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Cops: Jehovah's Witnesses Faced Bullet Barrage
The Smoking Gun ^ | October 1, 2013

Posted on 10/02/2013 9:59:25 AM PDT by EveningStar

Incensed that two Jehovah's Witnesses approached him in the front yard of his home, an Arkansas man allegedly had his wife retrieve his 9mm handgun from the residence and then fired 19 rounds at the pair’s vehicle, police report.

John Baldwin, 35, was arrested for felony aggravated assault following the incident Saturday afternoon outside his Centerton home.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Arkansas
KEYWORDS: jehovahswitnesses
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To: EveningStar

There’s nothing like a doorman building. No pests admitted. The doorman keeps a baseball bat under the desk for hard cases.


41 posted on 10/02/2013 10:28:11 AM PDT by proxy_user
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To: EveningStar

THe witnesses are no enemy, and thus friends, however I have nothing to talk about with them:

1. THey dont believe Jesus is GOd
2. their peace ganhdi like approach is depressing and demoralizing , and although it makes them good people, what comes after is their clap trap on their religion that I simply cannot deal with.

In other words I find no cooperation from them and they thus cannot find cooperation in me. Funny how the world is great so long all do what Jesus said to do until Jesus comes and says I did it, and then every thing is getting split by that sword.


42 posted on 10/02/2013 10:30:17 AM PDT by lavaroise
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

That is one nice M1


43 posted on 10/02/2013 10:31:42 AM PDT by lavaroise
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To: AppyPappy

While I don’t agree with their religion choice, I’ve got to admire folks that will bicycle in the Houston area summer heat to spread their view of God. My conversations with them have always been polite.


44 posted on 10/02/2013 10:31:46 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: EveningStar
"...an Arkansas man allegedly had his wife retrieve his 9mm handgun from the residence and then fired 19 rounds at the pair’s vehicle"

This was completely uneccessary. The response should be:
"You're just in time...come on in, it's gun-cleaning day. Can I get you a beer?"

45 posted on 10/02/2013 10:34:26 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: OldNavyVet
Religious nuts can drive you nuts, and free people are entitled to defend thenselves    ...from people who are driving away from you?
46 posted on 10/02/2013 10:37:50 AM PDT by FreedomOfExpression
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To: forgotten man
Did that once in a towel... Told them they'd "interrupted" something that the Wife and I were doing and that if they insisted on preaching at me that they'd have to join in if they wanted to continue said preaching.

They left.


47 posted on 10/02/2013 10:42:37 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: EveningStar

Naw you can’t be shooting at JW’s...that’s totally bogus.


48 posted on 10/02/2013 10:47:54 AM PDT by exPBRrat
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To: RBW in PA
Good for him, these people don’t know how to take no for an answer and keep coming back.

You bet, because it makes so much sense to shoot at someone after they ask if you'd like to convert to their religion, you say "No", they apologize for taking your time, and start driving away.

Do you feel the same way about Girl Scouts selling cookies door-to-door? They can be pretty persistent, after all.

49 posted on 10/02/2013 10:49:31 AM PDT by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: OldNavyVet
Religious nuts can drive you nuts, and free people are entitled to defend thenselves.

The few times I've had such people at my door, I simply tell them I'm an atheist and not interested. Their reaction is invariably a polite one.

I certainly didn't feel the need to "defend" myself by shooting at them.

50 posted on 10/02/2013 10:55:15 AM PDT by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: EveningStar

This guy is going to jail for his little tantrum. Not worth it however you feel about JWS.


51 posted on 10/02/2013 10:59:51 AM PDT by Bayan
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To: GilesB

The voice of reason is mostly missing on this thread, thanks for yours, wow. I just politely turn these people away, I’ve never had a problem. From the responses here one would think they’d wandered into some lefty religious hating blog.


52 posted on 10/02/2013 11:03:07 AM PDT by wrencher
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To: EveningStar

idiot

if you don’t want to politely say you’re not interested, you can say the same thing, when you know’s it’s them, by just not answering the door - it works; the local JW folks DO get the “don’t bother THAT house” message after but a few attempts

I have always found them - JWers - less confrontational than the zealots who represented Campus Crusade for Christ on California beaches when I was growing up. Those were some folks who didn’t know the meaning of no.

The same is true in NYC subways today. The JWers will have a table set up somewhere, stand behind it and hold up a tract for you to see. Super evangelical Christians will walk along and confront you as you walk along and try to get you to stop and engage in conversation with them.


53 posted on 10/02/2013 11:04:25 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: EveningStar

That’s a criminal waste of ammo. A water hose would probably work fine. ;-)


54 posted on 10/02/2013 11:07:20 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: EveningStar

Wow! Centerton! That’s not fr from here!

I’ve had them come here. I invite them in, then surprise them by answering all their questions by SCRIPTURE (KJV).
I like it when it is hot outside and my AC is off. Every time they try to leave, I ask questions that make them nervous and keep them in the heat for about another 20 minutes.

When they escape, er, leave, they rarely come back!

Same for mormons.


55 posted on 10/02/2013 11:09:13 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: EveningStar

They are annoying but they are not worth losing your 2A rights over.


56 posted on 10/02/2013 11:09:58 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (From time to time the tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: Vigilanteman
Not so sure about that. I had two JW woemn literally harass me for six months. They would show up and knock on the door weekly around 10am. There was two signs on the door. One said “Daytime Sleeper”- which I was at that time and the other “No Visitors”. They wouldn't take a polite no thanks or go away for an answer. Finally I answered the door buck naked one time and that ended it.They were downright pushy and rude.
57 posted on 10/02/2013 11:10:07 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: EveningStar
My dad has been a Southern Baptist preacher for over 60 years...I send them to him.
58 posted on 10/02/2013 11:10:15 AM PDT by fungoking (Tis a pleasure to live in the Ozarks)
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To: OldNavyVet
free people are entitled to defend thenselves

Shooting someone for knocking on your door to talk about something you don't want to talk about - that's not self defense. That's evil.

59 posted on 10/02/2013 11:14:25 AM PDT by MEGoody (You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: wolfpat

***There are few enough professed Christians who know as much about their own religion.***

They are well versed in THEIR religion. About 40 years ago A Campbellite preacher visited a public school (remember those days?)and while talking to the class a young JW boy challenged him on a bible verse.

The preacher then reached into his brief case, pulled out THE GREEN PHANTOM (JW NWT bible) and the boy reached into his desk and did the same (NWT)!

They went to the verse in question, and found the two copies of the JW bible were different! The preacher has an older version, the boy had a newer version of the same.
So, it appears the verses of the NWT were changed as the doctrines changed.


60 posted on 10/02/2013 11:23:51 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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