Skip to comments.Itís the Law, Yes, and Most Americans Oppose It
Posted on 10/01/2013 12:16:55 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Today, more than three and a half years after the Democrats passed Obamacare into law, the overhauls exchanges its East Germanlike government marketplaces will finally, sort of, open for business. The Democrats fully expect their fellow Americans to be so excited about buying government-approved insurance through these government-run exchanges that theyre choosing to shut down the government rather than delay the individual mandate for a year. Better to shut down the government, it would seem, than let Americans freely decide even for a year whether or not to buy Obamacare-based insurance.
Alas, the individual mandates penalties will be low enough, and the cost of insurance under Obamacare will be high enough, that most people especially younger, healthier people will likely decide that the Obamacare fine beats the Obamacare product. But the Democrats need to get as many people to buy Obamacare-based insurance as possible, and they know that the individual mandate will often be the key to making or coercing the sale. So funding for the rest of the federal government can wait. Such is the strange state of play as we enter the last quarter of 2013, and hence the first quarter of the new fiscal year.
Perhaps even stranger, yet not altogether surprising, is the Democrats new favorite line of argument about Obamacare namely, that its the law and therefore not only Republicans but all Americans should just deal with that. The clear implication is that the American people are powerless to act, through their elected representatives, to repeal laws they dont like. This, of course, is ridiculous....
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Just another Democrat “law”... like slavery or jim crow.
They’ve been ignoring immigration laws for decades.
I suppose only certain laws really matter, only the destructive and invasive inconstitutional laws seem to matter
Never mind that DOMA was the law of the land and the demon crats ignored it and refused to defend it in court. Invalidated by default as no one showed up to defend it in court.
Some laws are more equal than other laws and enforced depending on their feelings on how you feel about that law!
DOMA was law.
I’ve noticed the Rats acting and talking like Zerocare is a constitutional amendment. They need fixing too.
This should be re-stating the obvious; but sadly the sheeple and the media need to understand this:
All laws that are passed must be fully enforced by all present and future Presidents.
However, no Congress is bound by past Congresses. They can defund or repeal.
> Alas, the individual mandates penalties will be low enough, and the cost of insurance under Obamacare will be high enough, that most people especially younger, healthier people will likely decide that the Obamacare fine beats the Obamacare product.
Of course we all know how they will “fix” this.
Someone on another thread pointed out to me that the BORDER FENCE is also the law...passed several years ago. But it hasn’t been funded, so the fence isn’t done.
They seem to be telling themselves that since 0 was “re-elected” (ahhh...yeah) that the American people “voted” for 0bamacare. I guess it’s not that much different than telling themselves that 0 “won” in 2012 even though there were precincts with not 1 vote cast for another candidate & that in excess of 100% of the people registered, voted.
“It’s hard to accept the truth when the lies are exactly what they wanted to hear”
(a fellow FReeper posted this as a graphic & I saved in haste, so don’t have who to credit)
This focus on “health care” is here because so many Americans have chronic disesases. From 65% of Americans being overweight or obese you have chronic diabetes, heart issues, etc. From the “empowered” young women on college campuses and big cities you have a cornucopia of sexually transmitted diseases. If you take a random young single woman from NYC, she’s more likely to be a petri dish of a whole host of diseases, including HIV, than a random homosexual man from NYC.
So, Americans are fat and slutty and they want someone else to pay for the health consequences of that.
But, hey just say I’m a racist/sexist/homophobe and tell yourself your extra 50 pounds isn’t much and your daughter isn’t slutting it up at college.
Yeah, I’m just a hater. Just make yourself FEEL better with that thought.
America has the government it so richly deserves.
Prohibition comes to mind.
One thing to remember, health insurance does not mean good health. They are two separate things.
“Ive noticed the Rats acting and talking like Zerocare is a constitutional amendment. They need fixing too.”
Agree. Americans have a history, tradition, of civil disobedience toward bad laws. A few that come to mind without bothering to research are; Boston Tea Party and subsequent American Revolution, Underground Rail Road, Womens Sufferage, Civil Rights Movement, 55mph speed limit. There’s plenty more examples but you get the idea. You might say that Americans believe that it’s not only a right but an obligation to disobey bad law.
55 mph was the national speed limit. Democrats are idiots.
Yeah Ocare is ‘the law’. We ought to treat it just like the dims treat border control.... ignore it
Very good point. Basically, Obama sees the legislature and the popular will to be simply an obstacle - but not a very big one - to his wishes.
As several other people here have already pointed out, any time Obama doesn't like a law, he doesn't bother to go to the legislature and the people and get it redone. He simply voids it through an executive order or ignores it and acts as if it had never happened, without going to either the legislature or the courts.
So it's no wonder that he doesn't think the legislature has the right to change or revisit a law that the people don't like. He honestly doesn't care, and while his not caring should theoretically be slapped down by the courts as unconstitutional, he just simply ignores that, too. And there are never any real consequences to him or his minions.
Both flaunted the law of the land and did not deal with it.
Goodness, does ANYONE seriously believe that the nation’s lawmakers give a rat’s *ss what Americans thing?
The American government exists for the good of the American government.
We’ll obey this law like the odumbo and the demodummies obey our Constitution. Dump odumbocare and him with it.
It’s an unconstitutional law, therefore we are bound to ignore it.
It is “the law”, except for the parts that Obama has unilaterally and illegally delayed, written exemptions for over 1200 of his support groups, subsidized Congress and their staffers...etc.
This unilateral abrogation should be the basis for dismissing Obamacare in total.
It’s the law, yes...
But it was passed by fraud, lies and lawlessness...
Here’s the kryptonite comeback to libs on the “it’s the law” BS!
The Dred Scott Decision was the law too. It was also wrong. Or do you libtards/Obamatrons believe that THAT SCOTUS decision was correct? You know, the one where nine of the 11 justices declared “no slave or descendant of a slave could be a U.S. citizen, or ever had been a U.S. citizen. As a non-citizen, Scott had no rights and could not sue in a Federal Court and must remain a slave.” OH, so SCOTUS isn’t infallible, is it?
So much for it “being the law.” Wrong is wrong, I don’t care how many men wearing a black dress say it’s right.
See my post below yours.
See my post above.
"After all, Prohibition was the law of the land (under the 18th Amendment), and the politics of its widespread loss of respect for the law resulted in its repeal (21st Amendment).
The 21st Amendment did not totally end Prohibition. The individual states could then vote in local option for either being wet or dry. But the power was stripped from the Federal government to enforce prohibition anywhere.
How was that for repeal and replace?