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WH Directly Responsible?
10/2/13 | Originalbuckeye

Posted on 10/02/2013 8:45:42 AM PDT by originalbuckeye

Just heard on the radio that the WH may be directly responsible for the closing and barricading of the open air National Monuments. Inquiries to the Dept of the Interior, etc, were intentionally vague.


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This Admin assumes that the Republicans will be solely blamed for all the pain. The Media will try to help that happen. Republicans need to get in front of the cameras and tell the public the truth. The Media will try to block them. Stand up for We the People, Republicans!
1 posted on 10/02/2013 8:45:43 AM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: originalbuckeye

Shouldn’t McConnell be over at the Mall helping to explain why Zer0 has to “Tear This Wall Down!”?


2 posted on 10/02/2013 8:47:33 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: originalbuckeye

According to Stephen Hayes its been confirmed.

Twitchy thread

http://twitchy.com/2013/10/02/barry-cades-confirmed-park-service-says-obama-admin-ordered-closure-of-world-war-ii-memorial/?utm_source=autotweet&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=twitter


3 posted on 10/02/2013 8:47:57 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Paladin2

McConnell will probably be going to the white house with Boehner.


4 posted on 10/02/2013 8:48:59 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: originalbuckeye
Barrycades
5 posted on 10/02/2013 8:50:24 AM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: originalbuckeye

The Republicans have been dealt a strong hand, and the upcoming debt ceiling will make it even stronger. They need to ‘manage the message’ and stand firm. They can actually win this battle IMO.


6 posted on 10/02/2013 8:50:42 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: originalbuckeye
From this morning:


7 posted on 10/02/2013 8:51:06 AM PDT by 11th_VA (I want a president who won't enforce tax laws ...)
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To: cripplecreek

Saul Lewinsky tactic.


8 posted on 10/02/2013 8:51:18 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: originalbuckeye

Does a monkey hurl banana peels?

Barry wants as much FRICTION as possible..evidently


9 posted on 10/02/2013 8:51:56 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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To: originalbuckeye

They will try to help him?

I’ve spoken with people who were rickets for hours at Cruz’s speech who asked me yesterday why is Ted Cruz shutting down the government like this?

Who’s going to get out front? Boehner? How? By leaking via email that he loves obamacare and is working hard behind the scenes to exempt his staff from it?

We’ll be lucky if the MSM doesn’t find a WWII vet storming the barricade shaking his fist in rage against Ted Cruz for making things bad for our beloved Obama


10 posted on 10/02/2013 8:52:08 AM PDT by stanne
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To: originalbuckeye

Were ALL the open-air memorials shut down and surrounded by fences? (Wash, Lincoln, Korean War, Viet Nam Wall, etc?!?!?!?!)


11 posted on 10/02/2013 8:53:37 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: Starboard

What if they don’t want to win?


12 posted on 10/02/2013 8:54:18 AM PDT by stanne
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To: Starboard

“The Republicans have been dealt a strong hand, and the upcoming debt ceiling will make it even stronger. They need to ‘manage the message’ and stand firm. They can actually win this battle IMO.”

since the msm will vilify the gop no matter what, I still can’t figure out why they would worry about how they are potrayed.


14 posted on 10/02/2013 8:55:02 AM PDT by willywill
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To: originalbuckeye

JOHN HAS A LONG MUSTACHE

JOHN HAS A LONG MUSTACHE


15 posted on 10/02/2013 8:55:10 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Henceforth, the Office of the President shall be known as IMPOTUS)
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To: Paladin2
Shouldn’t McConnell be over at the Mall helping to explain why Zer0 has to “Tear This Wall Down!”?

That's a great idea, and you point out one of the Republicans' biggest weaknesses--they don't take advantage of good PR to advance their agenda.

16 posted on 10/02/2013 8:57:24 AM PDT by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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To: originalbuckeye
The GOP is creating a DISASTER of a shut down.

They should be on EVERY camera and on EVERY network. They need to explain...in detail...why they are doing what they are doing and how the Obama administration is violating the law by giving out exemptions and changing the time-lines.

And they have also backed themselves into a corner: They can't fold now because it will be the dems who are pointing out that all of this was for nothing.

They are not making the case to the American people. They aren't out there saying that they are just doing what the American people want because most hate this law. They also need to be out there describing to EVERYONE...and addressing Harry Reid...about the Tea Party...and explain that they do not want NO government...but they want LIMITED FEDERAL government (WHICH IS A CONSTITUTIONAL GOVERNMENT) and more responsibility at the state and local level. They need to make it clear that the only true anarchists out there are OWS...and that the true anarchists are lefties.

They're blowing it.

17 posted on 10/02/2013 8:57:59 AM PDT by NELSON111
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To: stanne

We will find out very soon if that’s the case. The Tea Party will oust the lot of them.


18 posted on 10/02/2013 8:58:20 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Starboard
The Republicans have been dealt a strong hand,....

And dealt a strong hand in this game, the Republican leadership folds once again.

How Bonehead and the Turtle became Republican Party leadership is hard to imagine.

I'll never forget that we once gave them control of the House, the Senate, the Presidency and a majority on the Supreme court. And what did they do with that immense power?

Nothing! Divested themselves of it as quickly as they could.

19 posted on 10/02/2013 9:00:03 AM PDT by sjmjax (HE)
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To: SERKIT

What about that MLK is he closed too?


20 posted on 10/02/2013 9:01:28 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom ;Sarcasm is my bidness)
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To: Starboard

The barricades, the email leaks. Harry and Barry are playing with fire and they know how to


21 posted on 10/02/2013 9:03:02 AM PDT by stanne
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To: al baby
The Architectural Design for the Soetoro Memorial.

This will be closed, too.
22 posted on 10/02/2013 9:07:54 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: originalbuckeye

Of course the WH is responsible. The narcissist is just throwing one of his tantrums.


23 posted on 10/02/2013 9:09:37 AM PDT by Old Yeller (Who am I to judge homosexuals? That's what the Tony Awards are for.)
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To: cripplecreek

I don’t think the masses understand the significance of this, so the majority say, “Of course they’re closed, the govt is shut down.”

These are open-air memorials open 24/7 without full time park ranger presence. At least the Lincoln Memorial. All these tweets do no good if this isn’t brought to the public’s attention.


24 posted on 10/02/2013 9:09:40 AM PDT by Chaguito
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To: al baby

The goonies have shut a great deal down..

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/national-mall-visitors-may-face-barricades-instead-of-welcomes/2013/09/30/8935c22e-29ec-11e3-b139-029811dbb57f_story.html


25 posted on 10/02/2013 9:09:56 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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To: MeshugeMikey
Does a monkey hurl banana peels?

Hey! You can't say that!!! Monkeys fling their feces.
26 posted on 10/02/2013 9:10:49 AM PDT by Old Yeller (Who am I to judge homosexuals? That's what the Tony Awards are for.)
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To: originalbuckeye

Costs more to barricade than to keep open?


27 posted on 10/02/2013 9:11:04 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Chaguito
From before the website was closed.

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Backed up by White House Ransom demands

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28 posted on 10/02/2013 9:13:36 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: NELSON111
They should be on EVERY camera and on EVERY network

lol. The MSM won't allow that

29 posted on 10/02/2013 9:13:51 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL

That’s like locking the gate to the baseball stadium on purpose so the kids can’t play ball. Another in a endless series of manipulations by THE FOREIGNER and his ANTI AMERICAN REGIME showing how he feels about the COLONISTS U.S.


30 posted on 10/02/2013 9:15:26 AM PDT by spawn44 (moo)
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To: cripplecreek
That is awesome - a shot across the bow; I'm ready to 'Muster on the Mall'
31 posted on 10/02/2013 9:15:48 AM PDT by 11th_VA (I want a president who won't enforce tax laws ...)
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To: NELSON111
They need to make it clear that the only true anarchists out there are OWS...and that the true anarchists are lefties.

Hey, just because I think the federal government is in excess of 95% of being unconstitutional and that we ought to abolish any agency that isn't (a) directly permitted by the Constitution, or (b) investigates/enforces crimes specified by the Constitution does not mean I'm an anarchist.

Sure, we'd be left with a federal government consisting pretty much only of the following:

  1. Post Office
  2. DOT — though restricted to little more than creating/maintaining roadways.
  3. IRS — Unless you're willing to argue [and win] the 16th Amendment was never ratified.
  4. Secret Service — though stripped of body-guard duties, focusing solely on counterfeiting.
  5. Army & Navy — Marines are Navy; Air Force would have to be (a) abolished, (b) re-absorbed into the Army, or (c) ceded to the States.
Hm, that's all that I can think of off the top of my head; but desiring such a stripped-down federal government doesn't make me an anarchist.
32 posted on 10/02/2013 9:16:36 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: 11th_VA

DAMN THE BARRY-CADES, FULL STEAM AHEAD!


33 posted on 10/02/2013 9:17:54 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: NELSON111

they can talk all they want, and they have been, but the snippets are not being played by the MSM... they are covering the Prez only, in regards to 1 liners I’m hearing on TV and radio..

Prez has entire MSM media behind him..most people aren’t even paying attention, other than these snappy little one lines coming from Reid and Zero.

I work with 80 people and most are just spewing talking points from what they are hearing.


34 posted on 10/02/2013 9:21:12 AM PDT by Chuzzlewit
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To: Chuzzlewit
True that. I was listening to the radio this morning and an older gentleman called in...and you could tell he was white...and used the word "anarchy."

I was thinking: How sad is it that this man is so clueless. Must be a union member.

35 posted on 10/02/2013 9:25:22 AM PDT by NELSON111
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They should be on EVERY camera and on EVERY network. They need to explain...in detail...

Exactly..if you're gonna be bold, be very bold.
36 posted on 10/02/2013 9:40:56 AM PDT by ratzoe (damn, I miss Barbara Olson)
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To: NELSON111
They should be on EVERY camera and on EVERY network.

And how is that accomplished when every network is carrying water for Obama?

37 posted on 10/02/2013 9:43:10 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (So Obama "inherited" a mess? Firemen "inherit" messes too. Ever see one put gasoline on it?)
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To: originalbuckeye
They wanted a photo op of those vets outside the WWII memorial. They didn't count on (because they are clueless) that the vets would ignore the yellow tape. It's an outdoor memorial. How does it close? You might as well right off the momunents in Battery Park in Lower Manhattan.

Becuase of the shutdown, OMB went out and erected Barry-cades, and exempted Park police so they could patrol to keep people away from a free outdoor memorial. Backfired.

and now Barry threatens to veto Parks and Vets legislations because he hates old people and vets and parks.

38 posted on 10/02/2013 9:47:17 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: originalbuckeye

The reflecting pool filters are off? Ooooooh, that’s going still soon.


39 posted on 10/02/2013 9:51:07 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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The question MUST be asked, “where did the government get funding to erect the barricades which never existed before, and patrol these monuments to ensure they’re ‘sequestered?’”

Mark


40 posted on 10/02/2013 10:37:15 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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Are Barky & the leftists going to shut down the Interstate highways system? How about “Federal Express,” after all, it has the word “federal” in the name?

Mark


41 posted on 10/02/2013 10:38:48 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
>>>.And how is that accomplished when every network is carrying water for Obama?

I can tell you how....and here it is: Every camera in the world was waiting for the Speaker and Reid/Pelosi to come out and speak after the meeting at the White House. Boehner had PRIME TIME COVERAGE...and he wrapped it up in a minute or two...not really leveling any damaging charge except they won't negotiate. Then Reid/Pelosi did a TAG team for 10 minutes. They roasted the GOP with lies.

Now...you and I get it...but for the average American out there, the dems just got 10+ minutes of prime time filibuster. Boehner could have done that. He could have explained ALL of this in a nice 10 minute speech...and could have spoken so long that the average American would have turned it off...WHICH WOULD HAVE LED TO THEM NOT HEARING PELOSI/REID.

But NO. He played nice....talked for a minute...then let the dems slam him for 10. That's NOT how its accomplished. He had prime time...uncensored coverage....and HE WALKED AWAY FROM IT.

42 posted on 10/02/2013 4:28:20 PM PDT by NELSON111
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To: NELSON111

bump


43 posted on 10/02/2013 4:30:04 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: NELSON111

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44 posted on 10/02/2013 4:30:04 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: NELSON111

I saw the replays. Boehner’s short sweet reply sounded factual and professional while Dingy and the Shrew looked unhinged trying to spin this thing their way. Know why the left is trying so hard to spin this? They know nothing will happen just like the sequester.


45 posted on 10/02/2013 4:30:43 PM PDT by ez (Muslims do not play well with others.)
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To: NELSON111

Just saw a replay.,,

Boehner “I would hope that my friends on the left would listen to the American people and sit down and have serious discussions on ending this.

Reid “One thing we made clear, we will absolutely not move on Obamacare.”

Checkmate Boehner.


46 posted on 10/02/2013 4:33:07 PM PDT by ez (Muslims do not play well with others.)
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To: ez
But that's my point. We have the facts on our side. The Speaker had the camera's undivided attention. He could have laid out the facts...and since he already knew the DNC talking points...he could have disarmed them ahead of time so that anyone watching it would have said "Oh yeah...he said they would say that."

He didn't. And you must remember, you are looking at this with your bias and you see it a certain way and that's why the dems look unhinged. This is where the GOP fails. They forget you have to frame the debate for the low income voter....and to do that takes time.

This was a BIGTIME missed opportunity. Yeah...you get it cause you are following the discussion...but the average idiot out there needs to be lead to a decision.

47 posted on 10/02/2013 4:37:48 PM PDT by NELSON111
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>>>Checkmate Boehner.

Yeah....LOL...sure. Keep on thinking that....and expect the average American out there to get it.

You are giving WAY to much credit to the LIV's out there...the same people who put Obama back in office...and that's our mistake: We think that THEY think like us. They don't.

48 posted on 10/02/2013 4:41:11 PM PDT by NELSON111
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To: NELSON111

Well I think the flaw in their position is their “We will not negotiate.”

Since brevity is the soul of wit, I think Boehner hit it just right. He hit them for refusing to compromise, which is what people want.

Reid and Pelosi looked like two cats trying to scramble onto a rowboat with all the spin. Reid actually said he would not compromise.

We just see it different. Tomorrow will tell.


49 posted on 10/02/2013 4:42:28 PM PDT by ez (Muslims do not play well with others.)
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To: ez
I'm not saying I disagree with you....I get it. But what I am saying is the average American isn't you or me.

And what I am saying is he had a prime time opportunity to lay out the reason for this...and explain it. He should have explained why they were doing this...the exact impacts of Obummercare...and exactly why its important.

Look...I'm a preacher. I know that only a few things that I say will actually go home with the congregation. That's why I repeat them...so they will stick. When dealing with the public...you have to reiterate your points. You aren't lecturing a bunch of college students who are expected to take notes and review.

50 posted on 10/02/2013 4:48:46 PM PDT by NELSON111
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