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Honor Flight to World War II Memorial in jeopardy due to shutdown
northwestohio.com ^ | 10.01.2013 at 7:11 PM | Chris Delcamp

Posted on 10/01/2013 8:24:42 PM PDT by M. Thatcher

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To: Martin Tell

WWII veterans storm D.C. memorial closed by government shutdown
Tuesday, October 01, 2013 6:39:51 PM

Was the “honor” flight of 80 year old veterans gate raped by the TSA?

“asked for guidance on how to respond” to the breach of security.”

I bet they will have the dogs out and fully loaded M4’s with those Hollow Point training rounds in 30 round magazine’s.

Tazers at the ready!

Teach those old geezers to storm the memorial. Terrorists!

Looks like I was right! I even bet 5 bucks the vets beat the obama out of the NPS weenies!


51 posted on 10/01/2013 9:38:34 PM PDT by Southern by Grace (kickbacks, bribes, maifia payoffs is how the D's get R' done!)
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To: Cyber Liberty
why do we allow ourselves to be decieved by a handful of self appointed aristocrats playing word games

truth be told it is not "ObamaCare" at all, it has nothing to do with "care" it is ObamaTax, and it is no "Government shutdown" it is a Government Showdown, punitive action in defiance of a branch of government in opposition to Obama's imposition of his Cloward-Piven strategy

52 posted on 10/01/2013 9:40:47 PM PDT by KTM rider
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To: Cyber Liberty

I would love to see the WW2 vets get to enjoy their memorial, even if it makes Zer0 look good in the process by making an exception for them. He’ll have plenty of opportunities to embarrass himself in some other ways....


53 posted on 10/01/2013 9:41:50 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Don't twerk me, Bro!)
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To: frog in a pot

If memory serves, Patton and Eisenhower were involved in that as well.

This situation is not quite the same, though.


54 posted on 10/01/2013 9:44:56 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Tell me again why "shutting down all non-essential government services" is a bad thing?)
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To: reaganaut

My take..

First of all ‘the barriers’ throughout Washington are a ploy of the Democrats and Obama......there’s no reason to keep people from “Looking” at any Monuments. They belong to ‘the people’ after all... not to the Government.

Second...these Vets reveal the heart and minds of Americans....any who attempt to arrest a single one of them will make Obama look really terrible than he is already...so that’s not going to happen. If it really does happen????

Then the outcry, in some tangible way, needs to be made known from every American. Am not sure just how much more Americans are going to handle of this corruption and terranny before they rise... but it’s fast moving to the edge.

At work today people are really angry....one individual shared their Insurance for a family three months ago was $500 and recently notified it will now be $1000. not counting co-pay or deductibles.......and they are not eligible for any subs...make too much money according to Obama.... She was one very angry woman!


55 posted on 10/01/2013 9:45:55 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww
"make too much money according to Obama.... She was one very angry woman!"

One has to ask...Did she vote for him?

56 posted on 10/01/2013 9:48:02 PM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12----No king but Christ! Don't tread on me!)
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To: M. Thatcher

an honor guard of Patriot Riders should make sure the Park Police do not molest the Vets.

The WW2 Memorial is unattended by any Park Police and is open to the street and sidewalk.

This is a time and place where the citizenry tells the government who is really in charge.

Enough of these petty fascists.


57 posted on 10/01/2013 9:48:54 PM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: Hoodat
I notice the destruction of the American health care system must be considered essential. Despite missing a host of deadlines in the bill, they proceeded to open sign up sites today, shutdown or no shutdown.

We don't have until the end of obassets term at the rate this country is being destroyed.

58 posted on 10/01/2013 9:49:40 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

No...in fact she’s a conservative. We had quite a good conversation...she’s well informed and pro-active concerning her family and life. That’s why three months ago she checked on her health Insurance and was stunned to be notified of the cost hike recently.


59 posted on 10/01/2013 9:55:38 PM PDT by caww
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To: Smokin' Joe

<...”We don’t have until the end of obassets term at the rate this country is being destroyed”....>

Nope we don’t...there’s the debt ceiling and amnesty coming up pronto... he wants Amnesty along with Obamacare with his name on them....and so do the Demorats who will then look good to the low-end voters and foreigners who just love the free rides.


60 posted on 10/01/2013 9:59:02 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww
there’s the debt ceiling and amnesty coming up pronto

And, Repubs seem to be leading the charge on amnesty, which I cannot understand. I get that BIG $$ (donors) want it, but We the Constituents DON'T!

The funny thing is...even most dems, especially the older ones, don't want amnesty or out of control spending. So, these two *goals* of 0's might be harder to accomplish than he thinks. But, having the MSM as an accomplice is a bonus for him :(

61 posted on 10/01/2013 10:05:25 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: Martin Tell

Who will make me take off my shoes and my belt the next time I fly? For that matter, who’s going to arrest the WW II vets? Will they be paid? It looks like somebody in the MSM is going to have to actually run stories that will make Obama look bad. For that matter, will CNN have any qualms about it now that the government can’t bribe them anymore? How sweet it is!


62 posted on 10/01/2013 10:13:04 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg
Revolutions have been started for less...Just sayin’.
63 posted on 10/01/2013 10:13:59 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is not bliss. It is the road to serfdom.)
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To: Jane Long

Jane...I am seriously concerned the trajectory this nation is on may not be possible to stop. Just as the Democrats forced thru Obamacare they will do likewise with the rest...they know their time is shortened now so will be ramrodding and overwhelming the public with scads of issues ans distractions.

These are terrible times now and I think we should expect Obama’s reighn to do all possible to further destroy the American way of life...they said they would bring us kicking and screaming...and so this is no surprise to them while they keep moving their agenda along at a rapid pace.

Next you can expect Obama will claim a victory with Iran...and with the Palistinian Israeli issue....and he will sell us out on them all with no fear of consequences.

This guy they have as a fake President has revealed his full ignorance and stupidity about anything other than crashing thru this country and deceiving thousands of people...he is one vile man who will walk away from all this unscathed.


64 posted on 10/01/2013 10:20:54 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww
I hear you and mostly agree.

That's why it's more important than EVER to stay the course and fight these b@st_rds with all we have....social media, phone calls, emails, rallies, etc. Thanks be to God for Ted Cruz, Mike Lee and the few patriots in DC. Praying that they now have a strong coalition, since they're/we're not only up against our expected opposition of Marxist dims, but even bribed/bought progressives on OUR side.

Luckily, the new media is staying on top of all of the cr@pola they try and pull, every day.

Continuing to pray for America to wake up.

65 posted on 10/01/2013 10:28:42 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: M. Thatcher

Arrest The Greatest Generation?

Right...


66 posted on 10/01/2013 10:29:03 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: rockinqsranch

We need all to get our guns, and go to Washington. This has to end, what better time than now?


67 posted on 10/01/2013 10:32:21 PM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Evil must be punished.)
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To: greatvikingone

Me too, and when they try to arrest them. I want to see anyone trying it bloodied and beaten.


68 posted on 10/01/2013 10:34:18 PM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Evil must be punished.)
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To: Dick Bachert
Revolutions have been started for less...Just sayin’.

Reposting your comment. For no other reason other than to repost your comment.

69 posted on 10/01/2013 10:40:10 PM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: M. Thatcher

I hope to Hell that they DO, very publicly & in front of news cameras, arrest them all, and haul them off in paddy wagons.

Shown on the alphabets, that MIGHT be the spark required.


70 posted on 10/01/2013 10:47:03 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: frog in a pot

With better gear and better communication, it’s not only possible, but expected of them.


71 posted on 10/02/2013 12:39:47 AM PDT by wastedyears (One nation, under wub. Saints Row IV)
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To: reaganaut

I agree.


72 posted on 10/02/2013 1:49:00 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (Gun Control Haiku: Say "Registration" / And they call you paranoid / So say "Privacy")
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To: Dick Bachert

DO you know the story of Gandhi’s March to the Sea?


73 posted on 10/02/2013 1:54:11 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (Gun Control Haiku: Say "Registration" / And they call you paranoid / So say "Privacy")
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To: frog in a pot
"Douglas MacArthur, exceeded the president's orders"

Liberal revisionist history. MacArthur was ordered BY THE PRESIDENT to clear the bonus marchers camp, which he did. The progressive/commies have been trying for years to smear the good general name. They are still trying since he was the only American general to kick their asses, twice.

74 posted on 10/02/2013 1:59:45 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: M. Thatcher

Bring your M-1s boys.
Some faggy little pencil pushing geek tries to stop you, shoot em.


75 posted on 10/02/2013 2:27:31 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) ( Hey Rubio, eat pooh pal))
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To: catnipman

Bump


76 posted on 10/02/2013 2:47:34 AM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: Cyber Liberty
I expect we’ll see the barricades strengthened soon. Probably chained together more tightly and a second row, so we’ll see.

Wouldn't put it past him...

"Let's see those old SOB's break into the memorial now!"


77 posted on 10/02/2013 2:53:36 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: clintonh8r

I saw on Greta a group of vets going to see the WW II Memorial and taking down the baracade. It is happening.


78 posted on 10/02/2013 3:07:28 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: M. Thatcher
if the government can't complete their job.

Ah, the casual sovietness of the media.

79 posted on 10/02/2013 3:08:23 AM PDT by cmj328 (We live here.)
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To: caww

They know 2014 is coming.


80 posted on 10/02/2013 3:09:41 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: M. Thatcher

So they hAve the personnel to arrest them but not to keep the park open. Checkmate.


81 posted on 10/02/2013 3:24:43 AM PDT by ez (Muslims do not play well with others.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My grandpa never got to see it either...nor his son..who visited his grave in Margratten, Holland for the first time last month.
Let one hair of harm come to the head of one those vets...


82 posted on 10/02/2013 3:26:43 AM PDT by Vigilantcitizen
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To: clintonh8r

Do they have their own SWAT teams for such situations?


83 posted on 10/02/2013 3:56:07 AM PDT by matt04
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To: bravo whiskey

“the memorial is open air, not in a building so why is it shut? “

Because Obama thinks it’s his own personal property.


84 posted on 10/02/2013 3:58:25 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Tagline: (optional, printed after your name on post))
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To: Cyber Liberty

There were Republican Congressmen there today to help the Vets clear the way into the Memorial today instead.


This also needs to be said time and time again.

Every time these WW2 vets are mentioned storming the Memorial, it needs to be mentioned that they were aided by Republican Congressmen tearing down the barricades.

There were no Black Caucus members there helping. There were not DNC members helping. There was nobody from Obama’s administration helping tear down the barricades.

ONLY Republican Congressmen.....


85 posted on 10/02/2013 4:02:33 AM PDT by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: doc1019

If it wasn’t for the WWII vets, Obama would be picking cotton and speaking German or Japanese.


No, he would be chunking spears in Kenya at antelope........


86 posted on 10/02/2013 4:04:42 AM PDT by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: M. Thatcher
I hope the vets go and get arrested.

It will be the end of the Democrap party FOREVER.

87 posted on 10/02/2013 4:09:50 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: bravo whiskey
the memorial is open air, not in a building so why is it shut?

They had to erect barricades to shut it. Yes, you heard that right.

We can't just have people walking up to a memorial willy-nilly, now can we?

Seriously, I hope they arrest the vets. I really do. That will end the Democrap Party.

88 posted on 10/02/2013 4:12:23 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: eartick

Jambo...Jambo!!!


89 posted on 10/02/2013 4:24:33 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Does anyone know if the other Memorials are closed or just WWII? I have heard, anecdotally, that the Vietnam Memorial remained open.

If this is the case and it’s only WWII that’s very, very telling.


90 posted on 10/02/2013 4:42:17 AM PDT by GatorGirl (Who is John Galt?)
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To: M. Thatcher

Since the government is down, do the park service police have the right to say or do anything. The fact they are acting is illegal. They do not exist


91 posted on 10/02/2013 4:48:56 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: M. Thatcher
Honor Flight of Northwest Ohio has a trip scheduled to depart from Toledo next Wednesday, October 9.

"We will make the call this Friday to determine if the flight is still a go, or if we will have to re-schedule," Armstrong explains.

He says they are considering going ahead with the trip even if the government is still on shutdown, but when he called the parks service, he was told they would face arrest.

Mr. Armstrong: Please go ahead with your trip. I want to volunteer to be a "human shield" for your Honor Flight. I will agree to serve as a 'proxy' for one of the veterans, and allow myself to be arrested in his place.

Let me know ASAP if you need my services so I can take the day off next Wednesday and be at the Memorial early.

I JUST thought of this and have put no deep thought or planning in to it at all, but I'd sure be happy if it became a "movement". I urge as many others as possible to be there next Wednesday to help protect the men & women who gave so much to protect all of us so long ago.

92 posted on 10/02/2013 4:57:25 AM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos...)
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To: M. Thatcher
(Nat'l Park Service says Vets will be arrested)

B y WHOM?

Keystone Kops?

93 posted on 10/02/2013 4:57:43 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: BulletBobCo

Love it. I would humbly participate in escorting any of these heroic men and women to THEIR memorial, shutdown be damned.

I had the pleasure of working with a Tuskeegee airman that was one of those leading to the Memorial’s approval. I would not let his tireless effort be denied to others who served.


94 posted on 10/02/2013 4:57:53 AM PDT by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: eartick

YES!!!!! You can say that again.


95 posted on 10/02/2013 4:58:08 AM PDT by Lurk-know-more (The administration is causing the battle lines to be formed. Defend the US Constitution.)
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To: BulletBobCo

“Come and take it!”

Vague Alamo reference...


96 posted on 10/02/2013 4:58:55 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: jpsb
Liberal revisionist history.

Perhaps. There seems to be arguments on both sides of the issue of whether MacArthur was directed to use any and all means to clear the demonstration or whether he was simply Hoover’s scapegoat for the resulting violence.

The point of my OP with regard to the present situation is to demonstrate that persons in authority have in the past and should be expected in the future to use unreasonable force on U.S. citizens who exercise their right to assemble and voice their opinions.

It appears we hold different opinions on MacArthur’s professional aptitude and reputation. He did in fact have a substantial number of military accomplishments, some of which were attained via the adroit use of politics.

In my view however, the historical record indicates his role in WWII and most specifically, his role during the Korean War was much less than what we could have expected from one with his credentials. Ask any USMC veteran of the Korean War whether MacArthur kicked ass in that conflict.

97 posted on 10/02/2013 4:59:06 AM PDT by frog in a pot ("To each according to his need..." -from a guy who never had a real job and couldn't feed his family)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
This will be Barack the Kenyan’s last “red line”.

There are RED ones; and then there are some in the sand...

98 posted on 10/02/2013 5:00:24 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: InsidiousMongo

Please see my Comment #92, below.

Spread the Word.


99 posted on 10/02/2013 5:00:51 AM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos...)
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To: Gene Eric
The “tough guys” will most certainly arrest the Vets.

I guess America's 'rulers' would find out just how MANY 'blades of grass' there are!!!


Especially in THAT crowd!!!

100 posted on 10/02/2013 5:01:43 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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