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Van Hollen: ‘Speaker Cruz’ in control
thehill.com ^ | September 30, 2013 | Mike Lillis

Posted on 09/30/2013 3:03:56 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) has essentially taken the House speakership from John Boehner during the fight over federal spending, Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.) charged Monday.

"It's pretty clear that this whole episode is being driven by the hard-right, extreme, Tea Party elements of the Republican Party, and we're seeing that play out in the House, where Sen. Cruz is essentially running the show," Van Hollen said during a breakfast sponsored by The Christian Science Monitor in Washington.

"If Speaker Boehner doesn't want to assert his leadership," he added, "then he should go ahead and turn the gavel over to Speaker Cruz, because that's what we're seeing in the House."

Cruz has been the public face of the campaign to scale back President Obama's healthcare law as part of stopgap legislation to fund the government beyond Monday. The Tea Party favorite spoke for more than 21 hours on the Senate floor last week, urging Republicans to stand firm against ObamaCare funding.

Boehner and other GOP leaders had initially rejected that strategy, pushing a continuing resolution (CR) that didn't condition the spending extension on the inclusion of ObamaCare provisions. They were forced to pull their bill, however, in the face of opposition from House conservatives who agree with Cruz.

What followed was a game of legislative ping-pong between the House and Senate that has left the government on the brink of a shutdown.

Boehner and GOP leaders first passed a CR that defunded ObamaCare; Senate Democrats stripped the health provisions and returned the "clean" bill to Boehner. House Republicans then amended the proposal with two attachments: one to delay ObamaCare for a year, and another to eliminate a tax on medical devices that's helping to fund the law.

The amended measure passed in the wee hours Sunday morning, sending the bill back to the Senate, where Democrats are expected Monday to quickly strip the healthcare provisions once more and return yet another "clean" proposal to the House.

If the chambers fail to reach a deal by midnight, large portions of the government would shut down.

The Senate's likely maneuver Monday confronts Boehner with the same dilemma he faced just three days ago: either pass a clean CR with the help of Democrats and face a near-certain revolt from Tea Party-backed conservatives, or attach another round of GOP amendments and send the bill back to the Senate, likely triggering a shutdown.

The GOP conference is planning to meet at 2 p.m. Monday to discuss their strategy.

Democratic leaders have scheduled their own meeting at 2:30 p.m.

Van Hollen said Monday that, although a clean CR would lose conservatives insistent on the ObamaCare provisions, Boehner would pick up enough Democratic support to pass a clean bill should he bring it to the floor. A number of Democrats, including leaders like Reps. Steny Hoyer (Md.) and Xavier Becerra (Calif.), had said earlier in the month that they couldn't support any CR that includes sequestration.

"I can't speak for everybody," Van Hollen said, "but I can confidently predict that if you put that on the floor of the House, it would, in fact, pass today. All the Speaker has to do is try. … But he refuses to do it because he knows it will pass."

Van Hollen also expressed support for a much shorter CR — a week, say — to prevent a shutdown Tuesday.

Republicans, meanwhile, have hammered Obama for what they say is the president's failure to negotiate with Congress on reaching a deal.

"No one's shutting down the government except the president," Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) said Saturday. "The president said he won't negotiate."

The dynamics have put Boehner in the awkward position of calling on Obama to enter the discussion for the sake of a deal while simultaneously refusing to negotiate with the president for fear of a backlash from his right-most flank.

Facing pressure from conservatives in January, Boehner told his conference that he would abandon one-on-one negotiations with Obama on the budget — a vow he amplified earlier this month. The Speaker suggested Obama should negotiate instead with Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.).

Van Hollen acknowledged that Boehner is in a tough spot. But he also declined to give the Speaker a pass if the government shuts down, accusing Boehner of "feeding the beast" by catering to conservatives at the expense of economic stability.

"It is time for the Speaker to make a decision," Van Hollen said. "Either he should step aside for Sen. Cruz, or he should exert some leadership."


TOPICS: Government; US: California; US: Maryland; US: Ohio; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: abortion; california; deathpanels; maryland; obamacare; ohio; texas; zerocare
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1 posted on 09/30/2013 3:03:56 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Good Lord. IF ONLY.


2 posted on 09/30/2013 3:04:29 PM PDT by bolobaby
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I stand with Cruz...I hope this is true.


3 posted on 09/30/2013 3:05:03 PM PDT by bimboeruption
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I like that!

No, I LOVE THAT!

I LOVE THAT A WHOLE LOT!


4 posted on 09/30/2013 3:05:07 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Hmmmmm.

I smell FEAR.

That’s good. It’s time.


5 posted on 09/30/2013 3:06:56 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Go cr@p in your hat, Chrissie, pull it over your ears and go to your room and cry.


6 posted on 09/30/2013 3:06:56 PM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

We wish


7 posted on 09/30/2013 3:07:07 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Be careful what you wish for.


8 posted on 09/30/2013 3:07:21 PM PDT by jmcenanly ("The more corrupt the state, the more laws." Tacitus, Publius Cornelius)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

COOL!!!!! Although John has LOCATED his set!! GO JOHN!!!


9 posted on 09/30/2013 3:07:24 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: jmcenanly

What do you mean?


10 posted on 09/30/2013 3:09:09 PM PDT by bimboeruption
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Van Hollen, whose district would be as wealthy as Detroit if it weren’t for government, is one of two dirtbag rats whose mere face on my TV sets off the auto-mute.


11 posted on 09/30/2013 3:09:30 PM PDT by Jacquerie (An Article V amendment convention of the states is our only hope.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
The Democrats are trying to provoke Boehner by appealing to his ego and pride.

This is no longer about what is good and right for the country. For the Democrats and Obama, it is only about winning by any means necessary.

Even if that means belittling and humiliating the other side, in as personal a way as they can muster.

-PJ

12 posted on 09/30/2013 3:12:45 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

jumping up and down and clapping!!!!!...go Cruz go!


13 posted on 09/30/2013 3:13:35 PM PDT by cherry (.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

They tried a full-court press on the “Republicans are to blame” meme over the weekend and through this morning and it doesn’t look like it’s gaining a lot of traction. It will get nasty - the Dems are going to jerk wheelchairs from Medicare patients and blame the Republicans. If that doesn’t work, though, if their media control can’t frame this the way they want it, they’re really hurting.


14 posted on 09/30/2013 3:13:45 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Tailgunner Joe

The house should pass funding for one department at a time.

Let the senate go on record for shutting down each and every department.


15 posted on 09/30/2013 3:13:48 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Tailgunner Joe
I can remember the hooting and hollering back when Reagan was on his way. I'm sure there is some file film somewhere with Dems saying "Run Reagan, We are praying you are dumb enough to run Reagan." We did. He won. Twice. Was the best president in my 62 year lifetime. I see Reagan in Cruz. Today on the "Five", Beckel said please make Cruz your nominee.

From your lips to God's ears.

16 posted on 09/30/2013 3:14:18 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Hey van hollen... up your Obama hole you communist bastard!


17 posted on 09/30/2013 3:15:45 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Speaker Cruz ... I REALLY like the thought of that.

Can the GOP just vote bonehead out on a moment's notice?

18 posted on 09/30/2013 3:16:05 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I am noticing that....all these democRats warning us about blame going to GOP do not look happy! If GOP will get the blame they should be rejoicing and smiling ear to ear!

But what do I see? Bob Beckel on “The Five” just said if the gov’t is shut down, the repubs will get the blame. Except he was frowning, not smiling.

I watched C-SPAN this morning showing committee proceedings chaired by Pete Sessions of TX. It was the same thing! All 4 democrats looked very grim and dour talking about shutdown. They also were convinced GOP will get the blame. So why the sour faces? They should be happy!


19 posted on 09/30/2013 3:16:06 PM PDT by entropy12 (With no fear of re-election, Obama is becoming more radical left..thanks a lot all you who abstained)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Tea Party “extreme”? What is extreme about it? I have yet to hear their definition of “extreme”.


20 posted on 09/30/2013 3:16:41 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Tailgunner Joe

“If Speaker Boehner doesn’t want to assert his leadership,” he added, “then he should go ahead and turn the gavel over to Speaker Cruz...”

Damn straight Chris. I agree. Preach on.


21 posted on 09/30/2013 3:19:45 PM PDT by vmivol00 (I won't be reconstructed.)
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To: vmivol00

Van Hollen better see a doctor for that hyperventilating before his beloved Obama care kicks in and he will have to wait so long, the outcome may be bad.


22 posted on 09/30/2013 3:21:50 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: Jacquerie

The sight of any democrat make me want to puke.


23 posted on 09/30/2013 3:22:02 PM PDT by Glockmaster
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To: Tailgunner Joe

First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win. :-)


24 posted on 09/30/2013 3:22:43 PM PDT by KevinB (A country that would elect Barack Obama president twice is no longer worth fighting for.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

The fool does not even realize that many on the left and in the center also oppose Obamacare. Cruz is speaking for America.


25 posted on 09/30/2013 3:28:03 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The username is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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26 posted on 09/30/2013 3:28:34 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Tailgunner Joe.

> Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.) charged Monday.

What’s his FR nick?


27 posted on 09/30/2013 3:28:45 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

At this point boehner seems to be getting the memo...lets see how this all works out.

In the mean time our conservatives in congress should be getting support from all of us!


28 posted on 09/30/2013 3:31:26 PM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: Political Junkie Too

100% correcto...Boenhner is doing our will for the moment. I dont say forgive and forget but we need to be together on this one folks.


29 posted on 09/30/2013 3:33:22 PM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Cruz has unified the republicans, at least in the House. Despite Peter King, they are standing together. With Boehner leading them, they were divided and bickering.


30 posted on 09/30/2013 3:47:17 PM PDT by cotton1706
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To: Tailgunner Joe
"It's pretty clear that this whole episode is being driven by the hard-right, extreme, Tea Party elements of the Republican Party

Really? If this little clown thinks it's OK to call me a hard-right, extreme, Tea party element would it be OK for me to call him and his side fanatical leftists, progressive socialists, and liberal scum hellbent on destroying America?????

31 posted on 09/30/2013 3:52:35 PM PDT by eeriegeno (<p>)
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32 posted on 09/30/2013 3:53:15 PM PDT by Zakeet (Democrats haven't destroyed your freedoms ... you can still visit them at the Smithsonian)
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To: Zakeet

Love that one ;)


33 posted on 09/30/2013 3:53:50 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Well Chris, FO&D!
I had the good fortune of voting for Ted Cruz, and he is doing EXACTLY what I hired hin to do.


34 posted on 09/30/2013 4:01:23 PM PDT by DeepInTheHeartOfTexas
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To: DeepInTheHeartOfTexas
van hollen is another gift from the mentally ill and deficient maryland voters. It is yet further proof that maryland is THE Freak state.
35 posted on 09/30/2013 4:06:06 PM PDT by ogen hal (First amendment or reeducation camp)
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To: eeriegeno
would it be OK for me to call him and his side fanatical leftists, progressive socialists, and liberal scum hellbent on destroying America?????

It would be fine if you want to "sugar coat" it like that.

36 posted on 09/30/2013 4:06:36 PM PDT by DeepInTheHeartOfTexas
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To: Tailgunner Joe
 
 
Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) has essentially taken the House speakership from John Boehner during the fight over federal spending, Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.) charged Monday.
 
And this would be a bad thing???
 
 

37 posted on 09/30/2013 4:10:10 PM PDT by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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To: Viennacon

Van Hollen sounds like he just got off a LIBERAL STRATEGIC CONFERENCE CALL. Get Van, that ought to stir it up in the House.


38 posted on 09/30/2013 4:47:29 PM PDT by spawn44 (moo)
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To: spawn44

Did anyone else just see Captain Birdseye go nuts on the House floor?


39 posted on 09/30/2013 4:50:15 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Dems are poking Boehner in the eye...to make him start cracking some Tea Party heads...

The main goal of this whole democrat Kabuki show is to crush the Tea Party House members by pinning the government shutdown on them...

40 posted on 09/30/2013 5:00:06 PM PDT by Popman (Liberal wars are about killing people for humanitarian reasons...)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Question to Speaker Boehner: What is your strategy to protect America from the tyrannical take over of health delivery and finance?
John Boehners reply: "Um I don't know this answer, I give up!
41 posted on 09/30/2013 5:08:12 PM PDT by DaveyB ("When injustice becomes the law; rebellion becomes duty." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
The government on "Cruz Control".

I really like the sound of that!

42 posted on 09/30/2013 5:17:17 PM PDT by Gritty (We are quickly running out of "boxes"...)
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To: DannyTN

They did that. All weekend.

Reid wouldn’t touch the bills.


43 posted on 09/30/2013 5:35:14 PM PDT by DrewsMum
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To: knarf

Uh, Cruz isn’t qualified to be Speaker....


44 posted on 09/30/2013 5:39:29 PM PDT by DrewsMum
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To: DrewsMum
No they didn't. I just reviewed all the bills the house passed since 9/.27.

They passed a continuing resolution for all departments at the same time, with the exception that they defunded Obamacare unless it was delayed one year.

The only departments that they passed individual appropriations for were the military and parts of the state dept. They passed an appropriation for the military that would keep them paid in the event of a government shutdown. The Senate passed that one and Obama signed it.

I'm not sure what happened with the state dept. It probably went through as well.

But I think they should split the continuing resolution up by department. And pass one department at a time. Reid probably wouldn't touch them, because it's not the blanket no strings continuing resolution he wants. But primary responsibility for spending is with the House and the House needs to excert it's authority.

45 posted on 09/30/2013 5:50:57 PM PDT by DannyTN
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Michelle Bachmann was on Hannity today and that’s what she said.

Don’t shoot the messenger. Lol


46 posted on 09/30/2013 6:04:35 PM PDT by DrewsMum
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To: DrewsMum

Explain


47 posted on 09/30/2013 6:14:11 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: ogen hal

That is true. But many who live there are from somewhere else - more so as you get closer to DC and Baltimore. The counties that have more native Marylanders are less whacky, some even conservative. Case in point:

Andrew P. Harris (R), 1st Congressional District, MD, includes Cecil, Kent, Queen Anne’s, Caroline, Talbot, Dorchester, Wicomico, Worcester & Somerset counties & parts of Baltimore, Carroll & Harford counties. Most of those counties are well away from DC and Baltimore (most on the eastern shore). Even the portion in Baltimore county is the northern part, the most distant from Baltimore. Most of the counties in the district also went Republican in the last presidential election.

http://www.mdp.state.md.us/pdf/redistricting/2010maps/cong/dist_1.pdf


48 posted on 09/30/2013 6:18:37 PM PDT by Henry Hnyellar
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To: jmcenanly

Could you expound upon that?


49 posted on 09/30/2013 6:41:17 PM PDT by polymuser ("We have a right to debate and disagree with any administration!" (HRC))
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To: knarf

You have to be member of the HOR


50 posted on 09/30/2013 7:38:37 PM PDT by DrewsMum
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