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Conservatives fear another split Republican vote, with path for Christie win
The Washington Times ^ | 30 September 2013 | Ralph Z. Hallow

Posted on 09/30/2013 5:12:58 AM PDT by COBOL2Java


If New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie has any chance of securing the Republican presidential nomination, he just might have to thank such darlings of the tea party movement as Rand Paul and Ted Cruz for an unlikely path to victory.

As Mr. Paul’s and Mr. Cruz’s recent filibusters on the Senate floor have shown, the 2016 quest for the White House is well underway. A fierce battle among the new small-government, libertarian stars is already raging.

That has left a growing number of conservative activists voicing concerns publicly about a scenario that would let a moderate Republican like Mr. Christie slip through the cracks of a movement divided between such strong conservative personalities as Mr. Paul, Mr. Cruz and Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker.

“It seems like a broken record every four years: a number of conservatives run against one or two ‘moderates’ — apparently there’s no such thing as a liberal Republican — the conservatives cancel each other, and the ‘moderate’ ekes out a primary win,” lamented Media Research Center President L. Brent Bozell.

Pollsters see the same scenario in 2016 based on current data.

“The pattern in recent cycles suggests that the GOP will ultimately settle on a more ‘establishment’ candidate as a result of a continued split among conservatives,” pollster and campaign strategist Matt Towery said.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Kentucky; US: New Jersey; US: Texas; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: barbarabuono; chrischristie; christie; fff; finos; kentucky; newjersey; nonsense; scottwalker; tedcruz; texas; wisconsin
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1 posted on 09/30/2013 5:12:58 AM PDT by COBOL2Java
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To: COBOL2Java

We didn't split the vote !

Karl Rove and RHINOS did it !!

2 posted on 09/30/2013 5:15:15 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: COBOL2Java

For the GOP to run another RINO would be the third strike.


3 posted on 09/30/2013 5:15:33 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2
For the GOP to run another RINO would be the third strike.

I thought Romney was the third strike?

Dole
McCain
Romney

4 posted on 09/30/2013 5:17:03 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: COBOL2Java

The Washington Times is full of doggy doo...


5 posted on 09/30/2013 5:17:14 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood ("Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???")
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To: COBOL2Java
There is a significant difference between Conservatives and Rhinos (Demorcrat LITE ) !!
6 posted on 09/30/2013 5:18:13 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: COBOL2Java; All

MAKE DC LISTEN: TELL YOUR SENATORS !

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AK Mark Begich D (202) 224-3004
AK Lisa Murkowski R (202) 224-6665
AL Jeff Sessions R (202) 224-4124
AL Richard C. Shelby R (202) 224-5744
AR John Boozman R (202) 224-4843
AR Mark L. Pryor D (202) 224-2353
AZ Jeff Flake R (202) 224-4521
AZ John McCain R (202) 224-2235
CA Barbara Boxer D (202) 224-3553
CA Dianne Feinstein D (202) 224-3841
CO Michael F. Bennet D (202) 224-5852
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CT Richard Blumenthal D (202) 224-2823
CT Christopher Murphy D (202) 224-4041
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GA Johnny Isakson R (202) 224-3643
HI Mazie K. Hirono D (202) 224-6361
HI Brian Schatz D (202) 224-3934
IA Chuck Grassley R (202) 224-3744
IA Tom Harkin D (202) 224-3254
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IL Richard J. Durbin D (202) 224-2152
IL Mark Kirk R (202) 224-2854
IN Daniel Coats R (202) 224-5623
IN Joe Donnelly D (202) 224-4814
KS Jerry Moran R (202) 224-6521
KS Pat Roberts R (202) 224-4774
KY Mitch McConnell R (202) 224-2541
KY Rand Paul R (202) 224-4343
LA Mary L. Landrieu D (202) 224-5824
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MA Edward Markey D (202) 224-2742
MA Elizabeth Warren D (202) 224-4543
MD Benjamin L. Cardin D (202) 224-4524
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ME Susan M. Collins R (202) 224-2523
ME Angus S. King I (202) 224-5344
MI Carl Levin D (202) 224-6221
MI Debbie Stabenow D (202) 224-4822
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MN Amy Klobuchar D (202) 224-3244
MO Roy Blunt R (202) 224-5721
MO Claire McCaskill D (202) 224-6154
MS Thad Cochran R (202) 224-5054
MS Roger F. Wicker R (202) 224-6253
MT Max Baucus D (202) 224-2651
MT Jon Tester D (202) 224-2644
NC Richard Burr R (202) 224-3154
NC Kay R. Hagan D (202) 224-6342
ND Heidi Heitkamp D (202) 224-2043
ND John Hoeven R (202) 224-2551
NE Deb Fischer R (202) 224-6551
NE Mike Johanns R (202) 224-4224
NH Kelly Ayotte R (202) 224-3324
NH Jeanne Shaheen D (202) 224-2841
NJ Jeff Chiesa R (202) 224-3224
NJ Robert Menendez D (202) 224-4744
NM Martin Heinrich D (202) 224-5521
NM Tom Udall D (202) 224-6621
NV Dean Heller R (202) 224-6244
NV Harry Reid D (202) 224-3542
NY Kirsten E. Gillibrand D (202) 224-4451
NY Charles E. Schumer D (202) 224-6542
OH Sherrod Brown D (202) 224-2315
OH Rob Portman R (202) 224-3353
OK Tom Coburn R (202) 224-5754
OK James M. Inhofe R (202) 224-4721
OR Jeff Merkley D (202) 224-3753
OR Ron Wyden D (202) 224-5244
PA Robert P. Casey D (202) 224-6324
PA Patrick J. Toomey R (202) 224-4254
RI Jack Reed D (202) 224-4642
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SC Lindsey Graham R (202) 224-5972
SC Tim Scott R (202) 224-6121
SD Tim Johnson D (202) 224-5842
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TN Lamar Alexander R (202) 224-4944
TN Bob Corker R (202) 224-3344
TX John Cornyn R (202) 224-2934
UT Orrin G. Hatch R (202) 224-5251
UT Mike Lee R (202) 224-5444
VA Tim Kaine D (202) 224-4024
VA Mark R. Warner D (202) 224-2023
VT Patrick J. Leahy D (202) 224-4242
VT Bernard Sanders I (202) 224-5141
WA Maria Cantwell D (202) 224-3441
WA Patty Murray D (202) 224-2621
WI Tammy Baldwin D (202) 224-5653
WI Ron Johnson R (202) 224-5323
WV Joe Manchin D (202) 224-3954
WV John D. Rockefeller D (202) 224-6472
WY John Barrasso R (202) 224-6441
WY Michael B. Enzi R (202) 224-3424

Now that we have your attention, you sorry US Senators, keep in mind that we will replace you with those who will gladly correct your errors - - - .

So, scrub and clean by 2014 !

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Lamar Alexander (R-TN)
John Cornyn (R-TX)
Kelly Ayotte (R-NH)
Lindsey Graham (R-SC)
John Barrasso (R-WY)

John Hoeven (R-ND)
Roy Blunt (R-MO)
Johnny Isakson (R-GA)
John Boozman (R-AR)
Mike Johanns (R-NE)

Richard Burr (R-NC)
Ron Johnson (R-WI)
Saxby Chambliss (R-GA)
Mark Kirk (R-IL)
Jeff Chiesa (R-NJ)

John McCain (R-AZ)
Dan Coats (R-IN)
Mitch McConnell (R-KY)
Tom Coburn (R-OK)
Lisa Murkowksi (R-AK)

Thad Cochran (R-MS)
John Thune (R-SD)
Susan Collins (R-ME)
Roger Wicker (R-MS)
Bob Corker (R-TN)

Not Voting:
Orrin Hatch (R-UT)
Jeff Flake (R-AZ)


7 posted on 09/30/2013 5:18:46 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Marxist Obama'care' Insurance violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
The Washington Times is full of doggy doo...

LOL! Did you even read the analysis? Your knee-jerk response kind of tells me you didn't. I know it's long, but you ought to give it a try.

8 posted on 09/30/2013 5:18:56 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: COBOL2Java

So many flaws here:
A: way too early to worry about this...the 16 elections will not take shape until the 14s are over and we see what the 15-16 congress looks like and what they do, or don’t do.
B: Jeb will split the Christie vote.
C: As of now, Cruz would not be challenged by anyone else....Paul wouldn’t be a blip. Things may change of course....


9 posted on 09/30/2013 5:18:57 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: COBOL2Java

If you run that fat liberal bastard there will not be enough of you republicans voting to come close to beating the dim. YOU gop/e HAVE BEEN WARNED!


10 posted on 09/30/2013 5:20:52 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: COBOL2Java

I would vote for a can of orange juice before I voted for Christie. Although I said the same thing about Romney. So I am known to fold.


11 posted on 09/30/2013 5:25:51 AM PDT by nhwingut (This tagline is for lease)
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To: COBOL2Java
W got on base, and the GOPe went to the bench for a new batter with the same strategery as had been used before.

One could argue that Romney was a subtle difference in strategery in that he had been a State Governator rather than a (non-executive) Senator.

I think the GOPe strategery has been to increasingly ignore the "base" and now that that has become obvious, they are now between the strong lee shore wind and a rock.

12 posted on 09/30/2013 5:27:01 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

But we let them lead us along, and this time it looks like we may be back to doing it to ourselves again.

What are we going to do to keep it from happening in 2016?

I know what I think we ought to do: have a complete tea party national convention to settle on an endorsed candidate before the primaries even begin.


13 posted on 09/30/2013 5:27:04 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: COBOL2Java

I’m not voting for Christie...

I am banned at Washington Times... they are full of crap...


14 posted on 09/30/2013 5:28:37 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood ("Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???")
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To: COBOL2Java

No more, we’ve have Obama for 8 years after holding my nose and voting. I will not vote again holding my nose.


15 posted on 09/30/2013 5:31:22 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; Impy; COBOL2Java
RE :”If New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie has any chance of securing the Republican presidential nomination, he just might have to thank such darlings of the tea party movement as Rand Paul and Ted Cruz for an unlikely path to victory. ..A fierce battle among the new small-government, libertarian stars is already raging. .”

I recall Newt, Rick, Bachmann, Cain, etc all beating up on each other letting Romney off the hook, until real late when most were eliminated.

16 posted on 09/30/2013 5:32:52 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

lil Jebbie and Christie splitting the RINO vote....thats easy to see and I agree. I think the no is Cruz’s for the taking...and of course Paul wont have a chance..but may run as a third party.

To his credit Paul has a great network and has a solid following. This will get interesting.


17 posted on 09/30/2013 5:34:26 AM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
I am banned at Washington Times...

Not sure what that means. It's a public URL, anyone can click and open it. Unless you've got one of those CIA implants in your teeth?

18 posted on 09/30/2013 5:35:06 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: COBOL2Java

You forgot the Bush 1 and 2.


19 posted on 09/30/2013 5:36:07 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: Irenic
we've have
20 posted on 09/30/2013 5:36:46 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: LibLieSlayer

He will NEVER get my vote.

Its unfair to call Christie a “RINO”. RINOs have a core political philosophy - one I disagree with, but a core political philosophy nevertheless.

To look for a core political philosophy in Chris Christie, you need to look to Julies Caesar or Octavian. Its all about Christie and personal power. He will do anything to get it.


21 posted on 09/30/2013 5:37:10 AM PDT by ZULU (Impeach that Bastard Barrack Hussein Obama)
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To: rrrod

True, but Paul has little room to grow outside of his already established network. Anyone who might like Paul already does. Frankly, while I like him and would vote for him over any D any day of the week, I am not impressed with his intelligence and he’s shown a propensity to make a great statement and then get scared into backing down a day or two later.


22 posted on 09/30/2013 5:38:26 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: rrrod

True, but Paul has little room to grow outside of his already established network. Anyone who might like Paul already does. Frankly, while I like him and would vote for him over any D any day of the week, I am not impressed with his intelligence and he’s shown a propensity to make a great statement and then get scared into backing down a day or two later.


23 posted on 09/30/2013 5:38:38 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: COBOL2Java

I refuse to patronize any place that allows leftists to run amok but banishes right wingers like me for challenging them...

W.T. is just another RINO circular firing squad.

You can keep it... please do post what you can here though, I won’t go there.


24 posted on 09/30/2013 5:38:42 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood ("Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???")
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To: Paladin2

Ignoring the base by the GOPe has proven to be a failed policy but they keep trying. I saw a Republican strategist on Fox going on and on about the IMPORTANT people Christie is meeting with..............not one word about the base!

Let’s see how this all works out...usually folks from good ol fly over country wouldnt have anything to do with a NE liberal.


25 posted on 09/30/2013 5:40:44 AM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: rrrod
I'm afraid that the GOPe is alienating the base on purpose -- all the better to elect the D candidate while appearing to put up a fight.

I will not vote for Christie. Period.

26 posted on 09/30/2013 5:43:05 AM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12----No king but Christ! Don't tread on me!)
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To: COBOL2Java

“No thanks” to Jabba the RINO.


27 posted on 09/30/2013 5:43:16 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Graewoulf

BTTT!


28 posted on 09/30/2013 5:43:37 AM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: COBOL2Java

But you have to admit, the Washington Times IS full of doggy doo...


29 posted on 09/30/2013 5:45:38 AM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos...)
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To: Graewoulf
US SENATE GOP DEAD WEIGHT LIST LOYAL TO OBAMA

Lamar Alexander (R-TN)

BEAT LAMAR and Tea Party Groups Announce Endorsement of Joe Carr for US Senate

30 posted on 09/30/2013 5:46:29 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: nhwingut

I’m in the same boat as you, maybe worse, since I once said I would vote for a burning bag of dog crap before I’d vote for Romney...


31 posted on 09/30/2013 5:47:30 AM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos...)
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To: COBOL2Java

My opinion of Chris Christie can be summed up as follows: I would not perpendicularly traverse a linearly aligned conveyance route to micturate upon him were I to ascertain that he was rapidly combining with oxygen.


32 posted on 09/30/2013 5:50:01 AM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos...)
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To: COBOL2Java

Pure garbage article, a Leftist wet dream.

A Christie vote would end the GOP totally.


33 posted on 09/30/2013 5:50:17 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: 9YearLurker
know what I think we ought to do: have a complete tea party national convention to settle on an endorsed candidate before the primaries even begin.

YEP

34 posted on 09/30/2013 5:51:25 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: COBOL2Java
I once liked Christie for his no nonsense dealing with the press, but he is just another typical RINO from the North East. I will not vote for him if he's the nominee.
35 posted on 09/30/2013 5:53:48 AM PDT by Farnsworth ("The people have always some champion whom they set over them and nurse into greatness...This and no)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

I sent the RNC a few emails concerning Christie and lil Jebbie.....those two jerks shouldnt even be at the convention!


36 posted on 09/30/2013 5:54:35 AM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: Texas Fossil

yes it would


37 posted on 09/30/2013 5:54:46 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Texas Fossil

It’s over for the GOP e. they have no power

Christie does well in jersey and BO

it didnt work last yr won’t work now


38 posted on 09/30/2013 5:56:06 AM PDT by stanne
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To: COBOL2Java

Meanwhile, on yesterday’s CBS Sunday Morning, they did a whole puff piece on Christie.

For the most part, they made Christie sound like the best thing since sliced bread, except when the reporter-ette asked him, “Are you a bully?”

Of course, they always ask the democrats that same question when they interview THEM. (I don’t need a “sarc” tag, do I?)


39 posted on 09/30/2013 5:57:03 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (The Second Amendment makes all the other amendments possible)
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To: GeronL

WE CAN CONCENTRATE ON THE DOWN RACES! I’M TALKIN BOUT THE SENATE. That’s 2 cycles. We could roll her thighness should she win-fun to watch.


40 posted on 09/30/2013 5:57:29 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: Graewoulf

what is this!!??
an enemy of the State list??


41 posted on 09/30/2013 6:05:04 AM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: COBOL2Java

How many strikes does it take of running Liberals? GHW Bush, Dole, GW Bush, McInsane, & Romney weren’t enough? Dole cured me of ever again voting for Liberals. The media is going into high speed getting their Liberal choice as the GOP Nod looks like.


42 posted on 09/30/2013 6:06:05 AM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: COBOL2Java

Screw Christie


43 posted on 09/30/2013 6:09:41 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: COBOL2Java

Cruz shouldn’t be underestimated. He is far better than any candidate that ran in the GOP primaries in 2014, which was marked by a laundry list of flawed individuals. He will rapidly rise to the top in 2016. The MSM is his only viable opponent.


44 posted on 09/30/2013 6:16:49 AM PDT by BlueStateRightist
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To: kimtom

Nope.

The “State” is the enemy of the people.

Well, except for the 47 % who are in the wagon being pulled by the 53 % who DO pay their Personal Federal Income Taxes.

BTW, are YOU TAXED ENOUGH ALREADY?


45 posted on 09/30/2013 6:17:58 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Marxist Obama'care' Insurance violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: BlueStateRightist

Ted Cruz put himself at the top of the list

The question is can he stay there until 2016??


46 posted on 09/30/2013 6:18:07 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: COBOL2Java

I will not vote for that fat Bastard.


47 posted on 09/30/2013 6:20:05 AM PDT by Venturer ( cowardice posturing as tolerance =political correctness)
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To: COBOL2Java

I will not vote for Christie the Whale if the party foists him upon us. Not that my vote will matter. If we run a GOPe RINO in 2016, Hillary will win handily.


48 posted on 09/30/2013 6:21:16 AM PDT by jboot (It can happen here because it IS happening here.)
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To: ZULU

Just like mcnasty.


49 posted on 09/30/2013 6:29:44 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: Graewoulf

We are over taxed, enough!!!
only because of the wealth of the people (as compared to 1776 crowd) and our “conditioning” do we put up with it.


50 posted on 09/30/2013 6:32:40 AM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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