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Cracks emerge in House GOP on shutdown strategy
The Hill ^ | 1 October 2013 | Bob Cusack

Posted on 10/02/2013 5:20:35 AM PDT by COBOL2Java

Cracks are starting to emerge among House Republicans on their government funding strategy.

A handful of Republicans in the lower chamber on Tuesday embraced a “clean” continuing resolution (CR): Reps. Pat Meehan (Pa.), Jon Runyan (N.J.), Scott Rigell (Va.), Mike Fitzpatrick (Pa.) and Frank Wolf (Va.).

They joined Rep. Charlie Dent (R-Pa.) and GOP New York Reps. Pete King and Michael Grimm, who endorsed a clean CR earlier this week. A "clean" bill would not include provisions to delay or defund ObamaCare, and is supported by the White House and Senate Democrats.

In a Tweet, Meehan stated, “I came to DC to fix gov't, not shut it down. It’s time for House to vote for a clean, short-term funding bill to bring Senate to the table.”

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 113th; boehner; cr; gop; shutdown
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1 posted on 10/02/2013 5:20:35 AM PDT by COBOL2Java
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To: COBOL2Java

they are getting an earful now LOL


2 posted on 10/02/2013 5:22:02 AM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: COBOL2Java

Add my congresscritter, Randy Forbes (4th-VA) to the list of defectors.


3 posted on 10/02/2013 5:25:16 AM PDT by tgusa (gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .......)
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To: COBOL2Java

Where are the conservative voters in these districts? If they all back Obama, why aren’t they Democrats? There is no advantage in caving to the Democrats now. These quislings will be wined and dined in the Obamedia, but they should be excluded from the caucus because they cannot be trusted.


4 posted on 10/02/2013 5:25:45 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: COBOL2Java

Pat Meehan is a Romney-driven RINO who demands
RomneyCARE and RomneyMarriage be enforced on all.


5 posted on 10/02/2013 5:26:54 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: COBOL2Java

I hope this was in the calculus when Cruz et al started down this road. BTW, if the GOP does end up signing a ‘clean’ CR, they NEED to strip out the Senate Ryders in the current CR - fair is fair.


6 posted on 10/02/2013 5:27:13 AM PDT by 11th_VA (I want a president who won't enforce tax laws ...)
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To: rrrod

I think this is going well.

Obamacare for all the opposition on this board, has some good qualities.

I am glad it passed. (I know, but I am)

That said, our government is WAY, WAY, WAY too big and too expensive.

GOP hold the line. We need to shrink government a lot.

Now.

At the same time, we need to BRING BACK US BUSINESSES TO AMERICA.

That is the part nobody is talking about right now.

If we’re going to control the cost of government, we need jobs for the people.

Brink back US jobs.


7 posted on 10/02/2013 5:27:35 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: rrrod

Old news, trying to exacerbate a rift. As of last evening the resolve in the house is strong. Peter kings clean CR plan is dead.

Individual spending bills will pass today, further weakening Reid and company

R’s look reasonable D’s look like obstructive bastards.


8 posted on 10/02/2013 5:28:17 AM PDT by chiller (NBCNews et al is in the tank and should be embarrassed)
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To: chiller

Keep up the pressure folks!


9 posted on 10/02/2013 5:30:02 AM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: COBOL2Java

The 2nd shutdown in 1995 lasted about 3 weeks. Stopped by Bob Dole. I doubt this one will make it half as long given we have two Bob Doles and no Newt.


10 posted on 10/02/2013 5:34:21 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: chiller

I sure hope you’re right.


11 posted on 10/02/2013 5:34:57 AM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: COBOL2Java
A handful of Republicans in the lower chamber on Tuesday embraced a “clean” continuing resolution...

Thankfully, the house is run like a dictatorship and not a democracy so it doesn't really matter if a majority of members (all the democrats and a few traitor Republicans)want a "clean" CR, if the leadership doesn't schedule a vote on it, it doesn't happen. So far the leadership doesn't seem to be budging (be thankful for small miracles)....

12 posted on 10/02/2013 5:35:03 AM PDT by apillar
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To: COBOL2Java

If the Senate hasn’t come to the table so far and that alone has about got the House GOP spitting up the bit, why would a short-term CR make them any more willing to negotiate?


13 posted on 10/02/2013 5:35:30 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

What are the good qualities of Obamacare that make you back it?


14 posted on 10/02/2013 5:36:19 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: txrefugee

I would bet the house that a lot of these cats constituents are what you would call non-essential personal. You know, six figure welfare recipients.


15 posted on 10/02/2013 5:38:04 AM PDT by gusty
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To: 9YearLurker

I very much like the fact we now have a fall-back plan, that anyone on America can use to cover their costs.

Regardless of medical history.

I think that is a very valuable addition to American medical care.

I think the fact it got a lot of attention is good, and I like the way this is playing out so far.

Stand firm GOP.


16 posted on 10/02/2013 5:39:07 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: COBOL2Java
The "One" lost his mojo when he got is Kenyan rear kicked by us second amendment types during the gun control push.

That's why he was so irate after the senate loss, he knew he was washed up at that moment.

17 posted on 10/02/2013 5:39:08 AM PDT by SecondAmendment (Restoring our Republic at 9.8357x10^8 FPS)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

You think the financial burdens of Obamacare are going to help bring jobs back here? I bet Chinese companies and the manufacturing centers ‘taking’ our jobs don’t have the onerous regulations and burdens that companies do here. Obamacare just multiplied that. Tack on huge new expenses for every hire. Punih companies for hiring full time employees and punish growing companies when they hit 50 employees. Sounds like a good plan to create jobs.


18 posted on 10/02/2013 5:39:36 AM PDT by ilgipper (Obama is proving that very bad ideas can be wrapped up in pretty words)
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To: apillar
be thankful for small miracles)....

Amen! I never thought that they would last this long. But good for them.

19 posted on 10/02/2013 5:39:39 AM PDT by sport
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To: COBOL2Java

In other words, gie the Obamabastard exactly what he wants.

Peter King is possibly the dumbest man in Congress. He is right there with Joe Loserman and Dollar Bill Bradley in the I.Q. department.


20 posted on 10/02/2013 5:40:59 AM PDT by ZULU (Impeach that Bastard Barrack Hussein Obama)
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To: rrrod

So what is the exact plan to stop Obamacare? Howe are they going to coerce the Senate and Obama to get rid of this?

This is not meant to bait anyone. I am genuinely interested in learning more of exactly how they plan on making sure that at the very least the most odious provisions of Obamacare - granted, chooisng the most odious is very, very hard to do - do not get forced on the American people?

Or for some in the House GOP, is it more about delaying it at this point?


21 posted on 10/02/2013 5:42:24 AM PDT by freedom462
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To: ilgipper

America (badly) needs to start looking out for America first.

That’s all I’m saying.

Bring back US jobs now. To America.

We should be protecting American jobs with costs to import, taxes on imports.

Just IMO.

We have gone far, far too long selling out America.

Brink back American jobs, and American factories.


22 posted on 10/02/2013 5:42:59 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
At the same time, we need to BRING BACK US BUSINESSES TO AMERICA.

Why would they come back when they have to pay that much more for Obamacare?

23 posted on 10/02/2013 5:43:16 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Future Snake Eater

Well quoted.

That seems to be the current mess, sending US corporations to COMMUNIST CHINA.

I’m just saying. Build stuff in America.


24 posted on 10/02/2013 5:45:29 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
BRING BACK US BUSINESSES TO AMERICA.

I believe one of the riders on the Senate bill would prohibit Gov't grants to any company that has a call center outside US territory

25 posted on 10/02/2013 5:47:04 AM PDT by 11th_VA (I want a president who won't enforce tax laws ...)
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To: COBOL2Java

If they cave now, there is no opposition party and we are a one party nation.

Last one out, turn out the lights.


26 posted on 10/02/2013 5:47:35 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: chiller
Old news, trying to exacerbate a rift. As of last evening the resolve in the house is strong. Peter kings clean CR plan is dead.

I'm glad to hear that. I first heard this on the local radio talk station WMAL, which is normally right-leaning. They were referring to Frank Wolf, who is a local Northern VA pol.

27 posted on 10/02/2013 5:47:54 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: 11th_VA

This is a very good start.

People, America needs jobs.


28 posted on 10/02/2013 5:50:02 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: COBOL2Java
My fake Republican is on the list as well. I've written to him (Michael Grimm) and told him directly I will be working for his defeat. I have worked in politics for almost 28 years and understand how to do what I aim to do. Why would i do this? Because I see this as a very serious personal attack on me and my family and i will NOT tolerate it. What Grimm appeared to be in 2010 has been revealed to be a pack of lies. The National Journal ranked in exactly in the middle on a left to right scale. This is amazingly exactly where the Democrat we kicked out was! I didn't work 70 days straight for 10 hours a day to change the letter behind my Congressman's name. As a fellow Marine Grimm embarrasses me. I don't give a damn if we get a Democrat in here next, hey this is New York City and the GOP run in this district is long over due to end anyway.
I'll be walking in front of Grimm's New Dorrp lane office with my sandwich board on telling people what a puke he is.
29 posted on 10/02/2013 5:51:51 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

So you’re for government (i.e., taxpayer-funded) freebies if it involves something you may be eligible for and interested in?

Even if it involves a fascist nationalization of 15% of our economy?

Why are you here and supportive of the GOP rather than over on DU and backing the Democrats?


30 posted on 10/02/2013 5:52:24 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

Is your healthcare provided by the government?

Mine is not.


31 posted on 10/02/2013 5:53:27 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

No, but I’m self-employed and I can no longer get the plans I had in the last three states I’ve lived in. My options have at least doubled in price and of course Obamacare is just a planned, unworkable waystation en route to fully socialized medicine.

But that begs the question, have you no conservative principles and if not, what are you doing here?


32 posted on 10/02/2013 5:57:57 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: COBOL2Java

Thanks OBAMA and you lousy stupid Democrats!!! -

http://governmentshutdown.noaa.gov/

No weather info -—


33 posted on 10/02/2013 5:58:47 AM PDT by BCW (The War in Iraq - http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html)
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To: 9YearLurker

I’m advocating for American industry.

Bring back American jobs.


34 posted on 10/02/2013 6:01:30 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: BCW

You should be able to find the weather data from weather channel website, no?


35 posted on 10/02/2013 6:01:42 AM PDT by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: COBOL2Java

Someone needs to go over and punch King right in the head. See if it shakes some sense loose.

You never know, it could be worth a try.


36 posted on 10/02/2013 6:04:01 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
You are advocating unconstitutional socialized medicine. You should go to DU.

/johnny

37 posted on 10/02/2013 6:06:41 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: jmaroneps37
I'll be walking in front of Grimm's New Dorrp lane office with my sandwich board on telling people what a puke he is.

Good. Clean his clock we don't need those kinds of "republicans"

38 posted on 10/02/2013 6:06:50 AM PDT by Gasshog (Welcome to the United States of Stupidos!)
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To: 9YearLurker
My options have at least doubled in price and of course Obamacare is just a planned, unworkable waystation en route to fully socialized medicine.

Is this before or after the income tax credit? I'm curious about the impact on actual people. My pet theory is that this will stick the majority with large bills to benefit the minority. It's the kind of thing that should be easy enough to model, given enough time, but I haven't seen a study that breaks out the percentage of people who will spend more and how much more they will spend after the tax credits are factored in.

39 posted on 10/02/2013 6:07:06 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I am advocating for American medicine.

Mine is private, but if I lose my job I want a back-up.

You may have another view. I expect most people on this site are in agreement with you, though I also believe most of those people have a government plan.

I do not, that is the difference.

I am quite conservative.


40 posted on 10/02/2013 6:09:55 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: COBOL2Java

Frank Wolf needs to go.


41 posted on 10/02/2013 6:10:44 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: COBOL2Java

In the end, this will all be for nothing. The republicans will cave, give the dims what they want, watch the Dims celebrate victory, we get full Obamacare which destroys health care in America, America becomes a total communist state, with dictator Obama in charge. America is done folks. There is no hope of it ever coming back. The America fought for, served in the Army for, spilled my blood on the ground for in combat, loved, honored, and adored is dead. Gone with the wind. Never to come back.


42 posted on 10/02/2013 6:10:48 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (I am proud to be a Christian and follower of my Lord Jesus Christ. Time is short for U to know Him!)
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To: RetiredArmy

Wish I was as optimistic as you. /s


43 posted on 10/02/2013 6:14:57 AM PDT by Gasshog (Welcome to the United States of Stupidos!)
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To: freedom462

The plan is not to delay or shutdown but to regain power over the purse which is rightfully and constitutionally the power of the House of Representatives.

Another battle is approaching and that is the battle of the debt ceiling. And in this battle the crucial part is to pay the interest on the national debt, the ‘interest payment’ involving the full faith and credit of the USA. Obama will receive pressure internationally to make these payments and he will need funds to do it. The liberal media will of course pressure the House and try to blame them for risking default. But the international creditors will not bother to pressure the 435 members of the House, they will go and point their fingers at Obama.

If Obama does not sign a CR that pays the ‘interest payment’, he will be blamed as the first American President to default on American debt, and the blame will come from the international creditors.


44 posted on 10/02/2013 6:15:18 AM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
I don't have a government plan. Lots of folks don't have a government plan and don't want Obamacare.

What you are advocating is abandoning conservative positions based on what you think you need.

You should go to DU.

/johnny

45 posted on 10/02/2013 6:15:42 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
I’m advocating for American industry. Bring back American jobs.

and you are for socialized health care... you are speaking out of both sides of your booty... you make little sense...

46 posted on 10/02/2013 6:15:59 AM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
We normally agree, but support for Obamacare is fighting words.

Near zotworthy, in fact.

Just so you know how serious I am, I just sent Frank Wolf a request for a refund of all my campaign contributions from 1999-2011. I gave that yellow-bellied SOB I heck of a lot of money, it turns out.

47 posted on 10/02/2013 6:16:18 AM PDT by jboot (It can happen here because it IS happening here.)
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To: COBOL2Java

Shutting down Parks and Monuments is a personal thing to visitors. Hope they get flaming angry. No reason anyone can’t visit any of the Memorials at any time.


48 posted on 10/02/2013 6:18:06 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: BCW

Plenty of local weather around..


49 posted on 10/02/2013 6:20:39 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I don’t think its all that great. The hospital I work in has a hiring freeze in place because of concerns they have over this plan.


50 posted on 10/02/2013 6:21:07 AM PDT by linn37
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