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Honor Flight to World War II Memorial in jeopardy due to shutdown
northwestohio.com ^ | 10.01.2013 at 7:11 PM | Chris Delcamp

Posted on 10/01/2013 8:24:42 PM PDT by M. Thatcher

TOLEDO -- Locally in the Glass City, we can see the affects of the government shutdown at our museums, monuments, and national parks. The gates are closed and locked, denying access completely to the Ottawa National Wildlife Refuge.

TSA employees were still working at Toledo Express Airport, but when WNWO called the TSA to find out if they would be affected, there was a message that said the public relations representative did not have access to her voicemail or email due to the government shutdown.

In a letter from Marcy Kaptur's office in the 9th District, it read, "...only services deemed essential for the safety of human life and protection of property will be continued."

But for a group of World War II vets visiting the national memorial in Washington D.C., an all expense paid trip which is called an "Honor Flight," the shutdown was not stopping them from seeing the tribute that was inspired by them.

"It just goes to show you why we won World War II," says Honor Flight of Northwest Ohio President Lee Armstrong.

Many elderly veterans, some in wheelchairs, broke through the barriers set up around the memorial, as police, park service employees, and tourists looked on.

"The Germans and the Japanese couldn't contain us. They weren't going to let barriers contain them today. They wanted to see their memorial," says Armstrong.

Honor Flight of Northwest Ohio has a trip scheduled to depart from Toledo next Wednesday, October 9.

"We will make the call this Friday to determine if the flight is still a go, or if we will have to re-schedule," Armstrong explains.

He says they are considering going ahead with the trip even if the government is still on shutdown, but when he called the parks service, he was told they would face arrest.

Armstrong says, "I said, are you kidding me? You're going to arrest a 90/91-year-old veteran from seeing his memorial? If it wasn't for them it wouldn't be there. She said, 'That's correct sir.'"

When he asked for her name, he says she did not give it to him and then promptly hung up the phone.

99% of veterans on Honor Flights have never had the opportunity to see the memorial that is devoted to their service.

Through October, the are over 35,000 veterans scheduled to visit the site, more than 900 in the next five days alone.

It may all be waiting in limbo if the government can't complete their job.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: barrycades; bhofascism; civildisobedience; democrats; govtabuse; liberalfascism; memorial; obama; shutdown; tyranny; veterans; wwiiveterans
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1 posted on 10/01/2013 8:24:42 PM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: M. Thatcher
The TSA will be shut down???

And we should be worried because...??? Anyone?

2 posted on 10/01/2013 8:26:50 PM PDT by Martin Tell (Victrix causa diis placuit sed victa Catoni.)
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To: M. Thatcher

“David Burge;@iowahawkblog3h
White House PR Kamikazes try to pick a fight with guys who stormed Iwo Jima with flamethrowers “

Who says it better than Iowahawk?


3 posted on 10/01/2013 8:27:39 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: M. Thatcher

We are now under the thumb of an evil communist dictator.

elections have dire consequences.

pray for our country


4 posted on 10/01/2013 8:28:11 PM PDT by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: M. Thatcher
I think it is time:

Tiananmen Square photo: square tiananmen.jpg

5 posted on 10/01/2013 8:28:21 PM PDT by Never on my watch (Jeesh!)
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To: M. Thatcher

“It just goes to show you why we won World War II,”

“The Germans and the Japanese couldn’t contain us. They weren’t going to let barriers contain them today. They wanted to see their memorial,”


6 posted on 10/01/2013 8:29:10 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: M. Thatcher

Park Police arresting any member of the Greatest Generation for trying to see THEIR memoral should be enough to arouse any decent American to white-hot anger. Let’s see Harry Reid defend THAT.


7 posted on 10/01/2013 8:29:35 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (My PV2 is my hero.)
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To: M. Thatcher

WWII VETS WILL BE ARRESTED. WTF.


8 posted on 10/01/2013 8:29:53 PM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: M. Thatcher

I’d like to see some video of park ranger thugs arresting 90 year old WW2 vets. The Dept of the Interior is part of the executive branch, so....


9 posted on 10/01/2013 8:30:52 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Don't twerk me, Bro!)
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To: clintonh8r

You won’t see any such video, because it wouldn’t happen.


10 posted on 10/01/2013 8:33:21 PM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12----No king but Christ! Don't tread on me!)
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To: M. Thatcher

the memorial is open air, not in a building so why is it shut? other than the obvious corrupt fedeali jerks.


11 posted on 10/01/2013 8:34:54 PM PDT by bravo whiskey (We should not fear our government. Our government should fear us.)
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To: M. Thatcher

We’ve definitely reached the tipping point. I know what I’d do in their shoes, but it’s my life, and theirs is theirs.


12 posted on 10/01/2013 8:35:13 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: M. Thatcher

Let'em try

13 posted on 10/01/2013 8:35:23 PM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: M. Thatcher

Ya....mounted park service tried to pull that crap today and the Vet’s just plowed on through!

We’ll do it again.

Let the commie bastards have their stalinist tactics air on TV and Youtube.


14 posted on 10/01/2013 8:36:19 PM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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To: M. Thatcher

They even think about stopping these guys they will rue the day for the rest f their lives. I can’t even imagine having their face plastered all over the internet. They would never be able to go shopping, to the doctors, to the movies, to a restaurant for the rest of their lives without being spit on.


15 posted on 10/01/2013 8:37:41 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: M. Thatcher

Barry’s Nazi Park Service boys are going to take on American vets? They’re going to get their Nazi asses kicked.


16 posted on 10/01/2013 8:38:30 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The DemocRAT Pahtay! Spending our grandchildren's future, today!)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

You’re sure of that, are you? I imagine the vets would be too respectful to try to break in, but I wouldn’t put anything past some drone in a ranger uniform who never gets to use his gear....


17 posted on 10/01/2013 8:39:59 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Don't twerk me, Bro!)
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To: M. Thatcher
What do you suppose they're going to arrest them for? Trespassing on a privately-funded memorial?

Let's up the ante a little. Any federal flunky that orders it, any federal cop that enforces it, deserves to have his name and picture published in obloquy as a traitor to his country. It is most certainly time to go there.

18 posted on 10/01/2013 8:41:21 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: FlingWingFlyer

If one of these Vets has a heart attack due to the threat of getting arrested, I think that that will be the tipping point.


19 posted on 10/01/2013 8:42:10 PM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: M. Thatcher

How odd that they don’t have the money for the vets to see the memorial, but DO have the money to arrest and incarcerate them.


20 posted on 10/01/2013 8:43:10 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: M. Thatcher

I hope Barry’s pigs try it. The American people won’t stand for it. This will be Barack the Kenyan’s last “red line”.


21 posted on 10/01/2013 8:43:18 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The DemocRAT Pahtay! Spending our grandchildren's future, today!)
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To: M. Thatcher
He says they are considering going ahead with the trip even if the government is still on shutdown, but when he called the parks service, he was told they would face arrest.

I'd like to see them try.
22 posted on 10/01/2013 8:43:20 PM PDT by Girlene (Hey, NSA!)
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To: clintonh8r

The “tough guys” will most certainly arrest the Vets.


23 posted on 10/01/2013 8:44:08 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: M. Thatcher

The Greatest Generation veterans kicked Nazi butt 70 years ago....they will do it again!


24 posted on 10/01/2013 8:44:17 PM PDT by Brandonmark (OWCM is The new American Minority! 11.06.12 - Day of Infamy!)
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To: M. Thatcher

There’s a golden opportunity for Obastard right there, but he probably can’t bring himself to do it. There were Republican Congressmen there today to help the Vets clear the way into the Memorial today instead.


25 posted on 10/01/2013 8:46:29 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: clintonh8r
The hiring rules in the agency favor ex-military, so quite a few rangers will be vets themselves. Would anybody even try to order them to do such an incredibly vile thing as arrest WW2 vets visiting their own memorial? Some fatass bureaucrat like the one answering the phone probably might, but would the rangers follow through on the order? I don't believe it. They're Americans too; a large number of them must feel the same as we do about this.
26 posted on 10/01/2013 8:48:24 PM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12----No king but Christ! Don't tread on me!)
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Has anyone thought of a protective force for those vets, to defend them in the event some sick lib in charge authorizes the arrest of the Greatest Generation?

Seems like those two million bikers I saw not too long ago would come in handy for protecting them.


27 posted on 10/01/2013 8:49:30 PM PDT by InsidiousMongo
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To: clintonh8r
I imagine the vets would be too respectful to try to break in, but I wouldn’t put anything past some drone in a ranger uniform who never gets to use his gear....

Vets respectfully removed the barriers and let themselves into the Memorial today. I didn't see any breaking in.

28 posted on 10/01/2013 8:49:31 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: M. Thatcher
In a letter from Marcy Kaptur's office in the 9th District, it read, "...only services deemed essential for the safety of human life and protection of property will be continued."

In that case, we can suspend payment of Congresswoman Kaptur's paycheck effective immediately.

30 posted on 10/01/2013 8:52:03 PM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I would love to see local patriots show up to overwhelm, protect, and support.


31 posted on 10/01/2013 8:52:42 PM PDT by greatvikingone
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

With fes exceptions, if given the order by their handlers they will make the arrest. Just becasue a few vets in their ranks might not doesn’t mean the career fedgov drones wouldn’t.


32 posted on 10/01/2013 8:53:27 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Don't twerk me, Bro!)
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To: jmacusa

That is the truth! It’s also our land, our parks, and our veterans.


33 posted on 10/01/2013 8:54:44 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: Cyber Liberty

I wasn’t commenting on what happened today, but what might happen in the event of a real lock-out.


34 posted on 10/01/2013 8:54:59 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Don't twerk me, Bro!)
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To: Martin Tell

If it wasn’t for the WWII vets, Obama would be picking cotton and speaking German or Japanese.


35 posted on 10/01/2013 8:55:55 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: FlingWingFlyer

You know something, where the hell does the government get the f’ing idea that anything considered ‘’Government property, ‘’Government land is the governments? It’s OUR property OUR land! Who the f to they think they are?


36 posted on 10/01/2013 8:58:08 PM PDT by jmacusa
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To: clintonh8r
I’d like to see some video of park ranger thugs arresting 90 year old WW2 vets."

Should it come to that, the only viewable video will be a park ranger on his ass looking at the sky. They vets may be old, but we owe them our full respect and the knowledge that their six is covered. God bless them!!

37 posted on 10/01/2013 9:00:02 PM PDT by fuzzthatwuz
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To: fuzzthatwuz

With you 100%. Between my wife and me, there were four WW2 vets in my family, including my father and mother (flight nurse, thankfully still living), and one POW from the Battle of the Bulge.


38 posted on 10/01/2013 9:02:41 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Don't twerk me, Bro!)
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To: mrsmith
White House PR Kamikazes try to pick a fight with guys who stormed Iwo Jima with flamethrowers.

Most clear thinking Americans understand the absurdity of that statement and the dishonor involved in this instance - and are ashamed.

However, one is reminded of the 1932 Bonus Army episode. One out-of-control army officer, Douglas MacArthur, exceeded the president's orders and with fixed bayonets and billy clubs rousted the "army" of veterans that had peaceably collected in a public park, injuring 55.

Can one seriously doubt in the current political setting that something similar is possible?

39 posted on 10/01/2013 9:08:00 PM PDT by frog in a pot ("To each according to his need..." -from a guy who never had a real job and couldn't feed his family)
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To: M. Thatcher

I”m thinking we need to organize something about this.


40 posted on 10/01/2013 9:09:00 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see.)
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To: clintonh8r

Yeah, my family had a number of gold stars in the window. My wife was a flight nurse also, but during the so-called “cold war”. Those were the days in which we followed our leaders without question. Now? Not sure how I would react. Piss poor state of affairs, huh?


41 posted on 10/01/2013 9:11:38 PM PDT by fuzzthatwuz
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To: reaganaut
we need to organize something about this.

Yep. In memory of my dad, who fought in the Battle of the Bulge, I'm ready to roll.

42 posted on 10/01/2013 9:11:50 PM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: McGavin999
This was Obama's call:

"In a shutdown Executive Branch decides what stays open and what closes. WW2 Memorial barricaded to disabled vets after they contacted Obama" – Rep. Steve Stockman

43 posted on 10/01/2013 9:16:22 PM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: M. Thatcher

I have an uncle, now deceased, who served with the 84th. Infantry Division during the Bulge. Who was your father with?


44 posted on 10/01/2013 9:17:21 PM PDT by jmacusa
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To: M. Thatcher

This is ludicrous!

It’s an open-air, open-walkway exhibit. There’s absolutely no reason to block it off. It actually costs more money to put up barricades and man them, than it would to simply allow people to walk through the area.

This is being done for spite; to turn the screws and attempt to deceive the American people into thinking that shutting down the government is worse than it actually is.


45 posted on 10/01/2013 9:17:59 PM PDT by Egon (Apparently, Jimmy Carter DOES need a third term.)
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To: M. Thatcher

My father never got to see it.

46 posted on 10/01/2013 9:19:49 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: clintonh8r

That’s sort of what I thought. I expect we’ll see the barricades strengthened soon. Probably chained together more tightly and a second row, so we’ll see. But as I suggested, Obastard could be a real hero here, and he won’t be able to bring himself to do it.


47 posted on 10/01/2013 9:21:18 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

What happens when younger vets turn out in support???
What happens when a 100,000 motorcycles descend on DC???

Kick-stands UP


48 posted on 10/01/2013 9:24:41 PM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: holdonnow; caww; Colofornian; Elsie; Godzilla

What is your take?


49 posted on 10/01/2013 9:29:03 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see.)
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To: Girlene

I would like to see them try too. That would turn out the Tea Party and others in droves!


50 posted on 10/01/2013 9:31:01 PM PDT by kcvl
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