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DA won’t charge bike assault thugs
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Posted on 10/02/2013 10:51:12 AM PDT by Blue Turtle

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To: longtermmemmory

“was the hit on the window before or after the driver ran over and paralyzed a biker?”


Are you referring to the biker who moved in front of the SUV and braked? That happens when you challenge multiple tons with a rice burner.

As a long time biker, IMO, he got what he deserved. HP greatly exceeded the IQs.


51 posted on 10/02/2013 11:38:13 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam! 969)
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To: Cribb
Looked like an accident to me.

But I guess you're right. If someone hits you, your low-life thug buddies should chase him down, break his windows, drag him from the car and beat the crap out of him in front of his wife and five year-old daughter because simply calling the cops and an ambulance is just too mellow and law-abiding.

Here's hoping you never get in an accident with thugs.

Is an /s tag really necessary here?

52 posted on 10/02/2013 11:38:23 AM PDT by apoxonu
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To: dennisw

Yes, and here’s a page from that website telling us what a wonderful family man the guy who got run over is, and about the demands for “justice for Meezee”:

http://www.heavy.com/news/2013/10/jeremiah-edwin-mieses-jay-meezee-road-rage-video/

The site you linked clearly shows a biker “brake checking” a SUV.


53 posted on 10/02/2013 11:40:02 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: Cribb
Looked like an accident to me.

But I guess you're right. If someone hits you, your low-life thug buddies should chase him down, break his windows, drag him from the car and beat the crap out of him in front of his wife and five year-old daughter because simply calling the cops and an ambulance is just too mellow and law-abiding.

Here's hoping you never get in an accident with thugs.

Is an /s tag really necessary here?

54 posted on 10/02/2013 11:40:06 AM PDT by apoxonu
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To: MrB

“They had a visual record and multiple witnesses to the black panthers standing outside of a voting place, threatening people, too.”

Yes they did——more “mob” rule.

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55 posted on 10/02/2013 11:43:11 AM PDT by Mears (Liberalism is the art ot being easily offended.)
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To: dennisw

“Chinese driver did panic and greatly injure one rider, mangling his legs. this is what set things off.”

From what I saw, the bikers were harassing the Chinese driver fist. The dumbass biker pulled in front of the SUV
and hit his brakes causing the SUV to hit his brakes
which caused one or two other dumbass bikers to run into
the rear of the SUV.
I say “dumbass bikers” because they were lucky I wasn’t
driving that SUV. I could have easily taken out most of
those punks and had the others running for their life.


56 posted on 10/02/2013 11:44:41 AM PDT by Slambat
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To: wideawake

“(10) The NYPD, thanks to the leftist crackdown on “stop and frisk” and due to criticism of the NYPD from a recent car chase in which an unlicensed driver drove on a sidewalk to evade capture and killed a 4 year old girl, no longer engages in these pursuits.”


Looks like we are on our own and as an elderly female it frightens me to death. I grew up when different rules were in play.

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57 posted on 10/02/2013 11:47:30 AM PDT by Mears (Liberalism is the art ot being easily offended.)
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To: dennisw

“I don’t believe the Chinese guy and his family were in danger at this point. “

It doesn’t matter what you think. It only matters if he believed he and his family were in danger.

“What I see is vibrant exuberant Hispanics out having a good time”

Uh, they were out for trouble after having their main ride broken up by the cops. People that ride without tags or with stolen tags, harassing motorists, riding against the flow of traffic, riding on sidewalks, speeding and doing wheelies ..... is your definition of ‘having a good time’?


58 posted on 10/02/2013 11:48:49 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TigersEye

” 200 others had already called the police about this group of “bikers” before that as well.”

Apparently the cops knew where NOT to go ...


59 posted on 10/02/2013 11:50:12 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: dennisw

“The Chinese guy -Alex Lien- went to the hospital and was released. He had minor injuries.”

Slashed in the face and chest with a knife. Yup, minor injuries./eyeroll.


60 posted on 10/02/2013 11:50:42 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: dennisw
What I see is vibrant exuberant Hispanics out having a good time and Chinese guy does not know how to take this in. I hope you know that Chinese are awful drivers at least in America. Chinese guy panicked thus paralyzing a vibrant culture bike rider (Hispanic)

I don't believe I just read that.

61 posted on 10/02/2013 11:51:49 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: South40

people are rude, drivers are lunatics, people have no manners, people push past you and can’t even hold a door.
Pregnant woman on a subway has to stand while young men sit about with feet on chairs. expensive, dirty and most of all it’s full of girlie men and liberals.

That city or state will never see my money , even if I have to drive past or through I never stop in the state to spend money.


62 posted on 10/02/2013 11:52:14 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: wideawake

Bingo!


63 posted on 10/02/2013 11:54:16 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: dennisw

“This versus biker with busted up legs”

I don’t think this should be considered at his criminal
sentencing. At lest it keeps him of a bike and will help
keep him out of more trouble when he gets out of the joint.


64 posted on 10/02/2013 11:54:39 AM PDT by Slambat
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To: longtermmemmory
was the hit on the window before or after the driver ran over and paralyzed a biker?

Before. The guy ran over the biker to get himself and his wife and child to safety.

I'd do the same thing if a bunch of bikers surrounded my vehicle in a fit of road rage.

65 posted on 10/02/2013 11:55:32 AM PDT by MEGoody (You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: jboot

I am joking around but telling the way it went down. All I know is leave whitey out of this fiasco. This was Chinese driver versus (predominantly) Hispanic bikers.

SCORE
-one crippled Hispanic rider due to Chinese dufus running him over
-Chinese guy treated at Hospital and released


66 posted on 10/02/2013 12:01:22 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: dennisw
I don’t believe the Chinese guy and his family were in danger at this point. What I see is vibrant exuberant Hispanics out having a good time

Have you ever been in the position the SUV driver was in? If so, did you feel at all threatened?

I can tell you, I would feel threatened. If they had stopped in front of me, I would have stopped ONLY if I could see all of them. If I couldn't, or if even one of them got off the bike, I'd be gone. If they got in my way, too bad for them.

67 posted on 10/02/2013 12:01:40 PM PDT by MEGoody (You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Cyber Liberty; dennisw
Pretty sure dennisw is having some fun here.

I don't think he's actually stupid.

68 posted on 10/02/2013 12:01:48 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: Blue Turtle

We do NOT know what happened prior to the start of this video. The fact we’re not being shown that indicates the bikers were out for blood.


69 posted on 10/02/2013 12:03:27 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: Beagle8U

Are you illiterate? Chinese guy released from hospital while Hispanic guy is in the hospital with legs run over by stupid skittish SUV driver


70 posted on 10/02/2013 12:03:42 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Slambat

And would be in prison


71 posted on 10/02/2013 12:04:51 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Blue Turtle

They shouldn’t have to find the riders. They should find the bikes with those tags and confiscate them, then put them through a crusher.


72 posted on 10/02/2013 12:06:18 PM PDT by Venturer ( cowardice posturing as tolerance =political correctness)
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To: wideawake

I hope you are correct. I’m with a lot of folks I’ve seen comment that if it were them, they’d have run over a lot more bikers. It’s a pretty scary situation. Yes, the SUV is much bigger, but I don’t think there was a way to outrun the bikes.

Makes me glad I live in AZ where behavior like that will have a driver testing out his shooting-while-driving skills.


73 posted on 10/02/2013 12:07:14 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: Blue Turtle
"DA won’t charge bike assault thugs"

"The last time anybody made a list of the top hundred character attributes of New Yorkers, common sense snuck in at number 79." -Douglas Adams

74 posted on 10/02/2013 12:07:49 PM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Venturer

“They shouldn’t have to find the riders. They should find the bikes with those tags and confiscate them, then put them through a crusher.”

Half the bikes did not have tags. The other half had stolen or misappropriated tags.


75 posted on 10/02/2013 12:08:16 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: wideawake

I am kind of joking but I also was telling how it it all went down...In my opinion the Chinese guy panicked in a situation I would have handled without setting off this mayhem


76 posted on 10/02/2013 12:09:07 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: TexasGator

Did you see the two quads in the video?


77 posted on 10/02/2013 12:11:10 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: dennisw

“Chinese guy released from hospital while Hispanic guy is in the hospital with legs run over by stupid skittish SUV driver”

So? Sounds fair to me. Now the biker needs to do some
time and pay restitution for the damage to the SUV and
medical expenses incurred to the “Chinese guy”.


78 posted on 10/02/2013 12:11:17 PM PDT by Slambat
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To: wideawake
Very well stated. I looked at most of the liveleak videos.

Anyone, and I mean anyone, who thinks ANY of these bikers are innocent is a disgusting human with a very low IQ. I just wish the driver had an heavily armored vehicle.

79 posted on 10/02/2013 12:13:09 PM PDT by sand88
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To: dennisw

“I am kind of joking but I also was telling how it it all went down...In my opinion the Chinese guy panicked in a situation I would have handled without setting off this mayhem”

And how would you handled a mob of gangsta bikers attacking you?


80 posted on 10/02/2013 12:13:41 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: dennisw

Nope, I’m not illiterate. I’m also not a dumbass defending a bunch of thugs that carved up and beat an innocent suv driver.


81 posted on 10/02/2013 12:18:30 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: dennisw
one crippled Hispanic rider due to Chinese dufus running him over

I wished that hispanice thug was killed.

You are disgusting taking up from criminal behavior.

Did you view the liveleak videos? I did, most of them.

These evil hispanic thugs were terrorizing hundreds of drivers.

These evil hispanic thugs were going against traffic between lanes -- terrorizing drivers.

These evil hispanic thugs were driving on sidewalks almost hitting people.

These evil hispanic thugs were running dozens of red lights.

Any one who takes up for these evil hispanic thugs deserves contempt.

If you did see the various liveleak videos and still think they are joy riding then you need your head examined.

82 posted on 10/02/2013 12:19:52 PM PDT by sand88
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To: dennisw

“In my opinion the Chinese guy panicked in a situation I would have handled without setting off this mayhem”

I doubt that. I think you would have had your ass kicked too.
Only worse. You would have tried to “negotiate” in the
beginning when you were in a secluded area. Unless you
were packing heat, they would have thumped you out and
had their way with your wife and kid. That’s just plain
dumb. If this ever happens to you, do us a favor and
practice what you preach and then, if you can, tell us
how it all turned out.


83 posted on 10/02/2013 12:21:17 PM PDT by Slambat
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To: dennisw

“with some accounts saying a black individual used his helmet to break SUV windows”

Apparently you have not watched the video of him dropping bike, dropping his helmet, picking up his helmet and smashing the window with his helmet?


84 posted on 10/02/2013 12:21:30 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

Prove to me that the SUV was being attacked early on. It was surrounded by surly bikers but was not attacked. I would have waited them out or drove skillfully and accurately out of the situation at 20 mph and then faster

I most certainly would not have run over a bikers legs like the stupid SUV driver did!!! This is what set everything off.


85 posted on 10/02/2013 12:23:30 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: TexasGator

At end of the whole affair? When Chinese guy was beaten up so severely that he was admitted then released from the hospital? Wow what injuries!!!! Wake up!


86 posted on 10/02/2013 12:26:14 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: TigersEye

In NC you cannot ride atvs on a public road and motorcycles have to be registered (license plates). NY is a strange place to say the least. No concealed weapons allowed, but you don’t have to register motor vehicles. At lest most of the ones I saw in that video were without tags.


87 posted on 10/02/2013 12:26:52 PM PDT by CodeJockey (Christian, Freeper, Tea Party Member, Bitter Clinger, Creepy White Cracker)
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To: Blue Turtle

I don’t know what caused the suv driver to hit the bike in front of him.

From the video, the motorcyclist drifts into the SUV’s lane, then he (the motorcyclist) looks back, not at the SUV that is directly behind him, but back into the lane he just left.

Then it appears he slows significantly for whatever reason and the SUV hits him.

It’s hard to say if the SUV driver hit him on purpose. If it were just he and the SUV on the road, the maybe I’d say the SUV driver should have slowed even if the biker shouldn’t have drifted into his lane.

But think about when you’re in heavy traffic with just cars on a multilane road. You’re probably concentrating on the car in front of you, and peripherally watching one or two cars in the adjoining lane. What is that, 3 to 5 objects you’re actively tracking?

When you’re surrounded with motorcycles as this SUV was, the driver then has to track nearly double the number of vehicles, and the bikes weren’t exactly flowing along with traffic so he only had to watch for the vehicles that suddenly altered speed. They were all moving around forward and back, left and right. It’s not inconceivable that the SUV driver was distracted by bikers to his left and/or right for the brief period of time it took for the bike to pull into his lane and slow down - the SUV driver may not even had time to react once he realized which target was the immediate problem.


88 posted on 10/02/2013 12:29:04 PM PDT by chrisser (Senseless legislation does nothing to solve senseless violence.)
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To: sand88
anyone, who thinks ANY of these bikers are innocent is a disgusting human with a very low I

The now-disabled biker is the son of a pastor of a small Bible congregation.

Apparently he was on FB asking for prayers for justice for his son, and a number of people commented along the lines of:

"You raised a son who stood by and cheered as a gang of thugs attacked an innocent family? He refused to come to their defense? What kind of justice was that? What kind of pastor are you?"

89 posted on 10/02/2013 12:29:37 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: Slambat

Ridiculous!! Chinese guy is out of the hospital after just an hour or two to treat superficial “injuries”. No broken bones even!!!

The hospital will send him a bill for $10 for mercurochrome


90 posted on 10/02/2013 12:30:04 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: wideawake

Thank you. Facts 1, 2 and 3 help explain why the West Side Highway appeared to be so uncharacteristically empty of traffic. The video certainly confirms a number of the bikers involved were clearing the road of additional traffic.


91 posted on 10/02/2013 12:31:49 PM PDT by wtd
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To: dennisw

“Prove to me that the SUV was being attacked early on. It was surrounded by surly bikers but was not attacked.”

Video shows it was attacked.


92 posted on 10/02/2013 12:31:52 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: wideawake

This kid is also listed as aspiring rapper...I kid you not. He is black Hispanic unlike George Zimmerman


93 posted on 10/02/2013 12:31:54 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: dennisw

“I would have waited them out or drove skillfully and accurately out of the situation at 20 mph and then faster”

Ha ha ha. That’s BS. The first thing you would have done
is crap your pants. There is no way you would have done
any different. Unless of course you are as stupid as what you
are posting. Not saying your stupid but common sense is
against you on this one but hay, bleed on.


94 posted on 10/02/2013 12:32:02 PM PDT by Slambat
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To: TexasGator

nope


95 posted on 10/02/2013 12:32:17 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: dennisw

“Prove to me that the SUV was being attacked early on.”

Prove that it wasn’t.


96 posted on 10/02/2013 12:33:50 PM PDT by Slambat
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To: Slambat

You’re crapping your pants (steaming load) just from reading this thread. But do carry on!

Why not head to NY in your SUV or AMC Pacer to engage with these vibrant bike riders? Lets us know what happens.


97 posted on 10/02/2013 12:35:23 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: dennisw

“Police, meanwhile, are zeroing in on two other suspects, including the one who slashed Lien, sending him to the hospital for stitches.”

“The video, the source said, shows the biker in the chrome helmet throwing the terrified dad to the ground and stomping on his head.”

If you read the article you would know that having your face and chest slashed with a knife, and your head stomped isn’t ‘minor injuries’!

Why are you being such a dumbass about this, are you one of the bikers?


98 posted on 10/02/2013 12:38:38 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: dennisw

“nope”

According to video and police reports. SUV had damage that was NOT caused in second attach.


99 posted on 10/02/2013 12:40:38 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Beagle8U

Don’t be stupid. The man was in and out of the hospital in two hours


100 posted on 10/02/2013 12:41:16 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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