I N G OUR T R O O P S)
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To: AlexW

Mehhhh... USA is still the best place to live hands down. Not by as wide a margin as in the 50s thru the 80s... but still.

Our people will move to reshape the government as we always do.


11 posted on 09/29/2013 4:09:39 AM PDT by Principled
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To: Innovative

aaaaaaaand remember the 25 traitors that sided with the entire Democrat party in the senate to ram 0bamacare down our throats while getting exemptions for themselves, their families and their worthless scumbag staffers!!!!!!!!!!


12 posted on 09/29/2013 4:15:53 AM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: Innovative

The cost increases only if you have insurance now and you pay to have insurance tomorrow. If you don’t insure, the cost is zero - except for the Obama/Roberts Tax.


13 posted on 09/29/2013 4:43:28 AM PDT by Bernard (The Road To Hell is not paved with good results.)
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To: AlexW

I’m envious. The day fast approaches when leaving the United States will not be allowed. It’s going to be the Red-White-and-Blue Curtain.


14 posted on 09/29/2013 4:45:38 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Innovative

In any “transfer of wealth” schemes, somebody has to pay.

I always wanted a free pony but long ago I learned that I am the provider of free ponies for others, not the recipient.


15 posted on 09/29/2013 4:53:21 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: Innovative

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlOYgYDqWpU

post election on 0’care seniors to take brunt.

Suggest every one rent or buy Damaged Care about the HMO’s cause that is what 0’care is going to be. Chronically ill were purposely killed off. Sarah Palin’s death panels happened much earlier than even she knew about.

Amazon and Netflix have the movie.


16 posted on 09/29/2013 5:02:40 AM PDT by GailA (THOSE WHO DON'T KEEP PROMISES TO THE MILITARY, WON'T KEEP THEM TO U!)
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To: Innovative

Didn’t need a “study” to figure that out, it was a given.


17 posted on 09/29/2013 5:03:04 AM PDT by maddog55 (America Rising.... Civil War II)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
And they are low balling the actual rise in cost. Even Forbes has it wrong.


18 posted on 09/29/2013 5:11:50 AM PDT by GailA (THOSE WHO DON'T KEEP PROMISES TO THE MILITARY, WON'T KEEP THEM TO U!)
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To: Innovative

Chief Dufus Roberts is the most guilty party in this fiasco. Though it was never passed as a tax, he “deemed” it a tax, though Pelosi “deemed” it not a tax. All Supreme Court justices should be required to keep their decrepit bones breathing with mandatory ObamaCare coverage.


19 posted on 09/29/2013 5:17:03 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Innovative

They forgot the by-line. But only for the producers who now pay for everyone!


20 posted on 09/29/2013 5:20:49 AM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: Innovative

Insurance rates for old men will rise too

My Medicare Advantage doctor visit cost increased by 200%

The out of pocket limit increased by 28%

The drug cost increase is too complex to calculate

Obama care is, inspite of the current efforts in Congress


21 posted on 09/29/2013 5:22:12 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: GailA

Did you intend to say “medium income”? Or should that be “median income”? —Just a math major seeking clarification.


22 posted on 09/29/2013 5:22:40 AM PDT by Senator_Blutarski
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To: Southern by Grace

And when this TAX is established, will the next TAX be for not buying a solar panel? A TAX for not buying a bicycle? Obamacare TAX is illegal.


23 posted on 09/29/2013 5:24:31 AM PDT by abclily
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To: bert

I went to fill my my teenage daughters RX,doxycycline. $1100. I had to use some special card by the manufacturer that magically got it down to $10. I may be getting old but I remember getting giant bottles of tetracycline for about five dollars a bottle. I have driven down to Mexico and bought doxycycline for less than five bucks. Why is a really old and hardly cutting edge antibiotic costing this much? ( the generic was still 500 dollars)


24 posted on 09/29/2013 5:27:52 AM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: Principled
Our people will move to reshape the government as we always do.

The people have already reshaped the government and this is one of the results.

25 posted on 09/29/2013 5:29:31 AM PDT by Senator_Blutarski
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To: Innovative

I know in Indiana - some public school teachers got a raise - it was all taken by the pre-costs of Obamacare being implemented here...there are people left and right being cut in full-time hrs - people working 2 maybe 3 jobs that are all part time - and the wages suck — Reid and Pelosi thought this would be good for just 30 million to have Health insurance - screw everyone else for just a few....

...and we all sat by and let it happen.


26 posted on 09/29/2013 5:34:13 AM PDT by BCW (The War in Iraq - http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html)
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To: Senator_Blutarski

Yes the point is that reshaping is a continual thing. The most recent change is undesirable of course - but that does not preclude future changes.

I mean who woulda thunk this much fight out of House repubs?

It’s swinging back. We’re center-right but 0bama took us hard left. We’ll all be pissed when it hits - which is what will add momentum to the swing back.


27 posted on 09/29/2013 5:35:55 AM PDT by Principled
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To: Innovative
insurance rates for young men will rise by 99 percent. Rates for younger women will rise between 55 percent to 62 percent

ObamaCare's success depends on convincing young people who previously chose not to buy insurance that they should now participate. I wonder how successful the "navigators" will be at selling this product to the young after nearly doubling the price from a level that was already too high.

28 posted on 09/29/2013 5:40:30 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Principled

You sound optimistic, but it’s incredibly hard to fix the problems of socialized medicine. It creates a dependency even greater than Medicare and Medicaid. Once Obamacare is fully in place, Mitt Romney’s 47 percent gang of moochers will look like pikers by comparison.

“Free” health care — paid for by the evil 1 percent — will never die. The English socialized system — with filthy hospitals and poor recovery rates — is locked in. The English people will never give it up. They are mind-numbed robots. But American low-information voters are not far behind.


29 posted on 09/29/2013 5:51:09 AM PDT by heye2monn
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To: heye2monn

Yes it is a worry. But I do have confidence in the smart, capable, and hard working of us. We will outsmart, out-do, and out work the lazy ones to beat it.


30 posted on 09/29/2013 5:54:26 AM PDT by Principled
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To: heye2monn
You sound optimistic, but it’s incredibly hard to fix the problems of socialized medicine.

This isn't quite socialized medicine - yet. It's subsidized insurance. Insurance that is way too expensive with deductibles way too high for the takers to be happy with - once they find out about it.

Suckers.

31 posted on 09/29/2013 5:57:21 AM PDT by Principled
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To: Lazamataz

” The day fast approaches when leaving the United States will not be allowed.”
_____________________________________________
While I do not foresee that, it is possible, just as it was in central and east Europe when the Commies took over.
I think Obama is quite happy to be rid of people like me.

As for those that say they intend to fight and save the country, I admire their spirit, but as Rush says, I live in Realville. America is not being attacked by a foreign power, but from its own ignorant citizens, who outnumber traditional Americans, and expanding at a much more rapid rate. Do these fighters really want another civil war?

As I have stated many times on FR, Marxist media and Marxist education have destroyed the traditional America.
We have passed the point of fighting the ignorant and stupid citizens. The election of Obumbo was a pivotal event. His reelection sealed America’s fate.

Something in the future may save the country, but it will be only by an act of God, but he does not seem to be talking.


32 posted on 09/29/2013 6:06:55 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: heye2monn

I agree with you totally. The Dark Side has won and there’s no going back. If we had a conservative super majority in both Houses of Congress able to override a veto it could be stopped now, but you and I both know that’s not the case.

I’m afraid it’s done deal. We lost. The American people as a whole also have lost; they just don’t know it yet. And some never will.


33 posted on 09/29/2013 6:09:47 AM PDT by OldPossum
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To: OldPossum

Won’t be surprised if the rates are based on Red State, Blue State, That is how evil this Administration is.


34 posted on 09/29/2013 6:14:36 AM PDT by DAC21
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To: bert
Insurance rates for old men will rise too My Medicare Advantage doctor visit cost increased by 200% The out of pocket limit increased by 28% The drug cost increase is too complex to calculate Obama care is, in spite of the current efforts in Congress

Mine is not as bad.

Doctor visit up by 67%

I do not need at out of pocket limit at this time so do not know if it changed. It probably did.

Drug cost up 25%.

My wife's Advantage plan premium (mine is zero) went up 8% plus the increase in the Medicare premium.

35 posted on 09/29/2013 6:15:28 AM PDT by ProudFossil (" I never did give anyone hell. I just told the truth and they thought it was hell." Harry Truman)
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To: Principled
Mehhhh... USA is still the best place to live hands down. Not by as wide a margin as in the 50s thru the 80s... but still. Our people will move to reshape the government as we always do.

Unfortunately, once the communists have "broken a few eggs to make an omelet", it's real hard to put back together the eggs.


36 posted on 09/29/2013 6:28:04 AM PDT by Flick Lives (The U.S. is dead to me.)
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To: Innovative

How did DNC Dave at NBC miss this reporting!!!!!!
Dave could have avoided his clown act, if only he had the facts


37 posted on 09/29/2013 7:09:48 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: Innovative

305% increase in NC? Can’t be. The Charlotte Observer just ran a four page Sunday puff piece on how great Obamacare is going to be.

And you should SEE the opinion page!


38 posted on 09/29/2013 7:19:14 AM PDT by bolobaby
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To: Innovative

Will all that I bet the rates in the exchanges plans are just teaser offerings. Later they will adjust them higher when the revenues they were projecting don’t meet the required sustainable levels.
The old bait and switch. Many will just opt to pay the IRS penalty. What a cluster goat copulation.


39 posted on 09/29/2013 7:24:30 AM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: BCW

I didn’t sit by. Have gone to DC to raise my voice. My senators and congressman are on speed dial. I have talked till blue in the face. The MSM is our biggest enemy with lies, revionist history and lies by omission


40 posted on 09/29/2013 7:28:30 AM PDT by Josa
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To: Senator_Blutarski

Since I hocked the graphic I am not responsible for other’s mistakes. It should have been median income. LOL

And if they were from Memphis that would not be very high. With the exception of high government officials only FedEx owner makes the most in Memphis.


41 posted on 09/29/2013 8:04:46 AM PDT by GailA (THOSE WHO DON'T KEEP PROMISES TO THE MILITARY, WON'T KEEP THEM TO U!)
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To: Senator_Blutarski; Principled
The people have already reshaped the government and this is one of the results.

This is the result when good people ALLOW those in government to get away with the things they do.

Most of them should be in jail and a good majority should be hanging from lamp posts.

42 posted on 09/29/2013 8:47:47 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: tflabo
Will all that I bet the rates in the exchanges plans are just teaser offerings. Later they will adjust them higher ...

Yes, they will TRIPLE in 3 years. And that's just what's planned.

43 posted on 09/29/2013 8:51:20 AM PDT by Principled
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To: Innovative

0bamacare ensures the Marxocrats upset their base (females) as little as possible. ‘War on Women’ my azz! This is a War on Men!


44 posted on 09/29/2013 9:29:18 AM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (If Americans were as concerned for their country as Egyptians are, Obama would be ousted!)
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To: Southern by Grace

And did anyone say where this tax goes?


45 posted on 09/29/2013 9:33:31 AM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

To the Democrat’s slush fund?


46 posted on 09/29/2013 9:36:12 AM PDT by sport
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To: Innovative
just wait and see

Think what's going to happen when people who've never had an insurance policy before begin to discover everything that's free. Taking advantage of all of the freebies will cause costs to skyrocket, and insurance rates to be unsustainable within a few years.

In my nightmare hospital experience four years ago, I encountered an interesting group among those hospitalized over night. They were people who wanted to be there, for the free meals and room. I'm not kidding.

47 posted on 09/29/2013 9:38:04 AM PDT by grania
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To: tflabo
many will just opt to pay that IRS penalty

I'm wondering if at some point they'll have to say that once you've bought the insurance, you can't "opt out" because if you need to get it later there will be a horrible penalty. That's how they scare seniors into getting part B of Medicare.

What we could end up seeing is a two tiered situation. Those that can afford to do so will opt out and pay for the best private care. The best doctors, nurses, etc will serve private patients.

Actually, what could have worked is if the program were just insurance for catastrophic diseases. Instead everyone had an agenda and it all got included in this mess.

48 posted on 09/29/2013 9:49:10 AM PDT by grania
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To: Innovative

Awwwww. Poor babies. Too bad you were so stupid you voted for this pos. You get what you pay for and you pay for what you do.

I can afford it longer than most and I hope it becomes such a heavy price that it collapses the whole damn system. I hope it results in an outright backlash of monumental proportions.


49 posted on 09/29/2013 10:02:28 AM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: BCW

Some of us didn’t set and let it happen. We screamed bloody murder but reed and blinky were in total power and crammed it down our throats.

Costs are going through the roof and will never come down even if this mess is repealed. The costs are only one part thought.... the invasions of privacy, the loss of quality, the rules, the intrusive questions.


50 posted on 09/29/2013 10:38:37 AM PDT by Sequoyah101
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