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Arrest in SUV driver attack by bikers
My Fox NY ^ | October 1, 2013 | KATHY CARVAJAL

Posted on 10/01/2013 2:53:44 PM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia

NEW YORK (MYFOXNY) - Police have arrested one of the bikers involved in the initial incident that lead to the vicious attack of a man driving his family in Manhattan, the NYPD said. Meantime, some people are saying the driver is not the victim because one of the bikers he ran over is in a coma.

Video posted to YouTube from the helmet camera worn by a motorcyclist shows a pack of bikers attacking the driver of an SUV following a fender bender on the West Side Highway on Sunday afternoon.

Christopher Cruz, 28, was charged with reckless endangerment, reckless driving, endangering the welfare of a child and menacing. He was not injured in the accident.

The driver of the black Range Rover -- Alexian Lien, 33 -- was with his wife and young child inside when he struck a motorcycle that was in front of his car, police said. In the video, Lien is seen stopping the SUV and then speeding away and striking three motorcycles when the group began to damage his SUV.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: attack; bikermob; bikers; flashmob
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1 posted on 10/01/2013 2:53:45 PM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Throw the book at this Cruz


2 posted on 10/01/2013 2:57:05 PM PDT by Patriot Babe
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

From the article:
“”The media is trying to paint the man driving the Range Rover as the victim. Yet, Jay Meezee is in a coma and paralyzed unable to walk again along with a list of severe injuries sustained.”

Another motorcyclist suffered a broken leg, according to reports.”

Didn’t John Wayne say that if one was going to be stupid one had better be tough?

Criminals on two wheels are ill advised to pick fights with SUV drivers.

Being comatose is better than assuming room temperature, which is what the bikers were asking for when they mobbed the SUV owner and his family.

Read more: http://www.myfoxny.com/story/23567742/suv-driver-attacked-by-pack-of-bikers#ixzz2gVglEpb1


3 posted on 10/01/2013 3:01:09 PM PDT by GladesGuru (uences)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

The SUV guy was following too close.

If the SUV guy was scared of bikers, he could have pulled over to let all of them pass. But to run over the bikes!!!!


4 posted on 10/01/2013 3:01:12 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Patriot Babe

We’re not told why he ran over the first motorcyclist. It looked like some sons of Obama were trying to start stuff with a white guy.


5 posted on 10/01/2013 3:01:13 PM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Patriot Babe

Find a judge to hold him in contempt until he names all if his a-hole pals.


6 posted on 10/01/2013 3:01:56 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

From the article:
“”The media is trying to paint the man driving the Range Rover as the victim. Yet, Jay Meezee is in a coma and paralyzed unable to walk again along with a list of severe injuries sustained.”

Another motorcyclist suffered a broken leg, according to reports.”

Didn’t John Wayne say that if one was going to be stupid one had better be tough?

Criminals on two wheels are ill advised to pick fights with SUV drivers.

Being comatose is better than assuming room temperature, which is what the bikers were asking for when they mobbed the SUV owner and his family.


7 posted on 10/01/2013 3:04:15 PM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est - Because of what Islam is and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: Lurker

I bet the bikers were all “Justice for Trayvon!” types. Ones who supported the crack-addled black attacker in Florida.


8 posted on 10/01/2013 3:05:51 PM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: BunnySlippers

“The SUV guy was following too close.

If the SUV guy was scared of bikers, he could have pulled over to let all of them pass. But to run over the bikes!!!!”

You have no idea what you’re talking about, watch the videos first then come back and talk intelligently about what happened.


9 posted on 10/01/2013 3:05:53 PM PDT by trapped_in_LA
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To: All

This wasn’t a pack of middle aged Harley drivers reliving their youth. The video shows they are thugs. Maybe something happened before the video starts. Otherwise, they were looking for a confrontation.


10 posted on 10/01/2013 3:05:55 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Mieses was in a medically induced coma at St. Luke's-Roosevelt Hospital, family said.

11 posted on 10/01/2013 3:06:26 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: demshateGod

He did not run over the first motorcyclist. The guy on the bike pulled in front and stopped short causing the first accident with no injuries. The SUV driver then proceeds to pull over. At that point, the rest of the bikers start to damage his car by smashing the vehicle.

At that point, the driver feared for his life and the lives of his family (wife and son who were in the car) then drove over several motorcycles to get away from the gang.

The gang takes off and chases the SUV eventually forcing the SUV to stop. At which time the gang then drags the driver from the vehicle and proceeds to beat him and put him into the hospital.


12 posted on 10/01/2013 3:08:05 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: BunnySlippers
But to run over the bikes!!!!

I believe he was trying to escape the gang which was bashing in his car windows. Oh, yeah, wife and baby were in the car with him.

13 posted on 10/01/2013 3:08:23 PM PDT by BfloGuy (Workers and consumers are, of course, identical.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
It could have been an accident or on purpose. Let’s wait for the details.
14 posted on 10/01/2013 3:10:07 PM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

I ride one of my motorcycles almost every day. If I were to ever put myself and my bike in front of an automobile and deliberately brake in an effort to get it to stop I would rightfully expect to be run into.


15 posted on 10/01/2013 3:10:09 PM PDT by South40 (Liberalism is a Disease)
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To: BunnySlippers
Go watch the video. The first biker cut the SUV off, then hit the brakes. Then after being hit, several of the bikers started to damage the mans SUV, endangering him, his wife, and baby. He fled in fear for his and his families safety, and (based on the mob actions and final outcome) rightfully so.

The bikers were looking for trouble, and they found it...

16 posted on 10/01/2013 3:10:19 PM PDT by Dubh_Ghlase (Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls, It tolls for thee.)
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To: BfloGuy

Look, let’s be clear about this. The country is rapidly devolving to a Road Warrior - Mad Max scenario. You better be prepared to escape WITH YOUR LIFE, so if you need to, you are ALIVE to face charges. Period.


17 posted on 10/01/2013 3:11:28 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: BunnySlippers
They surrounded him while he was stopped and were pounding on his vehicle. Regardless of why thats no bueno.

He gunned it to escape. Thats how several bikers were injured. Too bad for them.

I probably would've done the same thing.

18 posted on 10/01/2013 3:12:24 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Here is the video. Its clear the bikers involved caused the conflict.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ukdkgLYYbw


19 posted on 10/01/2013 3:12:48 PM PDT by Maelstorm (The political class love diversity and choice only when the its choices they approve of.)
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To: BunnySlippers

Read the story again. Your assumptions are wrong. He did pull over, then they started hitting his car with helmets, then he ran over the 3 bikes and allegedly injured one of the Bikers.


20 posted on 10/01/2013 3:13:25 PM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: Patriot Babe

I’ll go you one better. There was a second biker a-hole who was injured pretty badly when the suv had to flee the initial assualt. If said a-hole dies, every one of those biker scumbags can be charged with murder. They were all party to a crime (assualt of the SUV owner) when one of their accomplices was killed. I believe that under NY state law all of the criminal accomplices can be charged in that death.


21 posted on 10/01/2013 3:14:03 PM PDT by RightOnTheBorder
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To: trapped_in_LA

No, you’re the one who has no idea what you’re talking about.


22 posted on 10/01/2013 3:14:08 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: BunnySlippers

Read the story again. Your assumptions are wrong. He did pull over, then they started hitting his car with helmets, then he ran over the 3 bikes and allegedly injured one of the Bikers.


23 posted on 10/01/2013 3:15:03 PM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: Lazamataz
The country is rapidly devolving to a Road Warrior - Mad Max scenario.

About damned time, too.

24 posted on 10/01/2013 3:15:11 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: BfloGuy

“I believe he was trying to escape the gang which was bashing in his car windows. Oh, yeah, wife and baby were in the car with him. “

I’d have put the SUV in 4WD Low Range and mashed the throttle until I was either out of there or the sucker had quit! These bikers (and I ride) are a pack of trash! Watch the video!


25 posted on 10/01/2013 3:15:31 PM PDT by vette6387 (i)
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To: Usagi_yo

I watched the video twice. We disagree. If the guy was afraid of bikers, why not pull over to let them pass instead of traveling in their group?


26 posted on 10/01/2013 3:16:11 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: BunnySlippers

Lol, you are so wrong.


27 posted on 10/01/2013 3:16:33 PM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

why cant people just get out of everyone’s way? the bikers ought to have just let the guy drive through and the driver shouldnt have over-reacted


28 posted on 10/01/2013 3:16:37 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (http://thegatwickview.tumblr.com/ http://thepurginglutheran.tumblr.com/)
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To: Usagi_yo

We disagree. I can handle. Bet you can’t.


29 posted on 10/01/2013 3:17:51 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: RightOnTheBorder

Great Ideal there. No doubt they started and they must suffer the consequences.


30 posted on 10/01/2013 3:19:32 PM PDT by Patriot Babe
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

I would have hit a lot more of them. This guy panicked and didn’t really try to.


31 posted on 10/01/2013 3:20:06 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia; Lurker

There was a minor fender bender to start, and the SUV driver pulled over to try and take care of that issue. The bikers then started damaging his vehicle and threatening him. Rather than get out, and put himself, his wife, and his small hold into danger, he fled...running over a couple of bikes as he did so.

The bikers gave chase and kept trying to open his door, or break his window...but the guy kept getting away.

The SUV driver really messed up when he got off of the freeway and got caught up in traffic. That’s when one biker used his helmet to break the driver’s window and pull him out of h car and beat him.

IMHO, what the driver needed at the end was a conceal carry 9mm or .45 with. High capacity magazine.


32 posted on 10/01/2013 3:20:07 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: taxcontrol

>>The gang takes off and chases the SUV eventually forcing the SUV to stop. At which time the gang then drags the driver from the vehicle and proceeds to beat him and put him into the hospital.<<

He should have gone serpentine in their asses when they were following them, then thrown it into reverse at top speed when he was blocked.

There should be 20 bikers in the hospital and this guy should be giving interviews from his living room, not recovering in a hospital room.

The SUV driver’s mistake was one of timidity.


33 posted on 10/01/2013 3:21:51 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Fight Tapinophobia in all its forms! Do not submit to arduus privilege.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

More video.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3cd_1380579664


34 posted on 10/01/2013 3:22:03 PM PDT by Maelstorm (The political class love diversity and choice only when the its choices they approve of.)
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To: BunnySlippers

These motorcyclists groups menace people in New Jersey &NY. I’ve had to pull my car over for these freaks but why should I? I pay a high monetary price to ride our roads.


35 posted on 10/01/2013 3:23:11 PM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: BunnySlippers

They targeted and swarmed the guy. He stopped and they started breaking his windows in. What would you do if gang members tried getting into your car with a wife and child inside. I would hit every one to escape.


36 posted on 10/01/2013 3:23:21 PM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: BunnySlippers

You have the whole thing wrong, it’s plain as day.

Why was he afraid of the bikers .... not because they were well behaved, it’s because they caused the accident and then attacked him. He did pull over and was attacked yet again.

Go dude, I rode a Motorcycle for 8 years. On a motorcycle you *don’t* start a pissing contest with a car, cars don’t start pissing contests with Tractor Trailers, and Tractor Trailers don’t start pissing contests with trains.

Do you understand, if you’re in an accident, you have absolutely no rights whatsoever to start a violent confrontation over it.

If everybody just realized they always have a yield sign in front of them the world would be a much better place.


37 posted on 10/01/2013 3:23:22 PM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: BunnySlippers

>> If the guy was afraid of bikers, why not pull over to let them pass instead of traveling in their group?<<

THEY WERE AFTER HIM TO DO HIM GREAT BODILY HARM!!

Reading is Fun-damental!


38 posted on 10/01/2013 3:23:27 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Fight Tapinophobia in all its forms! Do not submit to arduus privilege.)
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To: BunnySlippers

No, we don’t disagree. You’re flat out wrong and in fantasy la la land.


39 posted on 10/01/2013 3:25:04 PM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Hmmm.....When did they start calling mopeds and rice grinders “motorcycles”?


40 posted on 10/01/2013 3:25:36 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (What do we want? Time travel. When do we want it? It's irrelevant.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

they were pixed cos the guy had a Range Rover and they don’t


41 posted on 10/01/2013 3:26:33 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: BunnySlippers

It isn’t a simple matter of disagreement. You are wrong here. Did you watch the video?

These gang-bangers on motorcycles started it.

When the guy tried to open the door of the vehicle while the family inside, that gang forfeited any expectation of forbearance.

In my mind that guy had every right to sideswipe, run over and intentionally crash his vehicle into every motorcycle pursuing him.


42 posted on 10/01/2013 3:26:44 PM PDT by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by its weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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To: freedumb2003

Give up on Bunnyslippers. He’s just rage trolling now because he got caught commenting without reading the article or watching the video.

Just give him a little leeway as he’ll come around and figure it’s better to be right than to continue to be wrong.


43 posted on 10/01/2013 3:27:29 PM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: RightOnTheBorder

Our keyboard warriors are suddenly all so sensitive about these menacing motorcyclists! That SUV driver had a baby in the car - of course he panicked! He didn’t have a gun but he had a powerful engine which did as good a job as possible.


44 posted on 10/01/2013 3:27:43 PM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Who wants to bet this never would have happened in a pro-2A state?


45 posted on 10/01/2013 3:27:59 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: yldstrk

Admin Mod, sorry, I forgot please change my answer to say they were upset that the guy had a Range Rover and they didn’t.

Is there any way to edit your own answers once posted?


46 posted on 10/01/2013 3:28:25 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: BunnySlippers

If you have no other alternative, you run over people if your life is in danger.

If you ever find yourself in a similar situation, you will understand that concept in a New York minute.

Because right now, you are utterly clueless.


47 posted on 10/01/2013 3:29:27 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: taxcontrol

If the SUV driver had been in procession of a 9mm automatic in addition to the 4 speed automatic in the vehicle the bikers may have all been in a comma


48 posted on 10/01/2013 3:29:54 PM PDT by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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To: Fai Mao

Might be pretty crowded in a comma.

;-)


49 posted on 10/01/2013 3:32:03 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (I REFUSE!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Weirdo motorcyclists have been menacing West Side drivers for a long time now. Every day, my husband takes that road and I pray he survives these maniacs. Clueless, is right!


50 posted on 10/01/2013 3:33:07 PM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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