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Police: Estranged daughter kills mother before being killed by her father
CNN Politics ^ | September 30, 2013 5:32 PM | Laura Ly

Posted on 09/30/2013 9:10:38 AM PDT by Hojczyk

Edited on 09/30/2013 9:21:09 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Josephine Ruckinger had been estranged from family members for about 20 years.

She burst back into their lives briefly with deadly consequences.

Ruckinger and her husband, Jeffrey, both 43, broke into an Ashville, Pennsylvania, home, where they shot and killed her mother and brother, before being killed by Ruckinger's father, according to Pennsylvania State Police.


(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: crime

1 posted on 09/30/2013 9:10:38 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

The only type of person I can think of that would do that sort of thing is one who fell into society’s underworld.


2 posted on 09/30/2013 9:13:28 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Hojczyk

I read this earlier this morning and thought it was one of the most horrible things I’ve ever heard of. What a tragedy for the father. He’s got to bury his whole family. What a terrible shame.


3 posted on 09/30/2013 9:14:49 AM PDT by pgkdan
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To: Hojczyk

Another badly written story. It appears that 5 people were on the scene and that 4 of them were killed, but you have to sort of tease that out of the story.


4 posted on 09/30/2013 9:16:45 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (21st century. I'm not a fan.)
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To: Hojczyk

Look for this to become a Lifetime Movie of the Week by St. Patty’s Day.


5 posted on 09/30/2013 9:18:49 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Hojczyk

Good grief!


6 posted on 09/30/2013 9:20:28 AM PDT by basil (2ASisters.org)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

That’s St. “Paddy”, not “Patty”.

As in “paddy wagon”.


7 posted on 09/30/2013 9:20:29 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: pgkdan

No. He may choose to bury his daughter, but he doesn’t have to.

The tragety is that he has to bury his wife and son. The perps, well it would be proper if they were hung out for the buzzards, but for his own self respect he may not do that.


8 posted on 09/30/2013 9:21:46 AM PDT by donmeaker (Youth is wasted on the young.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Yes, first thing I thought of was “here come the screen writers”.


9 posted on 09/30/2013 9:22:42 AM PDT by Lockbar (Quality Factory Loaded Ammunition ----- The New Gold!)
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To: Jonty30

My first thought would be mental illness but the fact that the husband was involved leads me toward drugs and or money.


10 posted on 09/30/2013 9:25:44 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Hojczyk

Why did they become estranged?

One has to wonder?

1. Could be the daughter was pissed off that the mommy and daddy didn’t give her any mone even though she was an adult...

2. Could be she was abused by one parent and blamed both parents one for abusing her and the other for not saying anything...

But probably in this day and age scenatio number 1 is far far more likely as people think they are always “owed” something....


11 posted on 09/30/2013 9:27:14 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: cripplecreek

Kill mom, dad and brother leaves you being the sole heir to the family finances. They figured they would go in, do the deed,burn the house then sit back, cry victim and collect inheritance.


12 posted on 09/30/2013 9:29:09 AM PDT by eastforker (Cruz for steam in 2016)
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To: DuncanWaring

Saint Padrick?


13 posted on 09/30/2013 9:30:56 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: pgkdan

Amen.


14 posted on 09/30/2013 9:30:59 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Lancey Howard

Nope.

St. Patrick.

The short form of Patrick is Paddy.


15 posted on 09/30/2013 9:36:28 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Hojczyk

Read some of the inane comments from a gun grabber after article.


16 posted on 09/30/2013 9:37:15 AM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished.)
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To: Lancey Howard

St Padraig (gaelic spelling)


17 posted on 09/30/2013 9:37:44 AM PDT by Gumdrop
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To: DuncanWaring

Yeah, Paddy is short for Patrick. Patty isn’t. But Pat also is.


18 posted on 09/30/2013 9:39:02 AM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished.)
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To: eastforker
Kill mom, dad and brother leaves you being the sole heir to the family finances.

Her grievance could have been with the father and mother, but with the brother as well? That strains credulity. Daughter and her husband were on a mission to commit a capital crime, no matter what justification may have been in their minds. Father's actions, it appears to me, were classic self-defense.

19 posted on 09/30/2013 9:43:37 AM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished.)
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To: luvbach1

That too.


20 posted on 09/30/2013 9:44:21 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Jonty30

A family in the next county was almost wiped out by the daughter’s druggie boyfriend who is now sentenced to life in prison for five murders.The daughter didn’t go in the house,apparently she just drove the car...

The whole bunch were using or selling drugs except for the neighbor across the street who was killed probably just because he stepped out side on hearing the shots.

So guessing the estranged daughter in today’s story is a druggie and wanted the family money.


21 posted on 09/30/2013 9:45:59 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: Hojczyk
Much more information from the Mail Online here:

Daughter kills mother and brother before being shot dead by her own father as family feud 'over inheritance' ends with four dead
22 posted on 09/30/2013 9:48:03 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media. No Blood For Ego!)
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To: luvbach1

Remind them of the gas can and fire initiators found in the aggressor’s car....

Are gun grabbers concerned with murder by arson?


23 posted on 09/30/2013 10:02:52 AM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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To: Hojczyk

From the comments;
James said;
“Guns, God and Conservatism is holding mankind back from evolving.”

Bwaaaaaahahahaha! No James, the gene pool was cleaned up a bit.


24 posted on 09/30/2013 10:11:12 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Hojczyk

Looks like hell below increased its population by two. What a dirty, heinous thing to do killing family members over money and things. Instead they both wind up in hell as their wicked reward. Satan turns his followers into eternal chumps.


25 posted on 09/30/2013 10:34:17 AM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: Hojczyk

So, is this killing blamed on Bush, sequestering, gun control or the impending government shutdown?

Did I miss any of the current regime’s boogeymen?


26 posted on 09/30/2013 10:38:05 AM PDT by ssaftler (Oh, hell YEAH!!!! This is absolutely Obama's fault)
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To: tflabo

Looks like hell below increased its population by two. What a dirty, heinous thing to do killing family members over money and things. Instead they both wind up in hell as their wicked reward. Satan turns his followers into eternal chumps.

It is a damned good thing the father had a gun, otherwise there would have been two still living evil people and 3 dead people that St. peter would have to decide their eternal fates...


27 posted on 09/30/2013 10:47:55 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: cripplecreek

My first thought would be mental illness but the fact that the husband was involved leads me toward drugs and or money.

Yup the daughter bled her grandmother dry to support her and her boyfriend’s drug habit then wanted more and blamed her parents for “estranging her” even though she burned her own damned bridge.


28 posted on 09/30/2013 10:49:17 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Hojczyk
I expect to see a documentary on Investigation Discovery Channel sometime soon. There is a series called, "Wicked Attraction".

My wife and I watch a lot of the various investigative shows on Discovery. It is quite telling about the nature of our fellow Americans, and their me mentality of I want it all, and I will do all I can to get. Even if it means I have to murder my family and friends to get it.
29 posted on 09/30/2013 10:58:22 AM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: GraceG

My brother refuses to work and relied on my mother for support. When she would mention that her money was getting low, he would become enraged.


30 posted on 09/30/2013 11:01:18 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: AppyPappy

My brother refuses to work and relied on my mother for support. When she would mention that her money was getting low, he would become enraged.

When people get dependent they become re-attached at the teat...

When you are weaning a baby they get very damned fussy when they are denied a teat to suckle upon....

We have a LOT of adult babys living in this day and age!


31 posted on 09/30/2013 11:04:37 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: donmeaker
He may choose to bury his daughter, but he doesn’t have to.

Poor man. Too bad the laws don't allow you to leave bodies out for the buzzards to feed off of. I wouldn't leave her and her husband to the taxpayers to bury but spend her inheritance to cremate them and scatter the ashes between the landfill and the sewer system.

32 posted on 09/30/2013 11:10:00 AM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: Hojczyk
There is more background information in an AP article about the same shooting:

A relative, Virginia Cruse, said the daughter and mother did not get along, but that she had no idea what spawned Friday's tragedy. The daughter had "a hatred toward the family," she said.

When Josephine was about 20, she and a boyfriend trashed her parents' home and stole items including a pistol, then fled to Pittsburgh, Cruse said. After that, she said, "more or less, they disowned her."

The article also mentions that the daughter "had disabilities that prevented her from working," which means that she was on the public dole. Most likely she was a methhead (as well as being an Obama voter).

Horrible tragedy for the father, losing his entire family to a psychotic and most likely drugged out daughter.

33 posted on 09/30/2013 11:16:39 AM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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Daughter kills mother and brother before being shot dead by her own father as family feud ‘over inheritance’ ends with four dead

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2437159/Pennsylvania-home-invasion-Family-feud-inheritance-ends-4-dead.html#ixzz2gOyDWcGI


34 posted on 09/30/2013 11:23:45 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: GraceG
Dear Grace, What a lovely name you have. It is my sincere hope that your comment (otherwise there would have been two still living evil people and 3 dead people that St. peter would have to decide their eternal fates...) was not meant to be an accurate description. Jesus Christ will judge the dead, not Peter. With all the trouble in the world I do not want anyone to be confused about who reads from the Book and is our final Judge. In His Name, TL
35 posted on 09/30/2013 12:04:25 PM PDT by Tomato lover ( Jesus is Lord of all)
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To: Tomato lover

Dear Grace, What a lovely name you have. It is my sincere hope that your comment (otherwise there would have been two still living evil people and 3 dead people that St. peter would have to decide their eternal fates...) was not meant to be an accurate description. Jesus Christ will judge the dead, not Peter. With all the trouble in the world I do not want anyone to be confused about who reads from the Book and is our final Judge. In His Name, TL

Jesus may judge but doesn’t St. Peter operate the trapdoor to hell with a lever that is by his seat at the pearly gates?

(I am kidding by the way)

My mistake, I know a lot of people have the whole image of St. peter standing by the gates with his book... Maybe he only executes the fate that jesus has written in the book...


36 posted on 09/30/2013 12:09:34 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: bgill

If you are a Zoroasterist or Parsee, then you are obligated to permit the buzzards to feed.

They have special places set up for that, the towers of silence.


37 posted on 09/30/2013 2:43:32 PM PDT by donmeaker (Youth is wasted on the young.)
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To: bgill

Zoroastrian burial rites center on exposure of the dead. After death, a dog is brought before the corpse (preferably a “four-eyed” dog, i.e., with a spot above each eye, believed to increase the efficacy of its gaze). The rite is repeated five times a day. After the first one, fire is brought into the room where it is kept burning until three days after the removal of the corpse to the Tower of Silence. The removal must be done during the daytime.

The interior of the Tower of Silence is built in three concentric circles, one each for men, women, and children. The corpses are exposed there naked. The vultures do not take long—an hour or two at the most—to strip the flesh off the bones, and these, dried by the sun, are later swept into the central well. Formerly the bones were kept in an ossuary, the astodan, to preserve them from rain and animals. The morning of the fourth day is marked by the most solemn observance in the death ritual, for it is then that the departed soul reaches the next world and appears before the deities who are to pass judgment over it.


38 posted on 09/30/2013 3:08:02 PM PDT by donmeaker (Youth is wasted on the young.)
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To: donmeaker

Well, there ya go. That should suffice.


39 posted on 09/30/2013 5:31:40 PM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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