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Clinton says Obama needs to call the GOP's 'bluff'
CNN ^ | 29//13 | Ashley Killough

Posted on 09/29/2013 11:42:00 AM PDT by Eleutheria5

Former President Bill Clinton, who sat in the Oval Office during the last government shutdown, supports President Barack Obama's refusal to negotiate with congressional Republicans and argues he should call their "bluff" as the government nears a possible shutdown and default.

"He could stop it, but the price of - the current price of stopping it is higher than the price of letting the Republicans do it and taking their medicine," he said in an interview that aired Sunday on ABC's "This Week."

Clinton went on to say that House Republicans, having realized they have little chance of pushing through legislative items their party wants, have dug in and scrapped any plans of negotiating. "Give us what we want or we're going to shut the government down," Clinton said, describing how he sees the GOP strategy.

"I think under those circumstances, the president has to take the position he's taken," he continued. "Which is 'You - not me - you voted to spend this money.' … You can't negotiate over that. And I think he's right not to."

Obama has repeatedly vowed he won't bargain in the upcoming debt ceiling debate. If the debt ceiling isn't raised by October 17, the government won't be able to pay its bills.

Republicans frequently point to Clinton's tenure, when he negotiated with congressional Republicans over raising the debt ceiling in 1996.

But Clinton argued Sunday that was a different period in time, saying the negotiations then were "extremely minor" and the stakes at the time were not as large: "The economy was growing and the deficit was going down."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 113th; abortion; budget; clinton; deathpanels; nationaldebt; obama; obamacare; shutdown; x42; zerocare
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Related from Huffpost: "Bill Clinton: GOP 'Begging For America To Fail'." Couldn't get the URL, because it made the computer I'm operating on go nuts. But can't Obama shamelessly demagogue on his own?
1 posted on 09/29/2013 11:42:00 AM PDT by Eleutheria5
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To: Eleutheria5

Obama cannot defend his own doing...drags pale face Clinton out to do his bidding, and I cannot remember voting for the Obama care...I do remember voting for the republicans to take control of the house, and stop this spending madness..


2 posted on 09/29/2013 11:46:38 AM PDT by JoanneSD
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To: Eleutheria5

Clinton had a Congress which knew its proper role in setting the laws and budgets for USA.
So, he had to work with Congress, with some good results (to both their credits).

Today, Clinton (and the entire world) sees that Congress has lost its sense of institutional role. That’s a nice way of saying that the R party leadership in the House needs gonadal transplantation. Hopefully, they are not too old to qualify for these missing parts to be provided them by Obamacare.

Maybe that’s why Congress has been so damned complicit and enabling of Obamacare? They hope to get free implants?


3 posted on 09/29/2013 11:49:22 AM PDT by faithhopecharity (Er)
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To: JoanneSD

His defence? The deficit is now growing and the economy shrinking, so therefore, no negotiations.


4 posted on 09/29/2013 11:51:03 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: faithhopecharity

If they didn’t know how to use the pair G-d gave them, what would an implant do for them?


5 posted on 09/29/2013 11:51:54 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Hussein is taking advice from an impeached serial *Perjurer? Doesn’t really change much.


6 posted on 09/29/2013 11:54:05 AM PDT by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: Eleutheria5

The Democrats are really scraping the bottom of the barrel to allow this wrinkled fornicator serve as party spokesman. He is remembered for Monica’s blue dress. Nothing else in his lack-luster presidency was in the least memorable.


7 posted on 09/29/2013 11:54:11 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Eleutheria5

Shouldn’t Bill Clinton be doing what he does best, look up women’s skirts..nah, he goes on CNN to bash Republicans..Obama has had the goods on this guy for years, he owns him


8 posted on 09/29/2013 11:55:18 AM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: JoanneSD

No Bill, you’re behind the eight ball. We’re calling YOUR bluff.


9 posted on 09/29/2013 11:57:11 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Libloather

Not taking advice from. Giving orders to.


10 posted on 09/29/2013 11:57:59 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: txrefugee

Not memorable to you and me, but very adored by the American people!


11 posted on 09/29/2013 11:58:45 AM PDT by Theodore R. (The grand pooh-bahs have spoken: "It's Jebbie's turn!")
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To: Eleutheria5

Bluff? Obama’s the guy issuing all the dire threats.


12 posted on 09/29/2013 11:59:23 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Eleutheria5
Obama need to call the GOP's bluff

on the contrary!!!

13 posted on 09/29/2013 11:59:35 AM PDT by drypowder
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To: Eleutheria5

Oh Bill don’t you have a intern waiting somewhere


14 posted on 09/29/2013 12:01:12 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom ;Sarcasm is my bidness)
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To: Eleutheria5
Remember when former presidents were respectfully silent after they left office?
I think we all knew that would change when the narcissistic band kid in the fat boy jeans left office.
15 posted on 09/29/2013 12:02:53 PM PDT by Amagi (God Save the Republic.)
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To: Eleutheria5
The bottom line is that the people's house has the power of the purse, and nobody else does.

It was designed that way for this specific situation.

16 posted on 09/29/2013 12:03:21 PM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: Eleutheria5

Clinton loves to goad obama into stepping on his...obama falls for it every time.


17 posted on 09/29/2013 12:03:24 PM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: Eleutheria5
After his farcical performance in the WMD debate at the hands of Putin, Assad, Hassan Rouhani and both houses of Congress, having Brazil back out of a White House state dinner, Obama has needed a target who won't fight back.
18 posted on 09/29/2013 12:05:32 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Eleutheria5

19 posted on 09/29/2013 12:07:37 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Eleutheria5

Well come debt ceiling time, the Rs better remember that if it’s raised, 0bama will spend it all and then say Congress approved it. Just don’t approve it.

Just don’t raise it.

Not borrowing even more isn’t failing to pay the bills. It’s choosing not to incur more bills.

Rs need to tie debt ceiling increases to tax increases in their talking points.... ie a debt ceiling increase will require more in taxes to repay it...


20 posted on 09/29/2013 12:09:34 PM PDT by Principled
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To: Eleutheria5
"I'll handle this one for you, Barry. Meanwhile could you get me some coffee?"

"I'll have a mocha latte with whip cream on top in a blue cup.
And don't spill any."

"Does anybody else want coffee?"


21 posted on 09/29/2013 12:10:17 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Eleutheria5; All

22 posted on 09/29/2013 12:11:50 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Eleutheria5

Clinton has strong political instincts. He knows the republicans will cave. Hopefully, zer0bama won’t listen to him.


23 posted on 09/29/2013 12:13:00 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: txrefugee

Oh, I remember him alright-—he raised the price on my patents and made me rent them instead of owning them. But that’s all the memory space I want to devote to the dirtbag.


24 posted on 09/29/2013 12:13:35 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: Eleutheria5

Advice from a lying rapist to an even worse man.


25 posted on 09/29/2013 12:13:59 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Eleutheria5

I though I saw a bit of dig at 0bama by Clinton....notice how he talked of himself..... a lot.


26 posted on 09/29/2013 12:16:14 PM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; All

Obama has found it very easy to advance his narrow ideological agenda of failure-prone Marxism.

4 years after Obama conned his Democrats into passing the Federal takeover of the cash cow of Medical Insurance, the PC, Doormat Republicans are finally timidly suggesting defunding that Federal takeover.

Without the weak, PC, Doormat Republicans Boehner and McConnell being stupidly kept in their respective leadership positions by truly cowardly House and Senate Members, Obama Medical Insurance “Care” Takeover would have been defunded long ago.

The primal yearning of the 47 % who pay no personal Federal Income tax is to belong to a tribe where all of their choices are dictated to them by their arrogant tribal leader.

This a common trait of those who have low self-esteem.

In that sense, Obamanation is truly a cult.

Freedom is defined in the dictionary as follows:
1.) Exemption or liberation from slavery or imprisonment.
3.) Liberty of choice or action.

Most of the 47 % riding in the “free” wagon seek out slavery, and lack of personal choice.

They thus feel safe.

Liberty is defined in the dictionary as follows:
1.) The state of being exempt from the domination of others or from restricting circumstances; freedom.
5.) The power of voluntary choice: freedom from necessity.
6.) Individual Liberty: Freedom from restraint in the performance of rights outside of government control.

Most people who are getting a free ride in the wagon where 47 % pay no personal Federal Income Taxes, are terrified of making a voluntary choice.

The 47 % would prefer that they be under government control where the choices are made for him.

All of this societal wussiness has made it very easy for B. Hussein Obama, aka Barry Soetoro, to advance his narrow ideological agenda of European-style, failure-prone, Marxism in spite of PC, Doormat Republican token “opposition.”

BTW, unlike taxes, Federal Obama ‘care’ Insurance charges can be increased EVERY YEAR to whatever % the present and future arrogant leaders of Obamanation wants.

BTW, BTW, the free-loading 47 % will always vote for the Candidate for POTUS approved by Obamanation.


27 posted on 09/29/2013 12:17:15 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Marxist Obama'care' Insurance violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: jsanders2001

Unfortunately shutting down govt is EXACTLY why Obama and Reid are doing this. They know the media will exaggerate the effects and place all the blame on the GOP and the Tea Party. The result will be that Obama’s last two years will see him in control as much as he was in his first two years. The GOP will be a rump organization and the Tea Party will be able to have its rallies in a MacDonalds. In 2016 Clinton will win 45 states. Why? Because shortsighted conservatives allowed their hatred of all things Obama to keep them from thinking rationally. Obamacare was going to fail miserably. The Right should have let it and gone on to win in 14 and 16. What could the GOP have done? Boehner and Cantor should have gone to SCOTUS the moment Barky suspended the employer mandate. As leaders of the House they had legal standing to ask the Court to declare Barky’s action as deliberately not carrying out laws passed by Congress and unilaterally acting as his own legislative branch. They would have won, embarrassed Barky and shown the catastrophic effects the employer mandate would have. Instead they chose shut down. They are, in the words of Jeremiah Wright, stuck on stupid!!


28 posted on 09/29/2013 12:24:09 PM PDT by xkaydet65 (.You have never tasted freedom, else you would know it is purchased not with gold but with steel)
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To: Kevmo

Either that or Clinton wants to trip up Obama. Revenge is a plate best served cold.


29 posted on 09/29/2013 12:32:51 PM PDT by GilGil
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To: Eleutheria5

Yes, but it appears that maybe G-d forgot to include those parts when He made Boehner (an ironic name, since he apparently lacks the necessary equipment to have one)
and his pals

you know, like sometimes a car comes off the assembly line missing a few pieces?


30 posted on 09/29/2013 12:34:15 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (Er)
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To: xkaydet65

Now that we know what will not work, what is your solution and how do you know it will work?


31 posted on 09/29/2013 12:34:54 PM PDT by GilGil
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To: Eleutheria5

Obama gonna rely on advice from BJ Clinton? Like the Clintons have Obama’s best interest in mind...


32 posted on 09/29/2013 12:37:25 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: GilGil

maybe nobama could “use” some of his “buddies” in the white house like klinton did with monica if there is a shutdown...he would really like that


33 posted on 09/29/2013 12:39:41 PM PDT by ldish (Have had enough...you??????)
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To: Eleutheria5

Clinton has been out of office for TWELVE YEARS!! If only his ego would let him step aside and STFU.


34 posted on 09/29/2013 12:39:54 PM PDT by EDINVA (/1)
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To: Eleutheria5
So BillyBob wants Osama to have the same sublime shutdown experience *he* had? Working late,ordering out for pizza,getting an occasional “smooch” from a grateful fat girl (of course it would be a skinny,buffed *boy* today).
35 posted on 09/29/2013 12:41:36 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Osama Obama Care: A Religion That Will Have You On Your Knees!)
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To: Eleutheria5

Do America a favor and shut the police state down. Give America something they’ll remember AFTER they soon realize they HATE 0bamacare. May America’s celebrities see their health records (including record of their STD’s) splattered all over social media! THIS IS WHY CONGRESS IS EXEMPT FROM IT!


36 posted on 09/29/2013 12:43:08 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (If Americans were as concerned for their country as Egyptians are, Obama would be ousted!)
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To: GilGil

If Obama takes Clintoon’s advice, the Bent One can take credit for it. If not, he can say, “I told you so” and toot Hildabeast’s horn, claiming she would have done it his way.

He wins either way. He’s in the catbird seat.


37 posted on 09/29/2013 12:51:03 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Eleutheria5
It's a miracle The Rapist hasn't contracted that antibiotic-resistant gonorrhea superbug yet.
38 posted on 09/29/2013 12:51:38 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (When your policy is to rob Peter to pay Paul, you can count on enthusiastic support from Paul.)
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To: Eleutheria5

BJ needs to shut up and go away.


39 posted on 09/29/2013 12:59:23 PM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Clinton needs to be in jail


40 posted on 09/29/2013 1:48:14 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (What you get when you refuse to vet)
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To: al baby

“Oh Bill don’t you have a intern waiting somewhere?”

From what I have been told, “Billy Jeff” is inop. Seems that when he had his heart bypass surgery they took the needed veins from “a location other than his legs”


41 posted on 09/29/2013 1:55:35 PM PDT by vette6387 (i)
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To: GilGil

Boehner has to let Obamacare fail on its own. It will. But if it succeeds, then the Dems were right and we were wrong. If we’re doing this because we’re actually afraid it will work and the country will be satisfied then the Dems who accuse us of ideology before country would be right. Let it clearly fail and let them defend the failure. Then we can claim it’s they who put ideology before all.


42 posted on 09/29/2013 1:56:11 PM PDT by xkaydet65 (.You have never tasted freedom, else you would know it is purchased not with gold but with steel)
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To: Eleutheria5

The American people do not see this as a game.


43 posted on 09/29/2013 2:01:48 PM PDT by mom.mom
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To: Eleutheria5
Hey, Cantor. Don't call my bluff!


44 posted on 09/29/2013 2:02:32 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Eleutheria5
We need more Obama cheerleaders. Hey Uncle Bill, I got a great cheer for Monica. Here it goes.

No government

Is better then

This government !

Yeah Team !

45 posted on 09/29/2013 2:08:58 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The username is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: Kevmo
Clinton has strong political instincts.

But Clinton did not factor in Ted Cruz. If he had, his advice should have been to negotiate a deal.

46 posted on 09/29/2013 2:13:04 PM PDT by Kennard
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But Clinton did not factor in Ted Cruz.
***I think he did, and that’s how he ended up in the catbird seat.


47 posted on 09/29/2013 2:18:49 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Eleutheria5

Doesn’t he have a cigar to ruin somewhere?


48 posted on 09/29/2013 2:21:27 PM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: xkaydet65

The problem with that GOPe strategy is that regardless of how it doesn’t work or how much it costs, the dems are making sure their base is covered well enough and cheaply enough to like the further nobamacare free-ride and will keep voting D.

There are too many IFs in that ploy that if backfiring will irrevocably turn us socialist.


49 posted on 09/29/2013 2:43:14 PM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Hold it men-he’s not bluffing!

Listen to him men, he’s just crazy enough to do it!


50 posted on 09/29/2013 4:07:06 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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