Posted on 10/01/2013 5:43:50 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee
WASHINGTON — After a public backlash to government spying, President Barack Obama called for an independent group to review the vast surveillance programs that allow the collections of phone and email records.
Now, weeks before the group’s first report is due, some lawmakers, technology organizations and civil liberties groups are concerned that the panel’s members are too close to the Obama administration and its mission too vague to provide a thorough scrubbing of the National Security Agency technologies that have guided intelligence gathering since the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.
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The members of the review group are Richard Clarke, the chief counterterrorism adviser on the National Security Council for Clinton who later worked for Republican President George W. Bush; Michael Morell, Obama’s former deputy CIA director; law professor Geoffrey Stone, who has raised money for Obama and spearheads a committee hoping to build Obama’s presidential library in Chicago; law professor Cass Sunstein, administrator of information and regulatory affairs for Obama; and Peter Swire, a former Office of Management and Budget privacy director for Clinton.
“At the end of the day, a task force led by Gen. Clapper full of insiders – and not directed to look at the extensive abuse – will never get at the bottom of the unconstitutional spying,” said Mark Jaycox, a policy analyst for the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a privacy advocacy group.
(Excerpt) Read more at mcclatchydc.com ...
NSA / KGB really what difference does it make.
Obie loves him some surveillance.
Justice Department Expands Hunt for Data on Cellphones
http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/26/justice-department-expands-hunt-for-data-on-cellphones/
Obama’s NSA eavesdropping goes beyond that of Bush... after campaigning on the promise of: “ No warrantless wiretaps if you elect me!”
http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9845595-7.html
headlines read: “NSA Exceeds Legal Limits In Eavesdropping Program” , “ U.S. phone intercepts go beyond legal limits” , and “NSA Found Improperly Spying on Americans”.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123985123667923961.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
http://uk.reuters.com/article/burningIssues/idUKTRE53F09820090416
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/04/15/justice-dept-nsa-improperly-spied-americans/
Where is the outcry from the ACLU and the 1st Amendment protectors? I would think reporters would fear this and report on it.
Oh well, nevermind, as long as we FEEL safer and it’s not BUSH!
> WASHINGTON — After a public backlash to government spying, President Barack Obama called for an independent group to review the vast surveillance programs that allow the collections of phone and email records.
Now, weeks before the group’s first report is due, some lawmakers, technology organizations and civil liberties groups are concerned that the panel’s members are too close to the Obama administration and its mission too vague to provide a thorough scrubbing of the National Security Agency technologies that have guided intelligence gathering since the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.
Unbiased and truthful report I’m sure..../s
Obama has increased domestic surveillance 4 fold.
Well Putin seems to be promoting Christianity and opposing Islam these days.
Is the House actually taking any action/holding oversight hearings/prosecutions/etc. related to all these NSA revelations, or did Boehner just pretend like none of this stuff came to light?
I should thank you, your graphics are amazing!
Fuk I’m pissed, I called this. I still can’t believe it is happening and no repercussions at all.
The gov is truly not with the people! They are against them, and consider them slaves.
Been there, done that. I believe information they have gathered has already been used for political purposes.
You would have to be Slow Joe Biden or Manchin to believe that His Arrogance would appoint independent outside individuals .... that’s not how you run a coverup.
I hope no one is surprised by this.
What else would you expect.
Whitewash In Progress....
Are you REALLY equating NSA to the KGB?
Satan has his minions.
If this doesn’t convince people that the Bushes aren’t in this up to their moderate eyeballs, nothing will.
...Obama’s former deputy CIA director; law professor Geoffrey Stone, who has raised money for Obama and spearheads a committee hoping to build Obama’s presidential library in Chicago; law professor Cass Sunstein, administrator of information and regulatory affairs for Obama; and Peter Swire, a former Office of Management and Budget privacy director for Clinton.
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GREAT graphics....communist bump
ping
The NSA is a lot closer and thus more dangerous.
Does the NSA take people out into the woods and shoot them? No
Does the NSA monitor the citizens of this country? yes
Does the NSA pass that information on to other government agencies? yes
Is that information used to persecute people based on their political or moral beliefs? yes
Is the NSA effectively creating a ‘file’ on every American citizen? Yes
Will that file be used against those citizens in the future? yes
As I said, the trump card is the fact that the NSA is here, not way over there.
The list, Ping
Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list
Hoax & chains.
I retired from NSA 16 years ago. I spent most of my career on the tip of the spear, overseas. If all this internal spying was going on while I was working, it went on in an invisible organization. While working overseas, we were continually reminded of our responsibilities under the Fourth Amendment. We were warned that any collection, recording or reporting of communications between US Persons would lead to dismissal or prosecution. My hands and those of my colleagues, FRiend, are spotless. In a career of 33 years, I never heard one word of any such organization.
No doubt they keep everything compartmentalized. You weren’t in the illegal dirty-tricks department, and thus were able to work with a clean conscience. I’m sure they were careful to make sure that anyone with integrity or American values was kept away from the dark side of the agency.
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Ping.
Article, then check out graphics at # 3, ... also see # 5, # 24.
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And yet the NSA has publicly admitted all this is happening.
Perhaps you trust your friends. Power corrupts and our current govt is going down the path to totalitarianism very quickly.
The NSA is doing this. THEY are passing info to the DEA among other organizations and the information is being used in criminal prosecutions. They are using illegally gathered information to obtain convictions and LYING about the source of the information to the judge and juries.
FUNSA
Nothing new. They have been doing this for a long time...
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