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Evolution to blame for murder of millions? (Book Review)
http://www.wnd.com ^ | 10/3/2013 | Jim Fletcher

Posted on 10/03/2013 12:54:16 PM PDT by kimtom

A trip through a major Holocaust museum will tell you most of what you need to know about the mindset of the fiends who murdered millions in the middle of the last century. Poster-size images of death-camp inmates – all staring blankly – attest to the monstrous worldview of the prisoners’ tormentors.

What, though, really explains the Nazi capacity for murder? How could “regular people” slaughter children? What possessed – pun intended – Hitler’s willing executioners to butcher women and old men?

I think Jerry Bergman has figured it out In a new book, “Hitler and the Nazi Darwinian Worldview,” Bergman (a university professor for four decades) presents fascinating portraits of the top Nazi killers, the men who planned the ghastly Final Solution.

Although “secular science” has issues with his conclusion, the data and analysis are unmistakable: Darwin did it.

The overall premise of naturalism – that everything in the universe is random and purposeless – is a damning indictment of the worst elements of Darwinian philosophy. This mindset has created everything from schoolyard bullies to the Third Reich. Bergman’s offers a devastating critique of Darwinian philosophy, and frankly, his profiles of Hitler and his henchmen are so riveting, you won’t be able to look away. Even though you want to........

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“The Nazis ensured that Darwinism was taught in detail using textbooks and classrooms for the reason that ideas derived from ‘Darwinian theory became important truths in Hitler’s ideology.’”

Coming to a college near you, wait....it's here!!!

1 posted on 10/03/2013 12:54:17 PM PDT by kimtom
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To: kimtom

2 posted on 10/03/2013 12:55:20 PM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: kimtom

Yep.


3 posted on 10/03/2013 12:56:02 PM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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To: kimtom

re: “Coming to a college near you, wait....it’s here!!!”

Darwinian naturalism has been in the universities since the 1920’s and 30’s.


4 posted on 10/03/2013 12:57:38 PM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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To: kimtom

Yeah, because nobody ever slaughtered millions of people before Darwin and Hitler came along.


5 posted on 10/03/2013 12:59:50 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: kimtom
The overall premise of naturalism – that everything in the universe is random and purposeless

That's a lie.

6 posted on 10/03/2013 1:02:38 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: kimtom

It’s important to note that while Darwin’s Theory Of Evolution certainly did lay the groundwork for eugenics, it was subsequently honed and refined by many people in far flung places from its origin.
Many members of the United States academia set up the sterilization solution to weed out ‘bad genes’.

However, this alone did not allow for the travesty of Hitler’s Germany. After all, God was still the overseer. No matter how man might have come to be, God still presided over all. Not so, according to Friedrich Nietzsche, who proclaimed ‘The Death of God’ and the dawn of nihilism.
It was these divergent developments that gave Hitler and his cadre the intellectual hammer with which to smash the order of humanity and bring in a new age of death and destruction.


7 posted on 10/03/2013 1:03:15 PM PDT by Viennacon
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"Yeah, because nobody ever slaughtered millions of people before Darwin and Hitler came along."

That may be true but at least they had God on their side.

8 posted on 10/03/2013 1:04:08 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: driftless2

Actually, no one ever did - the concept of organized genocide did not exist before the early 20th century - beginning with the Communist destruction of the “kulaks” of the Urkraine.


9 posted on 10/03/2013 1:04:40 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: kabumpo

Actually, you’re wrong. The Mongols slaughtered by the millions. And as far as religion, various religions slaughtered hundreds of thousands of people before Darwin and Hitler. Just in the religious wars of the 1600s hundreds of thousands were slaughtered. Try again.


10 posted on 10/03/2013 1:07:46 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: rusty schucklefurd; driftless2

it was meant with /sarc


11 posted on 10/03/2013 1:08:23 PM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: kabumpo

How many died in the civil war? How many died in the European conquest of the new world?


12 posted on 10/03/2013 1:08:24 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: kabumpo
Actually, no one ever did - the concept of organized genocide did not exist before the early 20th century - beginning with the Communist destruction of the “kulaks” of the Urkraine.

Somehow I suspect they weren't the first to have the idea. They were just the first to have the technological means and the will to use it for that.

13 posted on 10/03/2013 1:09:20 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Ben Ficklin

“..That may be true but at least they had God on their side....”

If THAT were true, they would not have failed.....


14 posted on 10/03/2013 1:09:32 PM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: driftless2

re: “Yeah, because nobody ever slaughtered millions of people before Darwin and Hitler came along.”

Point taken. There was also Stalin and Chairman Mao, Pol Pot, Ho Chi Ming, etc.

I get your drift - what about all the people killed in the name of God?

I guess the only difference is, as to Christianity, so-called Christians who did commit such crimes did so in direct violation of everything Christ or the Apostles taught in the New Testament.

It’s also true that just because someone accepts Darwinian naturalism doesn’t mean that they are a barbarous murderer.

However, if you follow the moral implications of the theory - that morality is just an evolutionary quirk to help maintain the “herd”, the strongest and the fittest are the ones who have the moral imperative to survive and the weak, well, if they get in the way of the “strongest and the fittest”, well then, why not simply remove the “useless eaters”. They are a drag on the state and the healthy.

I’m in no way saying that is what you or many fine scientists believe, but that view, unfortunately, does not violate anything in Darwinian theory.


15 posted on 10/03/2013 1:11:56 PM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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To: kabumpo

While the term “genocide” didn’t exist the organized slaughter of people the rulers don’t like goes as far back as we can find. heck there’s two in the Bible.


16 posted on 10/03/2013 1:12:13 PM PDT by discostu (This is Jack Burton in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there.)
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To: driftless2
Communist Body Count: 149,469,610

name an ideology that has matched that!!

http://www.scottmanning.com/content/communist-body-count/

communism, humanism, evolution......(?)

17 posted on 10/03/2013 1:14:07 PM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: driftless2
mongols only slaughtered those who resisted , as a object lesson.

Genghis Khan innovated many ways of organizing his army, dividing it into decimal subsections of arbans (10 people), zuuns (100), myangans (1000) and tumens (10,000). The Kheshig or the Imperial Guard was founded and divided into day (khorchin, torghuds) and night guards (khevtuul).[21] He rewarded those who had been loyal to him and placed them in high positions, placing them as heads of army units and households, even though many of his allies had been from very low-rank clans.[22] Compared to the units he gave to his loyal companions, those assigned to his own family members were quite few. He proclaimed a new law of the empire, Ikh Zasag or Yassa, and codified everything related to the everyday life and political affairs of the nomads at the time. He forbade the selling of women, theft of other's properties, fighting between the Mongols, and the hunting of animals during the breeding season.[22] He appointed his adopted brother Shigi-Khuthugh supreme judge (jarughachi), ordering him to keep records of the empire. In addition to laws regarding family, food and army, Genghis also decreed religious freedom and supported domestic and international trade. He exempted the poor and the clergy from taxation.[23] Thus, Muslims, Buddhists and Christians from Manchuria, North China, India and Persia joined Genghis Khan long before his foreign conquests. He also encouraged literacy, adopting the Uyghur script which would form the Uyghur-Mongolian script of the empire, and he ordered the Uyghur Tatatunga, who had previously served the khan of Naimans, to instruct his sons.[24]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_Empire

18 posted on 10/03/2013 1:18:28 PM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: kimtom

Darwinism and natural selection has never contributed anything to science or life. It is a godless system invented by a godless man to show his arrogance against the God of creation. Someday the whole facade will come crashing down and schools that forbid the teaching of intelligent design will be scrapheaps of history.


19 posted on 10/03/2013 1:18:58 PM PDT by 2nd Amendment (Proud member of the 48% . . giver not a taker)
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To: kimtom

Nobody wants to try to match that. But if you’re trying to make the point that Darwin was responsible for Hitler or communism’s murder count, you’re way off base. Hitler killed because he believed in the master race..not Darwinism. He hated “subhumans” ...Jews, Slavs, Gypsies, anybody who was not a German Aryan. Marxist ideology, not Darwinism led to the slaughter of millions by the commies.


20 posted on 10/03/2013 1:19:51 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: 2nd Amendment

interesting isn’t that there are some that defend this ideology, by their posts.(?)

My opinion


21 posted on 10/03/2013 1:21:41 PM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: rusty schucklefurd

They didn’t kill in the name of Darwinism...they killed because they could kill. They were bloodthirsty psychopaths who would use any theory to justify their butchery. I’ve never read one account by any major commie who used Darwinist principles to justify thinning the herd. They just liked to kill people...period. Marxism more than satisfied their bloodlust.


22 posted on 10/03/2013 1:22:41 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: discostu

Such as King Herod trying to kill Jesus by slaughtering a whole bunch of male children 3 and under....(the scattergun approach). Or Pharoah killing the first born of Israel. You mean those two right?

Evil always tries to destroy the good and in the process many are killed. Kulaks in the main were farmers and productive Christians. When they were slaughtered, the agricultural prowess of Russia was destroyed!


23 posted on 10/03/2013 1:24:35 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: driftless2

Darwin himself is not responsible, as in Hitler will be held accountable for his atrocities by the Supreme Lord of All.

His precepts though, contributed to Humanism and was the mechanism (or excuse) for evil men.

ditto to Marxism (which again was used)


24 posted on 10/03/2013 1:24:47 PM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: kimtom

Yeah, sure. Like guns, bullets or gas are responsible. This is an idiotic premise.

Evil men with sick minds who are divorced from a Judaeo-Christian, Buddhist, Sikh, etc concept of God are responsible.


25 posted on 10/03/2013 1:25:48 PM PDT by ZULU (Impeach that Bastard Barrack Hussein Obama)
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To: ZULU

which premise?


26 posted on 10/03/2013 1:28:40 PM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: driftless2
He hated “subhumans” ...Jews, Slavs, Gypsies, anybody who was not a German Aryan.

A more inclusive term than German Aryan for those toward whom Hitler didn't not harbor racial hatred would be Nordic (some will say synonymous with German Aryan), to include the Swedes, Norwegians, Danes, Icelanders, Dutch, and also the British.

27 posted on 10/03/2013 1:29:45 PM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished.)
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To: mdmathis6

Actually I’m referring to the slaughtering of the Amalekites and Midianites. The two you mentioned are certainly mass murders, but remember genocide isn’t just mass murder, it’s mass murder with the intent of putting a certain group of people on the ash heap of history.


28 posted on 10/03/2013 1:32:11 PM PDT by discostu (This is Jack Burton in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there.)
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To: driftless2

The Mongols only killed those who would not submit, and were largely indifferent to religion among their subjects. They did not kill simply because of who or what you were, as the Nazis did. Their violence was a tactic deployed to ensure control, not a means toward the end- extermination.

The religious wars of Europe lasted hundreds of years. No one can claim that anywhere near six million were killed in a single decade.


29 posted on 10/03/2013 1:34:01 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: driftless2

Secular Humanism and Evolution

by Caleb Colley, M.L.A.

The Illustrated Oxford Dictionary defines humanism as “a system of thought concerned with human rather than divine or supernatural matters,” and secular as “concerned with the affairs of this world; not spiritual nor sacred...not concerned with religion nor religious belief” (2003, pp. 397, 744). The stated purpose of secular humanism is “furnishing adequate social goals and personal satisfactions” (Preface, Humanist Manifesto I, 1933). Webber confirmed: “One of the special features of secular humanism is its evangelistic fervor for atheism” (1982, p. 37). Secular humanism, then, is a theory of ethics and human fulfillment devoid of spirituality, the supernatural, or God. Man becomes the measure of all things.

In Luke 24:49, Jesus promised that the apostles would be “endued with power from on high,” i.e., they would receive the miraculous gift of the Holy Spirit (see Acts 2:1-4; cf. Joel 2:28). This implies the existence of a power greater than humanity—a power capable of bestowing power upon humans and even orchestrating human events. Of course, the Bible identifies this “power on high” as being the one eternal, omnipotent Creator of the Universe—God (see Colley, 2004a; Colley, 2004b ).

The very idea of such miraculous power is antithetical to secular humanism. According to secular humanism, there is no identifiable “power from on high,” at least no power relevant to humanity. The first and second articles of the first Humanist Manifesto make these points plainly: “FIRST: Religious humanists regard the universe as self-existing and not created. SECOND: Humanism believes that man is a part of nature and that he has emerged as a result of a continuous process” (1933; cf. Romans 1:25-28). The authors of the Secular Humanist Declaration further argue that evolutionary theory is “supported impressively by the findings of many sciences” (1980).

Humanist Manifesto II makes the argument more bluntly: “As non-theists, we begin with humans, not God, nature not deity.... [H]umans are responsible for what we are or will become. No deity will save us; we must save ourselves” (Section 1, 1973). Then, “[a]s in 1933 (the publication date of the first Manifesto—CC), humanists still believe that traditional theism, especially faith in the prayer-hearing God, assumed to love and care for persons...is an unproved and outmoded faith” (Preface, 1973).

The secular humanists’ progression leads directly from a denial of God to an affirmation of naturalistic evolution. Special creation by God, and random evolution absent any divine guidance, are the only two possible accounts of human origins (Thompson, 2004, pp. 1-4). And while there are certain differences between various stripes of non-Christian humanists, virtually all secular humanists side with Darwinism (Geisler, 1999, pp. 337-338). According to this approach, there is no good reason for any religion other than humanism to exist, and “Salvationism” is pernicious (Preface, Humanist..., 1973). In fact, secular humanists realize that religion poses a threat to the propagation of evolutionary theory:

Today the theory of evolution is again under heavy attack by religious fundamentalists.... There may be some significant differences among scientists concerning the mechanics of evolution; yet the evolution of the species is supported so strongly by the weight of evidence that it is difficult to reject it. Accordingly, we deplore the efforts by fundamentalists (especially in the United States) to invade the science classrooms, requiring that creationist theory be taught to students and requiring that it be included in biology textbooks. This is a serious threat both to academic freedom and to the integrity of the educational process. We believe that creationists surely should have the freedom to express their viewpoint in society. Moreover, we do not deny the value of examining theories of creation in educational courses on religion and the history of ideas; but it is a sham to mask an article of religious faith as a scientific truth and to inflict that doctrine on the scientific curriculum. If successful, creationists may seriously undermine the credibility of science itself (A Secular..., 1980, Section 9, parenthetical item in orig.).

The secular humanist would agree with the late, eminent evolutionist of Harvard, George Gaylord Simpson: “Man is the result of a purposeless and natural process that did not have him in mind. He was not planned. He is a state of matter, a form of life, a sort of animal, and a species of the Order Primates, akin nearly or remotely to all of life and indeed to all that is material” (1967, p. 345). However, the secular humanist recognizes the special abilities of man that differentiates him from other animal life (for an overview of these abilities, see Harrub and Thompson, 2003, pp. viii-ix).

The humanist position is contradictory in that it proposes to extol the value and significance of humanity, while promoting a theory which weakens the inherent worth of humanity. As secular humanists insist that humanity descended from animal life via evolution, they impart, however unwittingly, the concept that humans are of no more appreciable ultimate value than animals. Consider the words of internationally renowned psychiatrist Viktor E. Frankl, witness to numerous horrors in Nazi prison camps:

Under the influence of a world which no longer recognized the value of human life and human dignity, which had robbed man of his will and had made him an object to be exterminated (having planned, however, to make full use of him first—to the last ounce of his physical resources)—under this influence the personal ego finally suffered a loss of values. If the man in the concentration camp did not struggle against this in a last effort to save his self-respect, he lost the feeling of being an individual, a being with a mind, with inner freedom and personal value. He thought of himself then as only a part of an enormous mass of people; his existence descended to the level of animal life (1984, p. 70, emp. added).

Secular humanism, logically, is doomed to reach the unhappy conclusion that, due to its unbreakable tie to Darwinism, it guarantees failure in accomplishing its stated purpose.

DOES SECULAR HUMANISM MEET ITS OWN STANDARDS?

First, consider whether evolution provides philosophical grounds for adequate social goals. A social goal is one that, if accomplished, will benefit a group of people. The only social goal of evolution is more evolution—that the species may continue to improve. Evolutionists cannot logically impose any other social goals because evolution is profited solely by time and chance, neither of which are subject to human influence. It is nonsensical to speak of creating time or chance, and just as ridiculous to speak of people controlling their own rate of evolution.

The secular humanist may be allowed only such goals as are inherent in nature itself, for he asserts that man is merely a part of nature and the product of evolution. So, what of the “social” purposes of various creatures in the animal kingdom? Surely even the most strident Darwinist would refuse to normalize or universalize the “social goals” of, say, the lion. Social responsibility is not a leonine strength. The lion has no better social goals than killing and eating other animals (even people) when he is hungry. He merely acts in accordance with his “selfish genes,” which tell him that he is hungry. The hungry lion feels no further ethical or moral obligation to any larger social goals. For a Darwinist, the social reality is that “plants and animals prey on each other to survive,” and humans have no grounds to establish any higher standard of life (see Ridenour, 2001, p. 170).

Secular humanists “envision values and morals having a basis in whatever makes us human” (apart from our spiritual self, of course, Major, 1999b). However, studies in genetics have produced no evidence of any moral code within human or animal genes (1999b). There is a sense of urgency in the secular humanists’ appeals because they wish to bring an end to Judeo-Christian ethics and any other religious influences on society (1999b; for a further consideration of evolution and ethics, see Major, 1999a). Without any ethical foundation in human genetics, the atheistic humanist is left without any basis for adequate social goals.

Next, we must ask whether evolution allows the secular humanist to acquire personal satisfaction or fulfillment. The secular humanist insists that a man must reach his full human potential by self-actualization in order to achieve ultimate personal satisfaction. There are many diverse theories concerning the path to human fulfillment, and it is impossible to prove scientifically whether any one plan is better than others. However, we may objectively assess how well a particular approach accounts for and explains the circumstances and how much understanding and hope it offers.

Secular humanists claim that knowledge comes through reason with scientific experimentation (never through divine revelation). “The assumption in this approach is that we as human beings are in control of the whole process of gaining knowledge” (Goldsworthy, 1991, p. 38). This is “autonomous reason,” seeking to understand the world apart from a Creator. The Declaration of 1980 encouraged its readers to resist “unthinking efforts to limit technological or scientific advances” (Section 8). But science and reason, alone, do not fulfill humanity. Consider Ridenour’s words: “Manifesto II trustingly claims that man’s goodness will guide him in using technology for the good of humankind by carefully avoiding harmful and destructive changes. But again, the humanist faces the problem of who is to determine what is really good for humankind” (2001, p. 194).

This problem is due to naturalism. “What governs the ‘reasonable’ in humanistic thinking is not the idea that we know it all now, but the assumption that man’s knowledge-gaining is completely independent of any outside or supernatural help. The only world to be known is the natural world which is open to our senses” (Goldsworthy, pp. 38-39). Because of secular humanism’s abhorrence of the supernatural and consequential attachment to naturalistic evolution, it is inadequate to fulfill us—it offers nothing outside the realm of natural human experience to give meaning to life. Secular humanism gives us no hope to understand or contextualize the often bewildering crisscross of events that coerce human lives to take various directions. Just as the theory of evolution leaves the biologist with more confounding questions than comforting answers, secular humanism leaves the individual with no foundation for understanding his existence, purpose, future, and fulfillment. Therefore, the earnest enquirer should look for another solution.

A BETTER SOLUTION

We have shown that secular humanism, by necessarily evoking naturalistic evolution, is at war with itself. Christianity, in contrast to secular humanism, is fully consistent with itself and human experience. While there are non-theistic forms of Christian humanism (see “Welcome to...,” 2006), we may label as “Christian humanist” the follower of Christ who believes that a relationship with God is the only means to authentic human fulfillment. In so believing, the Christian attaches great value to humanity (both physical and spiritual parts), because God does (Genesis 1:26ff; Matthew 16:26; cf. Harrub, 2002). Christianity never cheapens the value of humanity.

As McDowell stated: “Sometimes humanism is defined as the study of the worth and dignity of man as such worth is given to him by God.... [W]e must be careful not to build a false case about all uses of the word humanism and then attempt to refute that false case.” (1993, pp. 316-317). Or, as Packer and Howard put it: “...Christianity is the true humanism, since it has for its purpose the forming and freeing and exalting of our true humanness. The Christian story is ordinarily said to be about salvation from sin. But that means nothing different from what we are saying, for it is sin that dehumanizes, and it is only in the matrix of holiness that authentic humanness takes shape” (1985, p. 52). One need look no further than the tragic third chapter of Genesis to see the accuracy of this assessment.

In Jesus, we see the glory of humanity at its fullest potential. Again, from Packer and Howard: “Morally and spiritually, intellectually and experientially, motivationally and relationally, the incarnate Son of God stands before us as perfect man, the one totally human being that history knows” (p. 53). In fact, the Christian humanist and the secular humanist share a desire for humanity to be fulfilled, but differ concerning the path to fulfillment and how to define “fulfillment,” i.e., spiritual oneness with God vs. physical, fleshly gratification. The Christian humanist believes that the keys to understanding existence, and the role of humanity in the world, are found in the Bible. He believes in the potency of the Bible because of the powerful evidence of its supernatural origins (“The Inspiration...,” 2001). The Bible reveals specific information about the God Who has revealed Himself in a limited way via His natural creation (Psalm 19:1; Romans 1:20-21).

Despite the secular humanists’ prediction that the 21st century “can and should be the humanistic century,” (Humanist..., Preface, 1973), there is a growing recognition that secular humanism is devoid of hope for eternity and fulfillment during physical life. Regardless, two things undeniably are true: First, that “the clash of systems between Christianity and secular humanism is building” (Webber, 1982, p. 55), and second, that the Gospel of Christ still has the best answer to man’s problems: “I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly” (John 10:10).

REFERENCES

Colley, Caleb (2004a), “The Eternality of God,” [On-line], URL: http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/2565.

Colley, Caleb (2004b), “The Omnipotence of God,” [On-line], URL: http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/2566.

Geisler, Norman (1999), Baker Encyclopedia of Christian Apologetics (Grand Rapids, MI: Baker).

Goldsworthy, Graeme (1991), According to Plan (Downers Grove, IL: InterVarsity Press).

Frankl, Viktor E., (1984), Man’s Search for Meaning (New York: Washington Square Press).

Harrub, Brad (2002), “The Inherent Value of Human Life,” [On-line], URL: http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/132.

Harrub, Brad, and Bert Thompson (2003), The Truth About Human Origins (Montgomery, AL: Apologetics Press).

Humanist Manifesto I (1933), American Humanist Association, [On-line], URL: http://www.americanhumanist.org/about/manifesto1.html.

Humanist Manifesto II (1973), American Humanist Association, [On-line], URL: http://www.americanhumanist.org/about/manifesto2.php.

“The Inspiration of the Bible” (2001), Apologetics Press, [On-line], URL: http://www.apologeticspress.org/pdfs/courses_pdf/hsc0108.pdf.

Illustrated Oxford Dictionary (2003), (New York: Oxford), revised edition.

Major, Trevor (1999a), “Ethics and Darwinism [Part I],” [On-line], URL: http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/70.

Major, Trevor (1999b), “Ethics and Darwinism [Part II],” [On-line], URL: http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/73.

McDowell, Josh (1993), A Ready Defense (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson).

Packer, J. I. and Thomas Howard (1985), Christianity: The True Humanism (Waco, TX: Word Books).

Ridenour, Fritz (2001), So What’s the Difference? (Ventura, CA: Regal).

A Secular Humanist Declaration (1980), New Jersey Humanist Network, [On-line], URL: http://www.njhn.org/humanism_info/declaration.html.

Simpson, George Gaylord (1967), The Meaning of Evolution (New Haven, CT: Yale University Press).

Thompson, Bert (2004), The Scientific Case for Creation (Montgomery, AL: Apologetics Press).

Webber, Robert (1982), Secular Humanism: Threat and Challenge (Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan).

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Copyright © 2007 Apologetics Press, Inc. All rights reserved.


30 posted on 10/03/2013 1:38:38 PM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: Ben Ficklin

see post 17


31 posted on 10/03/2013 1:42:47 PM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: kimtom

Assuming that this is an accurate explanation of Hitler does it apply to Stalin and Mao as well,or were they just misguided visionaries?


32 posted on 10/03/2013 1:45:15 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Osama Obama Care: A Religion That Will Have You On Your Knees!)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Darwinism promotes Humanism.
see post 30.

Humanism promotes atheism.

without Supreme Morality, then killing can be justified.
(your answer-yes)

(I did not say all humanist are atheist)


33 posted on 10/03/2013 1:51:03 PM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: kimtom

That evolution caused NAZIsm.


34 posted on 10/03/2013 1:57:47 PM PDT by ZULU (Impeach that Bastard Barrack Hussein Obama)
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To: kimtom

Look up Pennhurst State Hospital in PA. It was the beginning of eugenics and will make you sick. I first heard of it several years ago and watched a show about it last night.


35 posted on 10/03/2013 2:08:16 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: kimtom

Let’s say you’re right. You’re not, but let’s say Hitler never would have thought of demonizing one group as the scapegoats for a depressed and anxious people’s problems, despite the technique’s long history as a political tool, if it weren’t for Darwin; and never would have picked the Jews, despite the long history of anti-Semitism in Germany, without evolution to justify it. What does any of that have to do with whether or not the theory is accurate? The Origin of Species is an explanation, not an advice manual, any more than germ theory is a suggestion that people should develop biological weapons.


36 posted on 10/03/2013 2:20:03 PM PDT by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: SoCal Pubbie

My point is some people are killers. They hate humanity and they love to kill. Whenever there is some sort of crisis where violent groups or people can ascend to power, many times the most violent people or groups do ascend to power. And they start their killing. They might have some sort of ideology (communism, Nazism, fascism, humanism, etc.) that they claim guides them, but basically they like to kill. Because they’re psychopaths first, ideologues second.


37 posted on 10/03/2013 2:48:59 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: kimtom

38 posted on 10/03/2013 3:06:28 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: kimtom

Genghis Khan’s descendent, Tamerlane exterminated whole cities, even after a surrender, in the name of Allah even when those killed were also Muslim. Entire cultures were exterminated.

Hitler, Sanger and others were wrong in their interpretation of evolutionary theory. Bad science chasing ideological desires. Attempts to exterminate the Jews long preceded the Nazi “scientists” and survive today by people who reject explicitly evolutionary theories (Muslims). “Survival of the fittest” does not nor ever has meant survival of the normative “best”.

There is more intentional distortion of evolution than of any other subject I know.

That is all I have to say on the matter.


39 posted on 10/03/2013 3:17:02 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: driftless2; kimtom

I think the first recorded genocide was that of the Canaanites by the Israelites. That was carried out not in the name of God but on his direct orders.


40 posted on 10/03/2013 3:37:51 PM PDT by Natufian (t)
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To: JimSEA
There is more intentional distortion of evolution than of any other subject I know.

Agreed.
41 posted on 10/03/2013 3:44:18 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: kimtom

Outlaw evolution....


42 posted on 10/03/2013 4:16:36 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Viennacon
It’s important to note that while Darwin’s Theory Of Evolution certainly did lay the groundwork for eugenics,

Leonard Darwin was the president of the Eugenics Society. Many winners of the Darwin Medal were eugenists. Look at my FR profile page.

43 posted on 10/03/2013 8:13:04 PM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
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To: 2nd Amendment
Darwinism and natural selection has never contributed anything to science or life. It is a godless system invented by a godless man to show his arrogance against the God of creation. Someday the whole facade will come crashing down and schools that forbid the teaching of intelligent design will be scrapheaps of history.

That's a very good and accurate summary of Darwinism.

More about Darwinism here.

44 posted on 10/03/2013 8:18:01 PM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
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To: JimSEA
There is more intentional distortion of evolution than of any other subject I know.

Eugenists won many Darwiin Medals. Maybe you are the one intentionally distorting Darwinism.

The influence primarily responsible for the modern eugenics movement was the establishment of the doctrine of organic evolution following the publication of Darwin's Origin of Species in 1859. —Samuel J. Holmes, Human Genetics, ch.25 (1936)

"The religion of evolution holds forth no hope of a perfect millenium in which all evil shall be eliminated and all struggle shall cease... There can be no progress of any kind without struggle... The struggle against evil in general is thus a condition of social progress... Evolution thus offers a rational solution of the great problem of evil. It has taught us that there is all about us a great and world-wide struggle for existence; that inaction and satiety end in degeneration and that advance can be purchased only by struggle, suffering, and death." -- E.G. Conklin (AAAS president, American Eugenics Society president), The Direction of Human Evolution, pg. 239--240.

Let me, even at the risk of talking about the familiar, sketch for you the broad outlines of Darwin's theory of evolutionary progress. The individual better fitted to its environment lived longer than its fellows, had more offspring, and these, inheriting its better fitness, raised the type of the race. The environment against which the individual had to struggle here was not only formed by the other members of its species, not only by its physical surroundings, but by the germs of disease of all types. According to Darwin -- and some of us still believe him to be right -- the ascent of man, physical and mental, was brought about by this survival of the fitter. Now, if you are going lo take Darwinism as your theory of life and apply it to human problems, you must not only believe it to be true, but you must set to, and demonstrate that it actually applies. -- Karl Pearson, Darwinism, Medical Progress and Eugenics, Cavendish Lecture, 1912, given to the West London Medical-Surgical Society. Originally published in the West London Medical Journal, vol. 17, pg. 165--193, 1912.


45 posted on 10/03/2013 8:27:23 PM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
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To: kimtom
"As an agency making for progress, conscious selection must replace the blind forces of natural selection; and men must utilize all the knowledge acquired by studying the process of evolution in the past in order to promote moral and physical progress in the future. The nation which first takes this great work thoroughly in hand will surely not only win in all matters of international competition, but will be given a place of honour in the history of the world." —Leonard Darwin, Presidential address, First International Eugenics Congress, 1912.

More here.

46 posted on 10/03/2013 8:36:30 PM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
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To: driftless2

Yet ideas do have power. One might use the Bible to justify slavery, but it’s not the basis of Christianity (or Judaism for that matter). One might also distort the Gospel (and Democrats do) to justify socialism. But once God is taken out of the equation, and the idea of survival of the fittest takes hold, abuses are bound to happen.


47 posted on 10/03/2013 9:57:14 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: driftless2

Photo of statue on Lennin's desk in the Kremlin. One of the books reads "Darwin."


Link to full size image

48 posted on 10/03/2013 10:06:17 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: discostu

Those were military - battles, invasions. Not methodical planning to characterize members of your own nation, people who live on your street, as “subhuman” and plan their extermination.


49 posted on 10/03/2013 11:46:18 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Ben Ficklin

As I wrote in a previous post, war is not the same as a plan to exterminate an entire people who live among you because they are vermin.


50 posted on 10/03/2013 11:48:47 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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