Skip to comments.School Tells Cop Scott Urkov Not To Wear Gun, Uniform When Picking Up Daughter
Posted on 10/03/2013 1:03:08 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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What are they going to do...call the cops?
Southpark could do a great episode on this.
But what happens if you’re driving from point A to point B and you have a few schools you have to pass? Whatever road you choose to go around them has a school on it. So how do you move your “weapons” to where you want to take them?
If something goes wrong at the school and they call 911, will they tell the dispatcher to have the responding policemen change out of their uniforms and leave their weapons locked in their vehicles before they arrive on school grounds?
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I was born in Ann Arbor, Michigan, but moved to California when only a few weeks old. Luckily, I did not receive the pleasure of shoveling snow and walking to school in multiple layers of clothing. I was raised in sunny Mission Viejo, California where the seed for my passion to become an educator was planted through my educational experiences from elementary school through high school. Upon graduation from high school I attended The University of Arizona with Elementary Education as my focus. I taught 5th grade for 3 years in Tucson upon graduating. I then moved to Phoenix to better accomplish a few of my professional and personal goals. While teaching in Chandler, I attended night school through Northern Arizona University for a few years in order to obtain a master's degree in Elementary Education. I then was accepted into Arizona State University's D.E.L.T.A. Doctoral program which focused on educational leadership. Once I earned my doctorate, and, after ten years of being in the classroom, I made the choice to pursue an educational position that would allow me to maintain my passion for teaching and learning, but in a different context; that being in the position of instructional leader.
When is it time to say that sending your child to public school is child abuse or worse?
We made decision before we procreated that if we were blessed with children that we would raise them to be adults in a home schooled environment.
Even with the financial loss from having a one income family.
Why have children if your goal in life is to ship them off for others to be responsible for your creation?
We know a few that see making new children as a pay raise and more free stuff from the government.
Then the wonder of where feral children appear from.
I would suspect that the “detached from reality” school administration is responding to the catastrophic increase of massacres at schools by uniformed policemen. It’s hard to get through a week without reading about another school shooting by uniformed policemen/women. Probably the MSM administration propagandists are not getting the word out.
I had a moron tell me that years ago. I said, why don’t you come take it and see what happens and pushed her out of my way.
Surprises me for Arizona
...and then the next day the *only* armed person at the school isn’t a good guy - not even a cop allowed around. And they think it makes them safer. Unreal.
Does this surprize anyone? Only if it happend in SURPRIZE, AZ? The people in that town are so gullible.
True, one unexamined aspect of these attitudes is because most people who self identify as liberals are very often abject physical cowards with no sense of personal honor. I recall decades ago in college a prick of a liberal called me a liar to my face. I told him that the reason I didn't cold cock him was I didn't want to get expelled but if he wanted to repeat his remarks off campus I would be happy to oblige. He thought the whole idea of an ‘affront to ones honor’ to be beyond stupid. This fellow became some sort of medical researcher. So we have a governing and intellectual class heavily populated by cowards who have no sense of honor. These people hate guns as ‘symbols of violence’ and have no conception of how to deal with any emergency requiring physical courage and are completely at a loss when they do have to deal with such events.
Some time ago a female from Human Rights watch was permitted to embed with US troops in Afghanistan. She made it clear that she thought they were all killers and male chauvinist pigs. One day out with a patrol team visiting a village a Ghazi with a suicide belt jumped the patrol. Someone yelled ‘bomb’ and as the female later reported ‘two guys i thought were pigs jumped on top of me to protect me from the blast. One of them got some injuries. Her later remarks were ‘Why would you risk you life for someone you scarcely know and know detests you. Wow, I never understood courage until today. Always thought it was just male bs.Its not. Those men are great. They are heroes.’ Unfortunately few libs ever have such a true life experience.
The police in our city are required to carry their guns on or off duty. Uniformed or not.
Don’t be so anti-effusive.
Most states exempt sworn law enforcement in uniform from school gun laws
Just another incident from Gun Control Nazis
Looks like the commies got their butts kicked on this one. At least for now.
LOL! Good for you. This trooper looked at her in shock and patiently explained that he can’t hand over his weapon. I told him that I would be right back and retrieved a Marine MP. He was given access and kept his weapon of course.
My employer at that time was a major corporation and also a government contractor. We had a military presence in some areas.
Ours are also required to carry at all times. Go back and reread my post instead of overreacting and jumping to conclusions.
Guvment school administrations are stupid. Not ignorant. You can’t fix stupid.
They indoctrinate kids that Homosexuality is good, Guns are bad.
Just FYI, if you obtain a concealed carry permit in AZ you are not subject to the 1000 restriction. Carrying a weapon onto school grounds, however, would still be an issue.
That school is inviting a massacre. All it takes is one deranged Democrat off his meds.
Oops, forgot to Add that this is somebody wearing a fake police uniform.
I know a principal who should be getting some tickets. And I don’t mean to a football game.
Another reason to...oh, well, metmon, you know the routine.
If he were dressed in drag or a leather bondage outfit, he’d get an interview with the school paper and at least one talk show apperance. WTF is happening?
At least the marine guards at Beirut got to hold M-16s even though their ammo was taken away so that they were unable to create an incident. This so emboldened the ragheads that they shot and ran over the useless guards, drove around the concrete maze and blew up the barracks. Hope the school never has to wish it had a cop around with a real gun and bullets when they really needed one.
That’s just it. They are never off duty within tehir jurisdiction, so they have an obligation to use lethal force when appropriate. The difference is the way in which ordinary citizens were once upon a time obligated to be armed as well and under somewhat limited obligations to use lethal force in appropriate circumstances in defense of other citizens. This civilian responsibility for public safety has been deprecated.
“WTF is happening?”
We’re seeing the fruits of the steady, patient approach of the Communists in the USA.
>>On the other side you have jack booted government thug ...
Drink the cop hater kool-aid much?
I’ll guess your “interactions” with the cops have been negative, and like all the inmates in Shawshank Prison, you were innocent.<<
Or maybe he reads all the stories about cops killing dogs for no good reason.
Send a polite letter telling them to go f*** themselves.
Just someone on a power trip under the guise of helping the chillun.
I second that. And the higher up you go, the more ignorant they get. I am a former urban school teacher. I found most of my fellow teachers to be sensible folks, just trying to do the best they could under difficult situations.
On the other hand, most of the vice-principals and principals were somewhat divorced from reality.
And the central office folks were, all of them, just clueless, totally ignorant of what was going on.
I'll bet you a dollar that 95% of the teachers in that building welcomed the sight of an armed police officer. But 95% of the central administrators would be horrified by the very thought of it.
Two words: Screw ‘em.
Urkov has bee invited to speak at the school in his full uniform to explain to kids what police officers do.
The kids were taught he works for la migra.
“We had an idiot receptionist several years ago that told a State Trooper that he had to leave his gun with her at the front desk. LOL!”
What kind of establishment was this in, or should I infer it was a Maryland Pubik Screwl ?
Large corporation Government contractor but, it is in Maryland.
Did you tell your in law that he was in the Wild west where the bison were armed with buffalo guns?
“The sight of an armed man even a fully uniformed police officer with a handgun on the school grounds was apparently too much for some parents.”
Another example of the typical leftist bed-wetters. These are the same no-balls freaks that some here on FR think will go door-to-door and confiscate our firearms.
Where and how our children are educated in an individual family decision. You may not agree with the choice I or others have made, but your disagreement gives you no excuse to accuse anyone of a heinous crime.
Then the wonder of where feral children appear from.
"Then they wonder from where the feral children appear" is what I believe you were attempting to say.
Ha,ha, no...actually he and his wife were great guests. But many Brits have an inordinate fear/hatred of guns. Of course, Britain is a land with few guns. A lot of burglary but little gun violence.
Laws are easy to change. If they aren’t on duty (scheduled and getting paid) then they can leave their gun at home or at the office.
Just like they want us to do in so many places.
Leftists don’t believe in genuine courage because they’ve literally never seen it.
Oh, they’ve seen ‘stand-in-a-crowd-of-your-friends-and-call-someone-a-liar’ courage.
But never ‘take-a-bullet-in-the-stomach’ ‘life-and-death’ courage.
My daughter attends public school and is in 10th grade - she's never heard either.
Obviously the laws could be and were changed when you consider the fact parents and students used to bring their firearms to school.
You certainly did not have to be a police officer to do so.
My daddy had a saying for that, he called it “book smart” and said he meant people that were dumb as rocks when they got away from their books.
HUH? Noob - you got issues, deal with them.