Skip to comments.Sowell: Who Shut Down the Government? (great read)
Posted on 10/03/2013 11:22:13 AM PDT by jazusamo
Even when it comes to something as basic, and apparently as simple and straightforward, as the question of who shut down the federal government, there are diametrically opposite answers, depending on whether you talk to Democrats or to Republicans.
There is really nothing complicated about the facts. The Republican-controlled House of Representatives voted all the money required to keep all government activities going except for ObamaCare.
This is not a matter of opinion. You can check the Congressional Record.
As for the House of Representatives' right to grant or withhold money, that is not a matter of opinion either. You can check the Constitution of the United States. All spending bills must originate in the House of Representatives, which means that Congressmen there have a right to decide whether or not they want to spend money on a particular government activity.
Whether ObamaCare is good, bad or indifferent is a matter of opinion. But it is a matter of fact that members of the House of Representatives have a right to make spending decisions based on their opinion.
ObamaCare is indeed "the law of the land," as its supporters keep saying, and the Supreme Court has upheld its Constitutionality.
But the whole point of having a division of powers within the federal government is that each branch can decide independently what it wants to do or not do, regardless of what the other branches do, when exercising the powers specifically granted to that branch by the Constitution.
The hundreds of thousands of government workers who have been laid off are not idle because the House of Representatives did not vote enough money to pay their salaries or the other expenses of their agencies unless they are in an agency that would administer ObamaCare.
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Certain liberals are calling the Republican’s use of negotiation “extortion”.
Yep, and I’m sure most if not all of them know it’s a bald faced lie.
We, the People, don’t feel the need to fund our own destruction.
Extortion is an acceptable practice when it involves the federal government. The IRS depends upon extortion to operate. The federal government extorts states into accepting federal policies by withholding funds. It’s common practice. The radical leftists passed the Obamacare disaster, and Congress is perfectly within its rights to withhold funding for it. It is the Senate and Obama that are shutting down government to extort Congress into paying for their mess.
Is that what they call it when union labor goes out on strike???
this is a straight forward strategy to me.
We are not following our constitution. The House allocates money. They did their job. The Senate decided to change the bill. This is wrong.
I say let the gov’t shut down, let the whole damn thing go down until they get this right.
The anarchists, the terrorists, the arsonists are the democrats and the WH.
Republoicans must stick together all of them.
Obamacare was the MOST PARTISAN and STATIST piece of legislation in GENERATIONS (and that is saying something) that was rammed down the throat of the American people WITHOUT a SINGLE vote of support from the opposition party.
It was passed on Christmas Eve by the senate and skirted several procedural rules.
The democrat majority leader of the house even told us we would have to “pass the bill in order to see what is in it”
Now the democrats expect the republicans to stand at attention, salute and follow this “law” without any opposition or fight.
Life doesn’t work that way. You want to play these games? Then let’s play. Republicans control the house and the purse strings of the republican and the obama the “uniter” can whine all he wants.
Actually - obama showed us the third way.
Don’t like a law - don’t follow it and ignore it.
The longer this drags on - the worse it is going to be for the democrats (and they know it). The sun will still shine. People will still live their lives.
Pretty soon it becomes apparent that life does not need a huge government. That maybe we can CUT government afterall.
And just wait until 100’s of “WWII vets storming the memorial” events happen and people just ignore obama’s silly rules.
You couldn’t be more correct.
With 0bummer it’s my way or the highway; laws, rules and precedents mean nothing to him.
Now the RAT leadership have fallen in lockstep with him and the GOP-e seem to go along too. That’s got to change and now is the perfect time for Boehner and the Republicans to change it.
Even in shutdown, Feds get overtime, comp time, ‘Sunday pay’
Washington Sees Incomes Soar as Most of U.S. Declines
Nearly Three-Quarters of Jobs Created Since June Are in Government
Shutdown Preparations Prove Most Government Is Waste
Bingo. Well said.
As always Dr Sowell hit the nail again square on the head
One ignorant congressman from California accused them of using jihad against the 0bamacare
Jesus Christ: You cant impeach Him and He aint going to resign.
I’m not positive but I believe only the first bill was voted down by the Senate and the subsequent proposals were sent back by Dingy Harry.
BUMP! How I ADORE his brain! :)
We, the People, dont feel the need to fund our own destruction.
When will the spending stop? We have borrowed, taxed and printed our way into a false prosperity. But we are reaching the mathematical limits to each of these and have amassed an unpayable debt. This party will not end well.
Mr. Sowell....”...But unless the Republicans get their side of the story out...”
Therein lies the rub....The MSM will NOT, under any circumstances, get the republicans side of the story out...
It will only be liberal spin...
This should be read from the floor of the house and the senate, it should be in all of the newspapers and radio and television news programs.
That's if the object of the politicians and news media was to inform the electorate.
That’s what I was thinking too, thanks, jazusamo.
The Obamacare that we were >>promised<< or the Obamacare that we are stuck with? They are two different animals — one a cuddly little kitty cat, the other a wild ravenous starving lion that will eat the kitty cat and everything in sight. Turns out, they are one and the same. We were just lied to.
Of course, most of us knew that it was a lie. That is why we are so angry.
It’s called a “check” and it gives us “balance”.
The Stamp Act was the law of the land. The whole American Revolution was obviously a mistake.
Sowell makes it easy to understand and identifies the real cuplrits in this fiasco.
One thing I don’t understand, though, is why the Republicans continue to let the Demedia control how Republicans are portrayed.
Obama and his cronies continually beat the drum that a faction of one party in one house is behind the shut-down. And that we’re all “held hostage,” blah-blah-blah. He makes it sound like a tiny group is controlling things.
Actually, it’s Obama and the Senate Dems (and their useful tools among the RINOs) that are the small minority (controlling the Senate and the Oval Office) that are blocking the will of the majority (the House Republicans and the constituents all across the country that they represent).
There are more elected representatives that were put into office by a majority that wants to be rid of Omabacare than the minority that want to keep the boondoggle alive. The Republican majority in the house was duly elected and have the right, under the Constitution, to decide which agencies and programs are funded (or not).
Why aren’t Boehner and McConnell laying out the facts???
Why do we let rattle-snakes bite the way they do? Why do we let skunks continue to smell the way they do?
An excellent question, many say the enemedia won't cover getting the truth out to the country because they're in 0bummer and the Rats pocket.
There's much truth to that but when Sen. Cruz raised the roof just recently it was covered in much of the media. Boehner and McConnell would do well to adopt tactics like Ted Cruz but am not holding my breath.
bump for later
Posted this on FB and all my Lib “friends” can do is complain about the Hoover Institute. Typical.
excellent post. thank you.
This IS a great read. I was going to post it, but after running a search found it here.
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Yes, it is one of Dr. Sowell’s best.
Welcome to the Sowell ping list, you’re on.
Pointed this out to one of dear leader’s useful idiots and, big surprise, he dismissed Sowell as a “political hack”, never mind what he says is verifiable in any bloody news website.
And people wonder why I refer to Obama as dear leader. What else is he to some people when they’re willing to completely ignore reality to say he’s right?
Yep, libs have been ignoring Sowell for many years because they know they can’t debate him or sanely argue the points he makes.
0bama wouldn’t even dare mention Sowell’s name for fear someone would ask him an embarrassing question he couldn’t answer.