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Are Government Schools a Form of Child Abuse?
Townhall.com ^ | September 29, 2013 | Daniel J. Mitchell

Posted on 09/29/2013 7:34:17 AM PDT by Kaslin

I’m a big fan of school choice. If we bust up the government education monopoly and create a competitive education market, we’ll get a much better education system at much lower cost.

This isn’t just idle theorizing. The evidence shows that competition produces better results.

That will be especially good news for children from poor and minority neighborhoods, as even the Washington Post has admitted.

There’s even good evidence for school choice from other nations, such as Chile, Sweden and the Netherlands.

And since we’re looking at international evidence, it’s worth noting that America spends more per student than any other nation, yet gets very mediocre results.

However, there’s also a non-educational argument for busting up the government school monopoly. Simply stated, we have to rescue kids from brainless school bureaucrats who impose crazy forms of anti-gun political correctness.

What am I talking about? Well, check out these excerpts from a Fox News report.

Natural Born Killers

Two seventh-grade students in Virginia Beach, Va., were handed long-term suspensions Tuesday that will last until the end of the school year for playing with an airsoft gun in one of their front yards while waiting for the school bus. WAVY-TV reports that 13-year-old Khalid Caraballo and Aidan Clark will face an additional hearing in January to determine if they will be expelled for “possession, handling and use of a firearm” because the guns were fired at two others playing in Caraballo’s yard. …Khalid claims he never took the toy gun to the designated bus stop or Larkspur Middle School, according to the report. Two other students who fired guns were also suspended.

Your eyes are not deceiving you. The kids were punished for playing with toy guns while on private property.

Yet apparently school bureaucrats don’t think their power is limited by school boundaries.

A neighbor saw Khalid shooting the airsoft gun in his yard and called 911, telling the dispatcher, “He is pointing the gun, and it looks like there’s a target in a tree in his front yard,” the station reported. …The school’s so-called “zero-tolerance” policy on guns extends to private property, according to the report.

At least one of the parents has the right view of things.

If you outlaw Zombie Hunters, only outlaws will have Zombie Hunters

Khalid’s mother, Solangel Caraballo, said it’s ridiculous that her son and his friends were suspended because they were firing the airsoft gun on private property. “My son is my private property. He does not become the school’s property until he goes to the bus stop, gets on the bus, and goes to school,” Caraballo told the station.

Now let’s add some important caveats. Even though the toy guns only shoot little plastic pellets, it seems that the boys may have shot at some kids who weren’t part of their play. That’s something that should be punished.

And it’s also possible that the boys are troublemakers and the school was simply using this episode as an excuse to get rid of them.

So maybe there’s some sort of “rough justice” happening behind the scenes and we’re not aware.

It’s almost to the point where sending your kids to a government school could be considered a form a child abuse.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: education

1 posted on 09/29/2013 7:34:17 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Allowing gays/lesbians to adopt children is child abuse.

For that matter, letting hard core progressives raise kids is child abuse.


2 posted on 09/29/2013 7:38:42 AM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: Kaslin

BAN PINK ASSAULT BUBBLE GUNS NOW!

Id have to say my favorite reason for keeping kids out of gubment schools would have to be making them safe from pedophile teachers

number two reason.......”ACT LIKE A MOOSELIM DAY”


3 posted on 09/29/2013 7:41:49 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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To: Kaslin

Debasing the pride of a child IS child abuse. Is the teacher using shame to mold the child into compliance?

Yes.

It is child abuse, and most parents know it, that is why they drug their children into compliance.

Child abuse.


4 posted on 09/29/2013 7:44:05 AM PDT by Truth2012
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To: Java4Jay

What it is is indoctrination, and not just about guns but anything that doesn’t conform to the left wing agenda.

Kids in choice schools in WI tend to graduate, unlike those in the public schools. Plus they can actually read their diplomas.


5 posted on 09/29/2013 7:44:49 AM PDT by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the altar of "gun free zones"?)
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To: Kaslin
“My son is my private property. He does not become the school’s property until he goes to the bus stop, gets on the bus, and goes to school,” Caraballo told the station.

There's so much wrong with that I don't even know where to start.

6 posted on 09/29/2013 7:46:47 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (We the People sent you to DEFUND it, not defend or delay it!)
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To: Kaslin

Yes, for many reasons including the homosexual indoctrination starting at age 5.


7 posted on 09/29/2013 7:49:27 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: Kaslin

Not after sixth period when I used to coach baseball.


8 posted on 09/29/2013 8:02:40 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Kaslin

To quote an old John Prine song (yes I know he’s a leftie): “A question isn’t really a question if you know the answer too.” Or sumpin’ like dat.


9 posted on 09/29/2013 8:04:33 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Kaslin
Government schools are prison preparatory institutions.
10 posted on 09/29/2013 8:04:54 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (When your policy is to rob Peter to pay Paul, you can count on enthusiastic support from Paul.)
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To: trebb

John Prine? I have never heard of him


11 posted on 09/29/2013 8:16:20 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

It’s called propaganda and brainwashing, IMO. Ever hear of Brown Shirts?


12 posted on 09/29/2013 8:16:33 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Kaslin

As you know, I did coin my own phrase for my own tag line on FR and am sticking to it.

“Public schools are the farm team for more Marxixts coming.”


13 posted on 09/29/2013 8:17:15 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: EternalVigilance
I agree. I human being is not a property. She should have thought it over before saying it.

It really helps to engage the brain before opening the mouth

14 posted on 09/29/2013 8:20:25 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

IMHO, sending your children to a government indoctrination center IS child abuse. Period.


15 posted on 09/29/2013 8:22:10 AM PDT by upchuck (nobamacare must be stopped before it can live down to our expectations.)
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To: Kaslin

Our “Public” school system was devised before the turn of the last century to “Americanize” the children of immigrants flooding into what was then a free land of opportunity. Even then they were supposed to produce ‘cookie cutter’ Americans to work the factories, mines and mills. Little has changed.


16 posted on 09/29/2013 8:39:41 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Kaslin

One word: YES to child abuse (and indoctrination).


17 posted on 09/29/2013 8:42:50 AM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: Kaslin
Are Government Schools a Form of Child Abuse?

Yes. Next question.

18 posted on 09/29/2013 9:06:23 AM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Kaslin
Three-quarters of Americans think teachers paid less than they really are
Washington Examiner ^ | 9-16-13 | ASHE SCHOW
"Seventy-four percent of Americans think teachers make less than they really do, according to a new poll from Rasmussen. The average teacher salary in America is $55,000 (upward of $75,000 in Chicago), but three quarters of Americans think teachers earn less than that. Over half of Americans (52 percent) believe teachers are paid too little."

Obama signs emergency bill to halt teacher layoffs
yahoo ^
Posted on Tue Aug 10 17:38:51 2010
"The aid for the states is to be paid for mostly by closing a tax loophole used by multinational corporations and by reducing food stamp benefits for the poor...The legislation provides $10 billion to school districts to rehire laid-off teachers or to ensure that more teachers won't be let go before the new school year begins."

Mutually Assured Destruction [Tues. debacle confirms growing rift between Dems & teachers unions.]
American Spectator ^ | 11/5/10 | RiShawn Biddle
"Congressional Democrats angered centrist school reformers, MoveOn.org-style progressives, and other party activists in August when they voted to ladle $10 billion in federal subsidies (funded from future cuts to the Food Stamp program) to school districts in order to stave off layoffs of 160,000 teachers (or just 2.6 percent of the nation's 6.2 million school employees). In turn, the National Education Association and the American Federation of Teachers poured more than $40 million of their hefty campaign war chests (including more than $15 million by the NEA in the last weeks of the election season alone) to help the Democrats keep full control of Congress."


19 posted on 09/29/2013 9:58:42 AM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Kaslin

I am NOT a fan of school of choice. All public schools (and for the most part private, parochial, and charter schools) whether they’re in failing districts or successful districts get the same curriculum, the same teachers from the same teacher colleges, the same textbooks, the same state and federal mandates. The only variable is the students. You want to destroy a good school district, just open your school to the problems that plague the inner city schools. Open your doors to the kids with behavioral problems (ie thugs) and the inability and unwillingness to learn and see how long before you turn your successful district into a struggling district. Not to mention the social problems that go along with it. I witnessed it first hand.


20 posted on 09/29/2013 10:43:11 AM PDT by FrdmLvr
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To: Java4Jay
... letting hard core progressives raise kids is child abuse

Ain't that the truth! My folks who leaned Socialist/communist, tried to raise me as such. Even so, I questioned (not verbally) every political line I heard from them like "guns are evil", "strong, central Government is best", " don't be independent or self-employed like me(DAD), just get a fat, cushy job in Government".

Sorry for the rant. That line really rang true.

p.s. I believed the nuns.

21 posted on 09/29/2013 1:53:57 PM PDT by Studebaker Hawk (These geeks are a dime-a-dozen. I'm looking for the man with the dimes. Freddy Blassy)
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To: Studebaker Hawk

Sorry ‘bout the nun part. It got cut for brevity. Next time.


22 posted on 09/29/2013 1:57:43 PM PDT by Studebaker Hawk (These geeks are a dime-a-dozen. I'm looking for the man with the dimes. Freddy Blassy)
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To: Kaslin

School is child abuse.


23 posted on 09/29/2013 3:28:01 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a female's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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To: Kaslin
John Prine? I have never heard of him

Old folksy type singer - circa Harry Chapin coming into the scene. You may have heard some old "Your flag decal won't get you into heaven" lyrics - once of his sick of 'Nam songs.

24 posted on 10/02/2013 3:08:31 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Kaslin; alphadog; infool7; Heart-Rest; HoosierDammit; red irish; fastrock; NorthernCrunchyCon; ...
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Add me / Remove me

Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of general interest.

25 posted on 10/02/2013 3:10:07 AM PDT by narses (... unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.)
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To: trebb

Sorry, not at all


26 posted on 10/02/2013 3:33:41 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin
Sorry, not at all

Obviously led a "sheltered life" and didn't habituate any liberal bars in the 70's/80's when they were populated by those who came to hear the guitarist sing songs with "messages".

No real loss - I just use the one phrase about the question/knowing the answer bit because it's convenient at times.

27 posted on 10/02/2013 4:40:04 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: FrdmLvr

Well said, but it will fall on deaf ears.


28 posted on 10/02/2013 7:28:32 AM PDT by verga (Si hoc legere scis, nimium eruditionis)
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To: Kaslin

My daughter and I spend an hour or so a day working on “school”; reading lessons, math work, Bible story and other books. The rest of the day she plays or we do activities that are educational without being school, like shopping trips, cooking lessons, and computer time.

Or I could put her on school bus and send her away all day long, for less learning, no love and personalized attention, and have her unique, fun personality destroyed in order to make her the same as all the other kids. Lose my sword-swinging, gun wielding, crown-wearing princess who likes dancing to hymns and Metallica both? No freaking way.

I get to be the primary influence in her life for a handful of years. Maybe 18 if I’m lucky. I’m not going to waste 12 of those years on government schools.


29 posted on 10/02/2013 7:35:49 AM PDT by JenB
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