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Honor Flight to World War II Memorial in jeopardy due to shutdown
northwestohio.com ^ | 10.01.2013 at 7:11 PM | Chris Delcamp

Posted on 10/01/2013 8:24:42 PM PDT by M. Thatcher

TOLEDO -- Locally in the Glass City, we can see the affects of the government shutdown at our museums, monuments, and national parks. The gates are closed and locked, denying access completely to the Ottawa National Wildlife Refuge.

TSA employees were still working at Toledo Express Airport, but when WNWO called the TSA to find out if they would be affected, there was a message that said the public relations representative did not have access to her voicemail or email due to the government shutdown.

In a letter from Marcy Kaptur's office in the 9th District, it read, "...only services deemed essential for the safety of human life and protection of property will be continued."

But for a group of World War II vets visiting the national memorial in Washington D.C., an all expense paid trip which is called an "Honor Flight," the shutdown was not stopping them from seeing the tribute that was inspired by them.

"It just goes to show you why we won World War II," says Honor Flight of Northwest Ohio President Lee Armstrong.

Many elderly veterans, some in wheelchairs, broke through the barriers set up around the memorial, as police, park service employees, and tourists looked on.

"The Germans and the Japanese couldn't contain us. They weren't going to let barriers contain them today. They wanted to see their memorial," says Armstrong.

Honor Flight of Northwest Ohio has a trip scheduled to depart from Toledo next Wednesday, October 9.

"We will make the call this Friday to determine if the flight is still a go, or if we will have to re-schedule," Armstrong explains.

He says they are considering going ahead with the trip even if the government is still on shutdown, but when he called the parks service, he was told they would face arrest.

Armstrong says, "I said, are you kidding me? You're going to arrest a 90/91-year-old veteran from seeing his memorial? If it wasn't for them it wouldn't be there. She said, 'That's correct sir.'"

When he asked for her name, he says she did not give it to him and then promptly hung up the phone.

99% of veterans on Honor Flights have never had the opportunity to see the memorial that is devoted to their service.

Through October, the are over 35,000 veterans scheduled to visit the site, more than 900 in the next five days alone.

It may all be waiting in limbo if the government can't complete their job.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: barrycades; bhofascism; civildisobedience; democrats; govtabuse; liberalfascism; memorial; obama; shutdown; tyranny; veterans; wwiiveterans
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To: clintonh8r

Yeah, my family had a number of gold stars in the window. My wife was a flight nurse also, but during the so-called “cold war”. Those were the days in which we followed our leaders without question. Now? Not sure how I would react. Piss poor state of affairs, huh?


41 posted on 10/01/2013 9:11:38 PM PDT by fuzzthatwuz
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To: reaganaut
we need to organize something about this.

Yep. In memory of my dad, who fought in the Battle of the Bulge, I'm ready to roll.

42 posted on 10/01/2013 9:11:50 PM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: McGavin999
This was Obama's call:

"In a shutdown Executive Branch decides what stays open and what closes. WW2 Memorial barricaded to disabled vets after they contacted Obama" – Rep. Steve Stockman

43 posted on 10/01/2013 9:16:22 PM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: M. Thatcher

I have an uncle, now deceased, who served with the 84th. Infantry Division during the Bulge. Who was your father with?


44 posted on 10/01/2013 9:17:21 PM PDT by jmacusa
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To: M. Thatcher

This is ludicrous!

It’s an open-air, open-walkway exhibit. There’s absolutely no reason to block it off. It actually costs more money to put up barricades and man them, than it would to simply allow people to walk through the area.

This is being done for spite; to turn the screws and attempt to deceive the American people into thinking that shutting down the government is worse than it actually is.


45 posted on 10/01/2013 9:17:59 PM PDT by Egon (Apparently, Jimmy Carter DOES need a third term.)
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To: M. Thatcher

My father never got to see it.

46 posted on 10/01/2013 9:19:49 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: clintonh8r

That’s sort of what I thought. I expect we’ll see the barricades strengthened soon. Probably chained together more tightly and a second row, so we’ll see. But as I suggested, Obastard could be a real hero here, and he won’t be able to bring himself to do it.


47 posted on 10/01/2013 9:21:18 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

What happens when younger vets turn out in support???
What happens when a 100,000 motorcycles descend on DC???

Kick-stands UP


48 posted on 10/01/2013 9:24:41 PM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: holdonnow; caww; Colofornian; Elsie; Godzilla

What is your take?


49 posted on 10/01/2013 9:29:03 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see.)
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To: Girlene

I would like to see them try too. That would turn out the Tea Party and others in droves!


50 posted on 10/01/2013 9:31:01 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Martin Tell

WWII veterans storm D.C. memorial closed by government shutdown
Tuesday, October 01, 2013 6:39:51 PM

Was the “honor” flight of 80 year old veterans gate raped by the TSA?

“asked for guidance on how to respond” to the breach of security.”

I bet they will have the dogs out and fully loaded M4’s with those Hollow Point training rounds in 30 round magazine’s.

Tazers at the ready!

Teach those old geezers to storm the memorial. Terrorists!

Looks like I was right! I even bet 5 bucks the vets beat the obama out of the NPS weenies!


51 posted on 10/01/2013 9:38:34 PM PDT by Southern by Grace (kickbacks, bribes, maifia payoffs is how the D's get R' done!)
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To: Cyber Liberty
why do we allow ourselves to be decieved by a handful of self appointed aristocrats playing word games

truth be told it is not "ObamaCare" at all, it has nothing to do with "care" it is ObamaTax, and it is no "Government shutdown" it is a Government Showdown, punitive action in defiance of a branch of government in opposition to Obama's imposition of his Cloward-Piven strategy

52 posted on 10/01/2013 9:40:47 PM PDT by KTM rider
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To: Cyber Liberty

I would love to see the WW2 vets get to enjoy their memorial, even if it makes Zer0 look good in the process by making an exception for them. He’ll have plenty of opportunities to embarrass himself in some other ways....


53 posted on 10/01/2013 9:41:50 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Don't twerk me, Bro!)
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To: frog in a pot

If memory serves, Patton and Eisenhower were involved in that as well.

This situation is not quite the same, though.


54 posted on 10/01/2013 9:44:56 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Tell me again why "shutting down all non-essential government services" is a bad thing?)
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To: reaganaut

My take..

First of all ‘the barriers’ throughout Washington are a ploy of the Democrats and Obama......there’s no reason to keep people from “Looking” at any Monuments. They belong to ‘the people’ after all... not to the Government.

Second...these Vets reveal the heart and minds of Americans....any who attempt to arrest a single one of them will make Obama look really terrible than he is already...so that’s not going to happen. If it really does happen????

Then the outcry, in some tangible way, needs to be made known from every American. Am not sure just how much more Americans are going to handle of this corruption and terranny before they rise... but it’s fast moving to the edge.

At work today people are really angry....one individual shared their Insurance for a family three months ago was $500 and recently notified it will now be $1000. not counting co-pay or deductibles.......and they are not eligible for any subs...make too much money according to Obama.... She was one very angry woman!


55 posted on 10/01/2013 9:45:55 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww
"make too much money according to Obama.... She was one very angry woman!"

One has to ask...Did she vote for him?

56 posted on 10/01/2013 9:48:02 PM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12----No king but Christ! Don't tread on me!)
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To: M. Thatcher

an honor guard of Patriot Riders should make sure the Park Police do not molest the Vets.

The WW2 Memorial is unattended by any Park Police and is open to the street and sidewalk.

This is a time and place where the citizenry tells the government who is really in charge.

Enough of these petty fascists.


57 posted on 10/01/2013 9:48:54 PM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: Hoodat
I notice the destruction of the American health care system must be considered essential. Despite missing a host of deadlines in the bill, they proceeded to open sign up sites today, shutdown or no shutdown.

We don't have until the end of obassets term at the rate this country is being destroyed.

58 posted on 10/01/2013 9:49:40 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

No...in fact she’s a conservative. We had quite a good conversation...she’s well informed and pro-active concerning her family and life. That’s why three months ago she checked on her health Insurance and was stunned to be notified of the cost hike recently.


59 posted on 10/01/2013 9:55:38 PM PDT by caww
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To: Smokin' Joe

<...”We don’t have until the end of obassets term at the rate this country is being destroyed”....>

Nope we don’t...there’s the debt ceiling and amnesty coming up pronto... he wants Amnesty along with Obamacare with his name on them....and so do the Demorats who will then look good to the low-end voters and foreigners who just love the free rides.


60 posted on 10/01/2013 9:59:02 PM PDT by caww
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