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New Republic's Advice to Obama: Roll in the Tanks and Blow Up 'Intransigent' Congress
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Posted on 10/02/2013 9:14:15 AM PDT by chessplayer

On Tuesday, Julia Ioffe, senior editor for the liberal New Republic publication, all but suggested that President Obama needed to use military force against Tea Party conservatives in Congress. Ioffe likened the current federal government shutdown to the 1993 constitutional crisis in Russia, where then-President Boris Yeltsin ultimately ended the impasse by dissolving the parliament, and had tanks shell the legislative body's "White House".

The writer asserted that both the "old Soviet conservatives" in Russia 20 years ago and the Tea Party representatives in the House were "intransigent, bull-headed faction[s]".


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bhofascism; communism; democrats; govtabuse; govtshutdown; ioffe; juliaioffe; liberalfascism; liberalviolence; newrepublic; obama; obamagraphic; outofcontrol; teaparty
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Coming right out into the open and advocating military suppression of any opposition to the Dear Leader.
1 posted on 10/02/2013 9:14:15 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

I’m sure that little Julia twit would be happy to see gulags in America.


2 posted on 10/02/2013 9:16:36 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: chessplayer

Go ahead. Call out the military. Surround congress. Then look behind you.


3 posted on 10/02/2013 9:16:46 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: chessplayer

That would be a really bad idea!


4 posted on 10/02/2013 9:17:03 AM PDT by bayliving
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To: NormsRevenge

If that happened Ms Julia will be one of those found “decorating” a lamp post


5 posted on 10/02/2013 9:20:50 AM PDT by clamper1797 (Evil WILL flourish when good men WILL not act)
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To: muir_redwoods

Somebody posted on another thread that essentially, only military on active duty are funded now and that states have no National Guard units or anything else at the moment.


6 posted on 10/02/2013 9:22:04 AM PDT by livius
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To: chessplayer
Happened before with the Bonus Army march of 1932. Four dead, over 1000 injured.

Freedom of speech? Freedom of assembly?
"Shut up", they explained.

7 posted on 10/02/2013 9:22:59 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (21st century. I'm not a fan.)
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To: chessplayer

This is disgraceful. Why do the people in the media and DC hate average Americans so much?


8 posted on 10/02/2013 9:23:00 AM PDT by livius
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To: livius

Somebody posted on another thread that essentially, only military on active duty are funded now and that states have no National Guard units or anything else at the moment.


I’m sure they could drum some up quick enough...


9 posted on 10/02/2013 9:24:02 AM PDT by KittenClaws ( You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: livius

There’s still the militia; the whole of the population in Madison’s words


10 posted on 10/02/2013 9:25:55 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: chessplayer

Hey- it worked at Waco.


11 posted on 10/02/2013 9:30:08 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (Obama phones= Bread and circuits.)
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To: chessplayer

It becomes more difficult during these times to NOT attempt to match the hysteria of the ‘Progressives’.


12 posted on 10/02/2013 9:34:02 AM PDT by griswold3 (Post-Christian America is living on borrowed moral heritage)
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To: muir_redwoods

True. I think we saw that at the WWII memorial today.


13 posted on 10/02/2013 9:37:12 AM PDT by livius
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To: chessplayer

14 posted on 10/02/2013 9:38:25 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Doing the same thing and expecting different results is called software engineering.)
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To: chessplayer

“”Julia Ioffe, senior editor for the liberal New Republic publication, all but suggested that President Obama needed to use military force against Tea Party conservatives in Congress. “”

Really?

Why?

The TEA Party “is faiding fast!”

According to this it has been for years now...

11 December 2012
Out of Step with America, Tea Party Power Fading
http://www.nonprofitquarterly.org/policysocial-context/21482-out-of-step-with-america-tea-party-power-fading.html

November 29, 2011
Buyer’s remorse? Poll shows tea party support fading
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/nov/29/news/la-pn-tea-party-poll-20111129

August 12, 2011
Tea party fortunes are fading even as its star Michele Bachmann shines
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2011/0812/Tea-party-fortunes-are-fading-even-as-its-star-Michele-Bachmann-shines

April 17, 2012
The once formidable Tea party is fading fast
http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/americas-political-pulse/2012/apr/17/once-formidable-tea-party-fading-fast/

June 21, 2013
Tea party influence on immigration reform is ‘weaker than ever’
http://www.voxxi.com/tea-party-weaker-immigration-reform/

April 22, 2012
Is the tea party still relevant?
http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2012-04-22/politics/35452164_1_tea-party-express-signs-tea-sal-russo

January 23, 2013
Did A Fading Tea Party Lead Boehner To Abandon Spending Cuts For Debt Ceiling Increase?
http://www.ibtimes.com/did-fading-tea-party-lead-boehner-abandon-spending-cuts-debt-ceiling-increase-1034004

August 14, 2011
DNC: ‘Terrorist’ Tea Party Clout Fading Fast
http://sweetness-light.com/archive/dnc-terrorist-tea-party-clout-fading-fast#.UkxKq721b1s

Humm... the only thing I see faiding is the ink in the older headlines.


15 posted on 10/02/2013 9:38:41 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: chessplayer

300,000,000+ guns in private hands.

Make my day.


16 posted on 10/02/2013 9:40:14 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (I REFUSE!)
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To: livius
states have no National Guard units or anything else at the moment.

I can confirm that my nephew's NG drill this coming weekend was cancelled w/ reason being due to the shutdown.

17 posted on 10/02/2013 9:41:47 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (If govmt is stockpiling guns, ammo, food, & meds, don't you think it's a good idea to do the same?)
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To: livius
"This is disgraceful. Why do the people in the media and DC hate average Americans so much?

It's because they're nothing like average Americans. I spent many years working in the belly of the Beast (DC). I can assure you, they view life outside the D.C. beltway as distant, foreign, and vaguely threatening; the people of "flyover country" as backward, unsophisticated provincials. In short, they would not lose a moment of sleep should they order us to the gas chambers.
18 posted on 10/02/2013 9:42:45 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: chessplayer

Tiananmen Square, American style. How tolerant of the left.


19 posted on 10/02/2013 9:45:25 AM PDT by dragonblustar
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To: ClearCase_guy
"Four dead, over 1000 injured.

BS
Fifty-five veterans were injured and 135 arrested.

On a humorous note

During the military operation, Major Dwight D. Eisenhower, later the 34th President of the United States, served as one of MacArthur's junior aides. Believing it wrong for the Army's highest-ranking officer to lead an action against fellow American war veterans, he strongly advised MacArthur against taking any public role: "I told that dumb son-of-a-bitch not to go down there," he said later. "I told him it was no place for the Chief of Staff." Despite his misgivings, Eisenhower later wrote the Army's official incident report which endorsed MacArthur's conduct.

From wiki.

20 posted on 10/02/2013 9:52:16 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: muir_redwoods

AMEN!!!!


21 posted on 10/02/2013 9:59:14 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 (Get the USA out of the UN then get the UN out of the USA; send bamaboy back to Kenya ASAP!!!!)
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To: TLI

If “OBAMACARE SUBSIDY HEALTH INSURANCE TAX,” aka OSHIT, is so popular, then why isn’t Mr. Michelle Obama enrolled?

This is enrollment day number two, Barry: tick-tock - - -


22 posted on 10/02/2013 9:59:56 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Marxist Obama'care' Insurance violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: jpsb

What’s with the BS? You quote from wikipedia. So do I. Link is below, table on the right hand side lists casualties.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonus_army


23 posted on 10/02/2013 10:03:39 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (21st century. I'm not a fan.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
"This so-called Bonus Army gathered at the Capital Building on the 17th of June as the Senate was prepared to vote on a bill that had already been passed by the House of Representatives and that would have moved forward the time when the veterans could receive their cash bonuses. But the Senate blocked the bill. Many of the marchers then refused to leave a federal construction site. A fight broke out with police, resulting in casualties on both sides. It was at this point that President Herbert Hoover ordered federal troops armed with unsheathed bayonets and tear gas, under the overall command of General Douglas MacArthur, to repel the protestors.

DC police got into a brawl with the marchers, not the federal government. It was in response to that brawl that the feds got involved.

24 posted on 10/02/2013 10:15:45 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: livius

That would be wrong. The state national guard only belongs to the fed when it’s activated for that purpose. Otherwise, it’s at the direction of the governor of the state, who can call it out, but who also has to pay for it.


25 posted on 10/02/2013 10:17:17 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: chessplayer

The writer asserted that both the “old Soviet conservatives” in Russia 20 years ago and the Tea Party representatives in the House were “intransigent, bull-headed faction[s]”.

The Dumbass writer should have gone back another 80 years in Soviet History...

The Tea Party is Anti-Leninists....


26 posted on 10/02/2013 10:22:05 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: chessplayer

Sit back and noodle on this comment and others like it.

When sycophants email, tweet, call out their beloved gods what tends to happen?

Let’s say I’m a huge LeBron James fan, or a Jimmie Johnson fan or whatever - it doesn’t matter which example - and I write something for public consumption regarding or to them - typically I’m writing what my idol wants to hear in some way shape or form. LeBron you are the greatest, you’re better than Michael, you’re better than Kobe. I’m not a racing fan so I can’t come up with an on target Jimmie Johnson example but you see where I’m going.

Sycophants tend to echo what they think their gods and idols want to hear. The thoughts and impulse don’t arise out of a vacuum. Nobody told George Bush or even Clinton to do this.

I think this speaks volumes and the message is not pretty.


27 posted on 10/02/2013 10:22:55 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: chessplayer

He3y, it’s what banana-republic dictators and wannabes do...seems totally appropriate.


28 posted on 10/02/2013 10:23:03 AM PDT by gogeo (I didn't leave the Republican Party, it left me.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Happened before with the Bonus Army march of 1932. Four dead, over 1000 injured.
Freedom of speech? Freedom of assembly?

“Shut up”, they explained.

Difference between now and then... It sometimes took days for the news to reach the rest of the country...

Thank You Al Gore for the internet! :P


29 posted on 10/02/2013 10:23:12 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: clamper1797

I think she thinks she would be protected. LOL


30 posted on 10/02/2013 10:26:41 AM PDT by dforest
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To: chessplayer

Bring it!!


31 posted on 10/02/2013 10:29:16 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: xzins

Perhaps some governors need to make sure that the commanders of the NG units of their state understand they answer to the governor not the feds and if and when they are called out to put the boot of the feds on that states citizens throat their boss is in the governors mansion not in the White House.


32 posted on 10/02/2013 10:31:06 AM PDT by sarge83
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To: sarge83

I like the citizen soldiers in the national guard.

And I do think they’d be far less likely to disobey an illegal order to fire on Americans. They are us....living and working with us every day.

Prior to the pink swastika, I had lots of faith in the active duty soldiers.

But when an ignorant battalion commander in the famed 101st Airborne division emails his troops and tells them to be alarmed with anti-gay groups like the Family Research Council, American Family Association, and, believe it or not, Focus on the Family was in that email, then I don’t know who to trust on the active duty side.


33 posted on 10/02/2013 10:39:44 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: sarge83

far less likely to OBEY an illegal order:

Sorry, Correction


34 posted on 10/02/2013 10:40:44 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: GraceG

This is quite different from the Bonus Army. The Bonus Army were WWI veterans asking for a post-service pay ‘bonus’ from the Fed. government during economic hardship. A post service pay bonus was not legal or authorized. It was a thinly veiled sit-in-for-pay guised in the cloak of patriotism. They wanted to get paid above their pensions or severance.


35 posted on 10/02/2013 10:41:03 AM PDT by Justa
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To: muir_redwoods

These nitwits are getting closer and closer to being in charge—we all need to be fully prepared. And by these nitwits, I mean those who are willing and want to actually use force, not legislation.


36 posted on 10/02/2013 10:46:09 AM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: chessplayer

Replace obama, Reid and Boehner would be a better idea.


37 posted on 10/02/2013 10:47:37 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: jpsb

During the military operation, Major Dwight D. Eisenhower, later the 34th President of the United States, served as one of MacArthur’s junior aides. Believing it wrong for the Army’s highest-ranking officer to lead an action against fellow American war veterans, he strongly advised MacArthur against taking any public role: “I told that dumb son-of-a-bitch not to go down there,” he said later. “I told him it was no place for the Chief of Staff.” Despite his misgivings, Eisenhower later wrote the Army’s official incident report which endorsed MacArthur’s conduct.


Yup. Screw Eisenhower, too.


38 posted on 10/02/2013 10:50:34 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: xzins
"I like the citizen soldiers in the national guard. And I do think they’d be far less likely to disobey an illegal order to fire on Americans. They are us....living and working with us every day."

Unfortunately, they have an effective workaround for that. You won't be facing local boys. NG units will be told to stand down. They will be replaced with U.S. Army units cloaked as NG.
39 posted on 10/02/2013 11:02:56 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: chessplayer

I really feel it necessary to point out that the name of the building that Yeltsin’s tanks fired on is.... The White House.


40 posted on 10/02/2013 11:37:11 AM PDT by Hessian (Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.)
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To: Justa

I thought that the WWI vets had been promised a bonus by fedgov.


41 posted on 10/02/2013 11:43:44 AM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: chessplayer
I coined the phrase 20+ years ago: "Scratch a liberal, find a fascist."

They're hiding it less and less these days.

Can a decent person alwo be a Democrat? Democrats are either dupes or con men. If you know a Democrat, ask them if they believe the Democrat line? If yes, they're a dupe. If no and they profit from the lies, they're con men.

42 posted on 10/02/2013 11:51:05 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (Obama is an historic President. He's America's first 'Dear Leader' President.)
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To: xzins

The state/national guard aren’t what you need to worry about. The cops manning the speed traps and keeping the dunkin’ donuts safe for democracy will be the ones doing the raids, roundups and blockades.


43 posted on 10/02/2013 11:58:51 AM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: SVTCobra03

I had to read up on it. Their bonus was a bond, with compound interest (!!) to be paid in 1945. They wanted redemption in 1932. That bond was a pretty sweet deal, never to be repeated, but one can’t live on promises.

Congress eventually gave them their early redemptions for the ‘it’s my money and I want it NOW’ crowd which lost out on over a decade of compound interest. But yeah, they were asking for something extraordinary when most everyone was broke. Quite different situation here. The WWII vets PAID for the memorial in addition to their service!


44 posted on 10/02/2013 12:10:34 PM PDT by Justa
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To: chessplayer

Exactly what Uncle Joe Stalin would have done.


45 posted on 10/02/2013 12:32:32 PM PDT by Renkluaf
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To: chessplayer

Time to contact every soldier you know. Ask them one simple question: “Will you shoot your own mother if Obama orders you to?”

Obama’s Communist minions might be quite surprised to find out which way those rifles are pointing.


46 posted on 10/02/2013 12:34:11 PM PDT by Lexington Green (2012 - It wasn't an election. It was a coup d'etat.)
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To: livius
Somebody posted on another thread that essentially, only military on active duty are funded now and that states have no National Guard units or anything else at the moment.

When Obama makes his last gasp totalitarian grab, he will first take every military base in America with his Secret Police Forces (DHS police, etc.). He cannot trust loyal Americans in the military and their bases are setup to be easily overrun. Just take over the base armories by executive order. IMHO.

47 posted on 10/02/2013 12:35:54 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: muir_redwoods

Yep, that was my first thought -

let’s get this out in the open instead of letting them destroy our country under the cover of legitimacy.


48 posted on 10/02/2013 12:36:56 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: livius

Ever heard of Volunteer Regiments? The Stonewall Brigade would like to add the capture of Washington to it’s battle flag and they are just a short drive away.


49 posted on 10/02/2013 2:04:48 PM PDT by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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To: justa-hairyape

20 years ago that might have worked, now there are millions of AR-15, AK-47, SKS and Mosin Nagants out there in public hands. Also, those same people who bought them also bought a crap load of cheap surplus ammo to go with them.


50 posted on 10/02/2013 2:10:41 PM PDT by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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