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DOD Issues Detailed Shutdown Guidance
politico.com ^ | 9/27/13 | KATE BRANNEN

Posted on 09/29/2013 12:31:39 PM PDT by BarnacleCenturion

American troops would continue fighting in Afghanistan if the government shut down next week, the Defense Department said Friday — but if any were killed, the Pentagon could not pay out their death gratuities until the government reopened.

That is just one ugly reality of the government shutdown for which DoD has been preparing, Pentagon Comptroller Bob Hale said.

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The Pentagon has also decided to exempt funerals and dignified transfers of remains from a shutdown if one happens, he said — so if troops were killed during a shutdown, the Air Force could fly them to Dover Air Force Base, Del., and hand over their remains to their families.

All other activities need to be shut down in an “orderly and deliberate fashion,” including temporary duty travel, with a few exceptions.

Members of the military will continue to report to work, regardless of whether their job is affiliated with an exempted activity.

However, military personnel would not be paid until Congress makes the necessary funds available. The same is true for civilian employees who are required to work through the shutdown: the law requires them to be paid, just not necessarily on time.

For those civilian employees who are not required to work during a shutdown, their pay is not guaranteed. They would be furloughed, Carter wrote, placed in a “non-work, no-pay status.”

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: governmentshutdown; obama; shutdown

1 posted on 09/29/2013 12:31:39 PM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Targeted, limited time of duration Legislation can fix anything the Administration threatens the military with.


2 posted on 09/29/2013 12:33:26 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Shame on the Politico for this piece.


3 posted on 09/29/2013 12:34:19 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: BarnacleCenturion

This sucks the big wazoo. We are just trying to do our jobs, but we’re held hostage to Congress’s inability todo their job.


4 posted on 09/29/2013 12:36:15 PM PDT by 22202NOVA (DoD civilian, retired Army. Furlough...the new "F" word.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

This government had no problem with paying Nadil Hasan over a quarter of a million dollars after he went on an Islamic jihadist rampage killing over a dozen men, women, and children, and injuring dozens more.

FUBO


5 posted on 09/29/2013 12:39:27 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

What is the current betting pool on how many days into the “shutdown” Obambi is seen on a golf course or hosting another White House Party for Hollyweirdos.


6 posted on 09/29/2013 12:40:26 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

It sounds like we need to watch out for an attack on our “his” military, for retaliation for not getting his way.


7 posted on 09/29/2013 12:42:48 PM PDT by Truth2012
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To: a fool in paradise

But Hussein wouldn’t stop sending money to his Muslim Brotherhood all over the world.


8 posted on 09/29/2013 12:44:29 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: a fool in paradise

I give him until 5 Oct so he can get lost in the Friday afternoon news blands and stay lost for weekend.


9 posted on 09/29/2013 12:47:26 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Marcella

Should have shut down this government long ago.


10 posted on 09/29/2013 12:48:06 PM PDT by huldah1776
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>> but if any were killed,

Didn’t think any died under Obama’s imperious leadership.


11 posted on 09/29/2013 12:50:58 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
American troops would continue fighting in Afghanistan if the government shut down next week, the Defense Department said Friday ...

We gave up on fighting in Afghanistan about 5 years ago, though an argument could be made we gave up long before that.

12 posted on 09/29/2013 12:54:08 PM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Does anybody recall seeing the similar article about the orderly shutdown of EBT Cards?


13 posted on 09/29/2013 1:03:13 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: 22202NOVA
This sucks the big wazoo. We are just trying to do our jobs, but we’re held hostage to Congress’s inability todo their job.

You won't get far with that specious argument around HERE.

Tell the Democrat-controlled Senate to do their Gaw-damn job.

Then tell Obama not to veto funding the government.

14 posted on 09/29/2013 1:08:46 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

EBT cards are given by the state.


15 posted on 09/29/2013 1:12:45 PM PDT by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the Country!)
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To: 22202NOVA

Laz is correct. The House passed a spending bill. But the Dem- and Rino-controlled Senate refused to consent.


16 posted on 09/29/2013 1:13:46 PM PDT by ReaganGeneration2
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To: Lazamataz

YOU tell them, Laz. I’ve done my part.


17 posted on 09/29/2013 1:44:05 PM PDT by 22202NOVA (DoD civilian, retired Army. Furlough...the new "F" word.)
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To: 22202NOVA
I've been. But, of course, the Enemy Media will portray it as Republican's Fault.

Just mentioning, make sure to pin the blame where it really belongs.

18 posted on 09/29/2013 1:49:59 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: a fool in paradise

You write, “This government had no problem with paying Nadil Hasan over a quarter of a million dollars after he went on an Islamic jihadist rampage....”

This I hadn’t heard. Obviously the government spent money on his medical care and provided him with a defense lawyer. That’s just SOP for anyone accused of a crime. Is that how you’re counting the quarter million, or is there something else? I’m not very knowledgeable about his case so I’d be grateful for any information.


19 posted on 09/29/2013 1:55:09 PM PDT by Eagle Forgotten
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Complete and utter nonsense. Our service members should be fully paid no matter what. Defense of the nation is priority one for the federal government. Pay for ALL non-essential federal employees and expenses must be cut or halted first, and that would obviously include anyone or anything connected to obamacare, the EPA, Education, Health, Housing, Welfare, Energy, Agriculture, Commerce, DEA, etc, etc, etc. Even pay and expenses for the elected officials and their bloated staffs should be halted or cut before any service member!! Do your jobs to defend the constitution or get OUT!!


20 posted on 09/29/2013 1:57:38 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

The question to be asked is: “If it is in the Nation’s best interest to shut down the Government, then why are there only TWO Federal Politicians, Obama and Reid, loudly advocating shutting down the US Federal Government?

Obama has MANY reasons to shutdown the Federal Government such as:

1.) A headline grabbing story that will distract attention from the Impeachable scandals of:

Benghazi Massacre Dereliction of Duty by Obama as CIC;
Obamacare Insurance managed by the corrupt IRS;
IRS harassment of political opponents of Obama;
Use of the NSA by Obama to spy on everybody in the USA;
etc, etc.

2.) The use of fear of a shutdown might help to protect defunding and eventual abolishment of Obama’s narrowly focucused ideological agenda of an European-style, failure-prone, Marxist, monopoly of the US Medical Insurance Industry.

3.) Spreading fear and blame might also preserve Obama’s power to increase Obamacare Insurance premiums on an annual basis.

*This would be highly advantageous to Obama as the increase in mandatory insurance premiums would not be a tax, as the “unexpected market conditions” would be given as the reason for the increase.

*Also there would be no need to ask for the “Advice and Consent” of Congress, as the IRS would be in complete control of all income and medical records.

4.) The last reason is the most important for Obama, personally: America would at last no longer be a Nation where the Liberty to choose ones own family destiny could ever exist again.

As for Reid, the best guess I have is that he wants a Government Monopoly of the Medical Insurance Industry. Well, to be fair, Reid calls for a “single payer” system.

My guess is that multi-millionaire Reid, nearing Federal retirement, owns a lot of stock in some companies that are tied to a “single payer” system.

Maybe the NSA, or the IRS can find out for us?

I’m going to as my US Senator from TEXAS, The Esteemed Senator John “To Hell with my voters” Cornyn to check on this for me - - - .


21 posted on 09/29/2013 2:08:04 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Marxist Obama'care' Insurance violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Noise, static and hysteria.

Pablum for the weak minded.


22 posted on 09/29/2013 2:19:11 PM PDT by Farnsworth ("The people have always some champion whom they set over them and nurse into greatness...This and no)
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To: Lazamataz

“This sucks the big wazoo. We are just trying to do our jobs, but we’re held hostage to Congress’s inability todo their job.”

I noticed that also.


23 posted on 09/29/2013 3:18:31 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Make today a great day. Insult a liberal.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
Washington DC city workers are sitting pretty. By vote of the city council, all city workers have been declared "essential" so they can still be paid! Isn't that nice?
24 posted on 09/29/2013 3:26:15 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

They’re not going to pay the military their salaries, but you can bet that EPA will be considered an “essential” function.


25 posted on 09/29/2013 4:04:31 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
Defiant House Delays Obamacare; Government Shutdown Looms
CNN ^ | September 29, 2013 | Tom Cohen and Holly Yan
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"Meanwhile, a bill to guarantee pay for military personnel during any shutdown passed 423-0."


26 posted on 09/29/2013 4:11:07 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: RKBA Democrat

Didn’t the House pass a bill 423-0 completely funding the military?


27 posted on 09/29/2013 4:14:45 PM PDT by ez (Muslims do not play well with others.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
As I said on another thread and I'll repeat it here.
What ever happened to the old saying “ the buck stops with the President “ ?????

If he does not sign the bill to allow the government to keep running then it is he who is the one who shuts down the government... plain and simple.


28 posted on 09/29/2013 6:10:51 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Another article:

Government rolls out shutdown plans

http://money.cnn.com/2013/09/27/news/economy/shutdown-plans/index.html?hpt=hp_bn3


29 posted on 09/29/2013 7:01:06 PM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
And yet there will continue to be funds for the terrorists:

30 posted on 09/29/2013 7:37:20 PM PDT by Lucky9teen ("The only thing worse than a knee-jerk liberal is a knee-pad conservative." ~ Edward Abbey)
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To: Eagle Forgotten

Nadil Hasan drew his salary for YEARS.


31 posted on 09/29/2013 7:51:50 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Eagle Forgotten

Video: Fort Hood shooter, Nidal Hasan still drawing salary – $278,000 and counting
Hotair ^ | 05/21/2013 | Ed Morrissey

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3022180/posts


32 posted on 09/29/2013 7:56:24 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: 22202NOVA

then quit....


33 posted on 09/29/2013 9:56:45 PM PDT by cherry (.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

First of all, I would not serve in the military today. Second, if I did I’d go to Canada if I wasn’t getting paid. If I was in Afghanistan I’d do everything I could NOT to engage the enemy.


34 posted on 09/29/2013 10:28:19 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: BarnacleCenturion

but Obama will be able to fly his dog around.


35 posted on 09/30/2013 3:30:43 AM PDT by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
When are the Republicans going to say "we've had it with being bullied"? They passed the budget for the Department of Defense. Stand together and refuse to pass anything else until the Senate 'pubs stop traitoring us and pass it.

The Senate 'pubs who traitor us are worse than Obama. Their appeasement attitude is the reason Obama gets away with never having to negotiate.

36 posted on 09/30/2013 3:35:16 AM PDT by grania
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To: BarnacleCenturion
The House and Senate already said they would sign appropriations for the military so if Obama doesn't sign then they should blame him.
37 posted on 09/30/2013 8:46:18 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: cherry

No.


38 posted on 10/02/2013 12:31:02 PM PDT by 22202NOVA ("Democracy is the art of running the circus from the monkey cage." -- H.L. Mencken)
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