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EPIC FAIL: Los Angeles high schools now confiscate all free iPads they gave students
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Posted on 10/02/2013 1:39:32 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

EPIC FAIL: Los Angeles high schools now confiscate all free iPads they gave students

The Daily Caller 3 hours ago

Hilariously, officials at high schools in the Los Angeles Unified School District are now taking back a couple thousand iPads a week or so after giving them to students as part of a 47-school pilot program.

The mass repossession is the latest in a series of responses by school officials to the fact that hundreds of students figured out almost immediately how to hack the security settings on their iPads. Another 71 kids ostensibly lost their iPads just as immediately. (RELATED: LA schools give every kid an iPad—what could go wrong?)

Each iPad cost the school district $700. School district officials have said that the eventual goal is to supply every kid with one of the devices as part of a technology plan that will cost $1 billion.

As of Friday, students at Westchester High School and Roosevelt High School are now bereft of their iPads, reports the Los Angeles Times. At least most of them are now bereft, anyway. A Roosevelt teacher told the Times that about one-third of the devices still remain unaccounted for.

“They carted them out of every classroom in sixth period,” Westchester senior Brian Young told The Times on Monday. “There has been no word of when they’ll be back.”

Other schools may soon follow suit and recall their students’ iPads as well.

The hacking was far from rocket science for the tech-savvy students. Bypassing the security settings imposed by school officials took no more than a few simple clicks.

Students had told the Times they were frustrated because they couldn’t surf the Internet freely or visit social media and music streaming websites.

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1 posted on 10/02/2013 1:39:32 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

There is absolutely, positively no reason to have iPads in a school.


2 posted on 10/02/2013 1:40:51 PM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Sub-Driver; Revolting cat!

Is there anything gubmint doesn’t know?!!!


3 posted on 10/02/2013 1:41:12 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Jim Noble

Catholic schools here in Indiana have used them for several years with good results. I assume they are a cost savings because these schools are always strapped for budget.

Now I fully realize they have a different level of personal responsibility and discipline for their students.


4 posted on 10/02/2013 1:42:14 PM PDT by nascarnation (Democrats control the Presidency, Senate, and Media. It's an uphill climb....)
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To: Jim Noble

You are 100% correct. You can’t even type on an iPad! How this is a learning tool is beyond me!


5 posted on 10/02/2013 1:42:19 PM PDT by clarissaexplainsitall
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To: Sub-Driver

Our private school handed some out to all high schoolers. They are facing the same issue as far as students wanting to surf, stream music, and socialize instead of school work. I am having to jump through hoops the block stuff for a proactive stand point.

Gee the Boomers and before all we had was books and I submit we have done more with technology advancements than Generation Null and Void.


6 posted on 10/02/2013 1:43:07 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Sub-Driver
Another 71 kids ostensibly lost their iPads just as immediately"

At least that tells them who the smart ones are.
7 posted on 10/02/2013 1:45:50 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: Sub-Driver

All the keyboard strokes were in Ebonics.


8 posted on 10/02/2013 1:46:27 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: Sub-Driver

This is only a semi-fail since getting the iPads into the hands of the students was only a secondary goal. The primary goal was to get the taxpayer to buy a bunch of iPads from a connected crony who could then donate back to the politicians who decided to buy the iPads in the first place. Crony and politician get fat, taxpayers get fleeced and who cares where the iPads wind up; they were only an excuse anyway.


9 posted on 10/02/2013 1:47:28 PM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Is John's moustache long enough YET?)
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To: Sub-Driver

What, no iPads for the monkeys at the zoo?


10 posted on 10/02/2013 1:48:06 PM PDT by Argus
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To: Sub-Driver

Its because the OS doesn’t support enterprise level controls. They are user controlled devices.


11 posted on 10/02/2013 1:49:59 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Paine in the Neck
"This is only a semi-fail since getting the iPads into the hands of the students was only a secondary goal. The primary goal was to get the taxpayer to buy a bunch of iPads from a connected crony who could then donate back to the politicians who decided to buy the iPads in the first place. Crony and politician get fat, taxpayers get fleeced and who cares where the iPads wind up; they were only an excuse anyway."

This.

12 posted on 10/02/2013 1:50:11 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Sub-Driver
Whoever thought this was a great idea needs to have their head examined!

Back to laptop and desktops now. something that can be locked down. Even better give everyone a dumb terminal and a keyboard and mouse. bring back the IBM dinosaur. Centralized computing is the answer.

13 posted on 10/02/2013 1:51:03 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: Jim Noble

I can see some reasoning behind it, but I can’t believe it actually got out of the small focus committee that first reviewed the idea.

There are massive problem to be overcome here.

We often talk about kids not having accountability, but the whole system has no accountability.

It seems to be utter chaos at these schools.


14 posted on 10/02/2013 1:51:55 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (This post coming to you today from behind the Camelskin Curtain. Not the Iron or Bamboo Curtain...)
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To: clarissaexplainsitall; Jim Noble

They are wonderful devices for the classroom and have too many uses to list here. Pecking is the new typing, and students can do so as quickly as proper typing. I’m all for parents buying these devices for students, but handing them out to a large number are irresponsible children is ridiculous.


15 posted on 10/02/2013 1:53:34 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: a fool in paradise

“Is there anything gubmint doesn’t know?!!!”

I think it was in 1988 when Congress passed a law that school buses had to have seats belts for the riders with an ignition interlock. So, if any student unlocked his belt the buss would stop...(Long pause.) They installed them in some unknown number of busses which sat...and sat...because every time they started moving, a student would open belt and shut them off. Stupidest thing I ever heard.

Then there was Miami that put a device on every light so that busses, fire trucks and emergency vehicles could press a button and turn the light green so they’d have priority passage. It worked for two weeks, but the devises weren’t encrypted and somebody was selling a knockoff box on the internet. There were dozens of crashes in intersections as many people decided they should have priority passage. (Too stupid for words.)


16 posted on 10/02/2013 1:53:41 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: a fool in paradise

This was predicted based on other similar programs in other schools.

But they went ahead anyway.


17 posted on 10/02/2013 1:55:09 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Resolute Conservative

We have an awful problem with just our family members! My husband is a computer network architect. “Then why can’t you keep them from playing games online and searching for music when they’re supposed to be working?!?”


18 posted on 10/02/2013 1:56:15 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("The heart of the matter is God's love. It always has been. It always will be."~Abp. Chaput)
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To: Sub-Driver

I would like to know who approved this (I’m assuming the school board), and exactly how they benefited from this decision. Sounds like someone needs to see the inside of a jail cell.


19 posted on 10/02/2013 1:56:24 PM PDT by thesharkboy (posting without reading the article since 1998)
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To: Sub-Driver

Roosevelt High has its own abortion clinic, cannot trust students with IPADs though


20 posted on 10/02/2013 1:57:11 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Jim Noble

Let me ask you this. If the cost of books and reference materials over four years were going to cost the school $2,000 dollars, would it be worth it to buy a $700 iPad and pay $500 for the electronic versions of the books?

If those iPads could then be used for electronic testing and other classroom instructional applications, would that make it an easier sale?

If this gave the teachers a way to communicate with the kids too, say to answer questions about homework without having to interrupt the class to do it, would that be helpful?

I can see some reasoning behind this. I still don’t think it’s workable.


21 posted on 10/02/2013 1:58:30 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (This post coming to you today from behind the Camelskin Curtain. Not the Iron or Bamboo Curtain...)
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To: Resolute Conservative

my niece emailed herself an MP3 on a school IPAD and it worked!


22 posted on 10/02/2013 1:58:35 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: DoughtyOne

that is insane,... $700 IPADs?

textbooks will last longer


23 posted on 10/02/2013 1:59:55 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL

LOL, seems to me part of the homework could have been to watch certain great speeches on YouTube and report on them.

The media portion could actually be a pretty good learning tool.


24 posted on 10/02/2013 2:00:24 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (This post coming to you today from behind the Camelskin Curtain. Not the Iron or Bamboo Curtain...)
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To: GeronL

Imagine the lame IT security built into the Obamacare Exchange websites.

They are prime for hackers and scammers.


25 posted on 10/02/2013 2:01:25 PM PDT by Col Frank Slade
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To: Sub-Driver

I really don’t care because it’s Kalifornia, but kids today are spoiled brats that think they are owed.
Computers in schools should be given out only to those that have great grades, good attendance and no discipline issues.
That being said, it’s all BS. Kids need to be instructed by people not machines, Teachers need to teach and not hand “education” over to the electronic babysitter.


26 posted on 10/02/2013 2:02:18 PM PDT by Farnsworth ("The people have always some champion whom they set over them and nurse into greatness...This and no)
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To: GeronL

I doubt the textbooks last more than a year or two. Don’t forget, new textbooks come out and they replace them. Kids beat them to death too.

You should see some of the kids running around with backpacks filled with books. Sure would cut down on that.

I use an iPad for note-taking at work. It’s a great tool. And if there’s something on the white-board, flip the thing and take a photo of it.


27 posted on 10/02/2013 2:03:50 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (This post coming to you today from behind the Camelskin Curtain. Not the Iron or Bamboo Curtain...)
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To: Sub-Driver

The iPads will be given out to teachers, friends, associates and a couple donations. It was all planned?


28 posted on 10/02/2013 2:05:32 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature ($1.84 - The price of a gallon of gas on Jan. 20th, 2009.)
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To: DoughtyOne

“LOL, seems to me part of the homework could have been to watch certain great speeches on YouTube and report on them.”


Nah-—it would be MLK and JFK 24/7.

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29 posted on 10/02/2013 2:07:16 PM PDT by Mears (Liberalism is the art ot being easily offended.)
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To: Farnsworth

Computers in schools should be given out only to those that have great grades, good attendance and no discipline issues.

Agreed! The only problem with this, it other kids would be taking them away.

I do think teachers need to teach, but for me that is related to actual reading, writing, and math, and not Leftist indoctrination.

As for the iPads, I don’t see that as turning education over any more than referencing a book is turning it over.

I do think the kids could benefit from the educational aspects in that they could watch real events on YouTube and the like, give reports on it.

That’s a rather amazing way to address history.


30 posted on 10/02/2013 2:07:35 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (This post coming to you today from behind the Camelskin Curtain. Not the Iron or Bamboo Curtain...)
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To: Mears

Yes..., I believe it would. LOL

The education will only be as good as the teacher, no matter what technology is used.


31 posted on 10/02/2013 2:08:28 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (This post coming to you today from behind the Camelskin Curtain. Not the Iron or Bamboo Curtain...)
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To: DoughtyOne

Youtube is blocked on the school IPAD.

“watch sppeches”?

probably very short clips these days. Attention spans of a gnat.


32 posted on 10/02/2013 2:09:31 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Black Agnes
Crony and politician get fat, taxpayers get fleeced and who cares where the iPads wind up; they were only an excuse anyway."

This.

This is what I call the Bezzle Circle. It's a mechanism that is ubiquitous in government and miriad in its variations. Most of government spending is consumed by it. The 'Rats are past masters at employing it and the GOP is too stupid to spot when it's being used to fund their downfall.

33 posted on 10/02/2013 2:12:01 PM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Is John's moustache long enough YET?)
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To: Paine in the Neck

I am of the opinion, of late, that the GOP isn’t so much concerned with stopping the bezzle circle as they are in becoming active participants.


34 posted on 10/02/2013 2:14:47 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Jim Noble
"There is absolutely, positively no reason to have iPads in a school."

EGGSACTLY Batman.

The Cheapest Kindle makes sense if you go with the Student Text eBook Plan some are using because the cost is waaaaaaay less than buying Dead Tree Media Books.

A 700 dollar iPad makes no sense whatsoever.

35 posted on 10/02/2013 2:16:40 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Tax-chick

Me too, but in a MS stack not Apple.

They are trying a new software app called Supervision that allows the teachers to see a mirror of their screens and if any are not on the app she has designated it highlights them and she hits a button and the app/webpage they have on is killed.


36 posted on 10/02/2013 2:19:58 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Sub-Driver

Auction ‘em off on eBay. Heck, if the price is low enough, I might buy one myself.


37 posted on 10/02/2013 2:24:56 PM PDT by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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To: Black Agnes
I am of the opinion, of late, that the GOP isn’t so much concerned with stopping the bezzle circle as they are in becoming active participants.

And you would be right. A classic example is the bezzle circle of the TSA scanners from which Michael Chertoff made millions.

38 posted on 10/02/2013 2:26:14 PM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Is John's moustache long enough YET?)
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To: DoughtyOne

Yes they are a good learning tool. But they should mount them into the desk and bolt them in.


39 posted on 10/02/2013 2:27:09 PM PDT by toast
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To: Sub-Driver

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!
This is just too damned funny.


40 posted on 10/02/2013 2:34:53 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: GeronL
that is insane,... $700 IPADs?

textbooks will last longer

Textbooks don't last very long, and the equivalent of hundreds of books can be viewed in digital format on an iPad. Easier for a kid to carry versus breaking their back carying heavy books.

However, those iPads will quickly depreciate and be worth maybe $25 in ten years (being generous here). The schools tend to waste money on tech purchases, and dump it for nothing in a few years. Just another way to waste taxpayer money; it's not their money so why care about it?

41 posted on 10/02/2013 2:49:10 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: clarissaexplainsitall

I type on mine without any problems. I occasionally use a wireless keyboard while camping in our Airstream and it works great.

However, I don’t believe my tax dollars should buy one for every brat in the country.


42 posted on 10/02/2013 2:49:44 PM PDT by Gator113 (The mighty Bear ate the cowardly rat. Obama must resign.)
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To: Jim Noble
FTA:

Before the draconian repossession, administrators had attempted to ban students from using the iPads off of school grounds, thus defeating the point of having the devices, which are intended as supplemental learning tools.

Duh!!! Isn't one of the main advantages of issuing iPads or similar devices to students enabling them to have their text books on those devices instead of having to cart the physical books around? Indeed one of the main savings to be generated by such devices is eliminating physical books and the costs associated wiht the physical books.

43 posted on 10/02/2013 2:51:00 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: Sub-Driver

How in the holy friggin cow can you buy something in huge quantities AND STILL PAY MORE THAN TOP LINE RETAIL?


44 posted on 10/02/2013 2:59:53 PM PDT by Cyman
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To: nascarnation
Catholic schools here in Indiana have used them for several years with good results. I assume they are a cost savings because these schools are always strapped for budget.

Thoughtful and well-designed learning software can make computers useful in education. The public school system, however, has often assumed that just their presence was a plus.

45 posted on 10/02/2013 3:19:40 PM PDT by BfloGuy (Workers and consumers are, of course, identical.)
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To: Resolute Conservative

Our problem is just at our house. I desperately wish we could do everything with pencil and paper, like we did in the 1980s when we got much better test scores than they do today. I wish eternal boiling oil on the perpetrators of ArmorGames.com and similar ilk!


46 posted on 10/02/2013 3:28:41 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("The heart of the matter is God's love. It always has been. It always will be."~Abp. Chaput)
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To: GeronL

that is insane,... $700 IPADs?

textbooks will last longer
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You are thinking logically ,, you and I would say to ourselves ... HMMM ,, Math doesn’t change .. so I can expect a math text to last 20+ years ... History doesn’t change ,, so another 20+ years , English .. yup ,, 20+ years

In that scenario , textbooks win hands down ... they don’t need to be charged , don’t crash , are 100% portable .. they’re perfect... add to that the choice of Apple .. NO REPLACEABLE BATTERIES they’re a THEFT MAGNET and they’re ABUSABLE by punks who only want to crank rap on it and chill with their Nakamichi headphones..

Now think like a school board member ... where the life of a textbook is 2 years just because the publisher added a graphic in chapter 3 and deleted a sentence in chapter 7... and they need another sale at $89/book*100,000 books...


47 posted on 10/02/2013 3:42:52 PM PDT by Neidermeyer (I used to be disgusted , now I try to be amused.)
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To: Neidermeyer

bump

how much does that publisher charge for the digital version?

I bet its still pricey


48 posted on 10/02/2013 3:44:25 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Resolute Conservative

Generation Backspace Delete and Escape


49 posted on 10/02/2013 3:45:29 PM PDT by miserare (Fire Eric Holder!)
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To: clarissaexplainsitall

shall I stop typing on my ipad. I didn’t know it was illegal.


50 posted on 10/02/2013 3:46:00 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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