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Exclusive--Border Patrol Rep Claims Agents Being Ordered to Stand Down
breitbart.com ^ | 10/3/13 | Brandon Darby

Posted on 10/03/2013 1:19:06 PM PDT by ColdOne

“It doesn’t matter whether it’s drugs, bodies, or how large the group is, our agents are being ordered to stand down by Border Patrol management,” said Moran. "I have received reports from our agents in every single sector from San Diego to the Rio Grande Valley in Texas that they are receiving these orders."

"They are not being relieved in place, they are simply being told that someone else is being dispatched, but none of us have seen that occur," he explained. "We are simply being ordered to stand down and stop tracking and trying to apprehend the criminals.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California; US: Florida; US: New Mexico; US: New York; US: Texas; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; obamasfault

1 posted on 10/03/2013 1:19:06 PM PDT by ColdOne
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To: ColdOne

...the petulant little boy king is angry and wants the citizenship to know he’s not pleased.


2 posted on 10/03/2013 1:21:00 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: ColdOne; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...
Ping!

Click the keyword Aliens to see more illegal alien, border security, and other related threads.

3 posted on 10/03/2013 1:21:31 PM PDT by HiJinx (Nudge, Shove, and Shoot)
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To: ColdOne
“someone else is being dispatched”

Properly indoctrinated DHS Gestapo.....

4 posted on 10/03/2013 1:22:26 PM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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To: ColdOne
Obama's golf course remains open.
5 posted on 10/03/2013 1:23:59 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: ColdOne

Today is the day they can first get their free CA drivers licenses! Why not have the border agents hand out maps to the first DMV office? Maybe lemonade too, and a tiny flag that has Mexico on one side and old “glory” on the other.


6 posted on 10/03/2013 1:24:12 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: ColdOne

My son is a BP Agent in AZ. He has not heard of that stand-down “order.”

They are in the field chasing illegal aliens and apprehending—unabated.

They are working while not being paid and all leave is cancelled while the govt is “shut-down.”


7 posted on 10/03/2013 1:24:27 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: ColdOne

Is such an order, regardless of source, lawful?

Can the president issue a blanket order such as this?

At what point is a state governor FORCED to recognize that the federal government represents a hostile threat, and take the appropriate actions?


8 posted on 10/03/2013 1:25:07 PM PDT by Safrguns (PM me if you like to play Minecraft!)
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To: ColdOne

Recruitment effort. The government’s eVerify system, used to verify that potential employees have legal status to work in the United States has been shut down along with the WWII memorial. So, time to open the borders.Have to swell the ranks - get more dem candidates into the country in preparation for the Dream act etc. They’ll need jobs so suppress eVerify.


9 posted on 10/03/2013 1:26:06 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: G Larry

El Bienvenidos Wagon?

They demand the laws they like be enforced and ignore the ones they don’t like, or actively subvert them.
This struggle is less about the budget than it is about the nature of federalism and our future as a nation.


10 posted on 10/03/2013 1:27:15 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Hulka

What? They are not paying people protecting the border? What exactly is essential besides protecting the border?


11 posted on 10/03/2013 1:32:01 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: tumblindice

Volunteers needed to help build MOATs at the border - then we should stock it with pyranah fish! Who needs agents, just let the fish do the work...(Satire)


12 posted on 10/03/2013 1:32:37 PM PDT by princess leah
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To: Hulka

I would have thought the Border Patrol were “excepted employees” and on the job 24/7.

If so, ordering them to stand down and not to the job they are being paid for is endangering U.S. security.

the Obatyrant must luv it!


13 posted on 10/03/2013 1:34:54 PM PDT by Gasshog (Welcome to the United States of Stupidos!)
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To: PghBaldy

That is true.

They are not paid. . .just like those federal non-essential bureaucrats, but those bureaucrats get to sit at home and wait for back-pay (never earning that back-pay).


14 posted on 10/03/2013 1:35:29 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: ColdOne

Of course they are. Obama cares nothing about laws he can’t use to destroy the US, so he just ignores them.


15 posted on 10/03/2013 1:37:28 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (From time to time the tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: Gasshog

They are essential but they are not paid. . .they have to report to work because they are “excepted” but that is it.

Those non-essential types get to stay home and wait for back-pay for work they didn’t do, whereas the BP Agents have to work for their back-pay.


16 posted on 10/03/2013 1:41:59 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: Gasshog

“If so, ordering them to stand down and not to the job they are being paid for is endangering U.S. security”

Oh, and they received no such order to stand down and they remain active and busy.


17 posted on 10/03/2013 1:42:46 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: Doogle
You are certainly correct, but there is more.
By unmanning our borders he is simply moving ahead more vigorously with the transformation of our nation.
18 posted on 10/03/2013 1:42:52 PM PDT by frog in a pot ("To each according to his need..." -from a guy who never had a real job and couldn't feed his family)
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To: frog in a pot

They are not “unmanning the border.”

The BP Agents are “excepted” and therefore still at full strength and busy on the border, chasing illegal aliens and drug smugglers. (They just aren’t getting paid. . .now).


19 posted on 10/03/2013 1:47:21 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: princess leah

Piranha, doing the work Americans won’t do...


20 posted on 10/03/2013 1:47:48 PM PDT by PTBAA
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To: Hulka
Ok, just read your comments. If Shawn Moran, Vice President of the National Border Patrol Council is blowing smoke, the agents on duty will be the first to know of it.

Wonder why he would risk/forfeit his credibility with the agent community on such an easily verifiable point? (Or did I read all of this too quickly and miss a fine point?)

21 posted on 10/03/2013 1:53:07 PM PDT by frog in a pot ("To each according to his need..." -from a guy who never had a real job and couldn't feed his family)
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To: ColdOne

If BP was told to stand down in my area, they are not listening. They have been pretty busy here the last few days and were indeed busy today already chasing smugglers. I have not seen the BP helicopter the last few days when I usually see it every day but not sure that is related.


22 posted on 10/03/2013 1:58:07 PM PDT by Tammy8 ( ~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: ColdOne

No surprise. Beginning with the Bush admin, the border has been a joke.


23 posted on 10/03/2013 2:00:34 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: PghBaldy

Essential people are working and being told they will be paid at some point.

Non-essential people were sent home- presumably without pay, though they may be paid later if they are salaried employees- that depends on what is put in the CR/budget whenever one is agreed on.


24 posted on 10/03/2013 2:01:09 PM PDT by Tammy8 ( ~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: ColdOne
Exclusive--Border Patrol Rep Claims Agents Being Ordered to Stand Down

When one of Hussein's muzzie bros brings a nuke across the unguarded border and detonates it in an American city, it will be instant IMPEACHMENT and REMOVAL for the 0bama regime!

25 posted on 10/03/2013 2:02:15 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Who but a TYRANT shoves down another man's throat what he has exempted himself from?)
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To: Safrguns

What happens when a President orders every agency in the government to violate the laws of the country?


26 posted on 10/03/2013 2:08:24 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: frog in a pot

Not sure why he would make a statement that is not true. I imagine like most things there is some truth to it; BP in my area seem like business as usual, chasing smugglers like every other day. Some support may not be available to them- I have not seen any helicopters up but don’t know if that is part of this. Stand down may not be exactly what they were told- I spoke to some BP yesterday and all they said they have been told is go to work and they would get paid at some point, their pay may not be on schedule.


27 posted on 10/03/2013 2:14:56 PM PDT by Tammy8 ( ~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: frog in a pot
The NBPC is the BP union. They supported Obama.

That explains a lot.

Not sure what part of what I am saying conflicts with the NBPC (union)?

I report Agents are excepted and still report to work, don’t get paid, and paid leave is cancelled and there is no stand-down order on the border.

Their might be an Agent or two that is doing the union-work-slow-down thing, but not many.

From NBPC website: “We want to clarify a few things with the looming shut down. 1. Border Patrol agents are required to report for duty. We are “exempt” from furlough, meaning that unlike many other government employees who don’t actually report to work, we will report for work. 2. We will not be paid until a funding mechanism. . .”

So, Agents still go to work.

The BP Union has a history of corruption, not saying Shawn is corrupt, but thing is, it is shot full of corruption: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/08/17/ex-border-patrol-union-president-indicted/

I find no comment from Shawn regarding a stand-down order. . .and my son (just talked with him moments ago to make sure I have the facts correct), verifies no stand-down order. Cheers.

28 posted on 10/03/2013 2:19:11 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: ColdOne

Unfortunately too many GOP support this...and the last GOP President jailed our Border Patrol based on the lies of Illegal Alien drug dealer

Unless one is committed to 100% Deportation....they support Illegal Alien Amnesty


29 posted on 10/03/2013 2:31:41 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Fact Is: GOPe want ObamaCare.)
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To: Hulka; Tammy8
I find no comment from Shawn regarding a stand-down order. . .

Just to clarify, from the source article:
"Shawn Moran, Vice President of the National Border Patrol Council...claimed that Border Patrol management has begun the practice of ordering Border Patrol Agents to stand down and cease pursuing drug smugglers, human smugglers and traffickers, and illegal aliens."

This may be a very old "claim"; seem to recall such several months ago. Based on what you are saying, supported by credible sources, this does not appear to be the result of the current "shutdown".

Thank you for your responses.

30 posted on 10/03/2013 2:38:17 PM PDT by frog in a pot ("To each according to his need..." -from a guy who never had a real job and couldn't feed his family)
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To: G Larry

That someone else is BIG SIS picking them up in a bus and driving them over to the welfare and voting registration office


31 posted on 10/03/2013 2:50:42 PM PDT by spawn44 (moo)
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To: ColdOne

The border patrol personnel could be paid if Air Force One was grounded.

The most ancient and foremost reason for governments to exist was to defend the borders. Our government is failing at its most fundamental purpose! Any other activity is secondary and of less importance.


32 posted on 10/03/2013 3:04:07 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: ColdOne
WOW!

The Dems sure have a lot of blood on their hands!!!!!

33 posted on 10/03/2013 3:12:41 PM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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To: ColdOne
WOW!

The Dems sure have a lot of blood on their hands!!!!!

34 posted on 10/03/2013 3:12:43 PM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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To: ColdOne

Clown Prince nobama and his Clown Car administration goons hate Citizens of Free America. They are desperate now as they are realizing that their days are numbered. One can only hope that justice will find them all.


35 posted on 10/03/2013 3:13:59 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: ColdOne

Perry should call up the NG.


36 posted on 10/03/2013 3:26:47 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: ColdOne

Just tripped down I-35 enroute to Laredo. Do it several times a week. Northbound checkpoint is operating as usual and I spotted numerous agents all along the way from San Antonio to Laredo


37 posted on 10/03/2013 4:14:57 PM PDT by CARTOUCHE (This nation is teats up.)
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To: ColdOne

the little islamist says so. That’s why.


38 posted on 10/03/2013 4:22:50 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: ColdOne

And you can bet your family’s treasure that the neo-Nazi, racist POS Holder is behind this.

He’s daring the Republican cowards to come and get him. If the gutless RINO worms had even a sliver of courage, they would order the US Marshals to arrest that traitor for treason. And if the marshals refused, call up the 2ndmarDiv to arrest both Holder and the marshals.


39 posted on 10/03/2013 4:56:29 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: ColdOne

So let me understand things. With the government shutdown, the Border Patrol won’t put up barriers to foreigners, but the Park Service will put up barriers to U.S. citizens. OK. Got it.


40 posted on 10/03/2013 5:36:34 PM PDT by Flick Lives (The U.S. is dead to me.)
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To: ColdOne

National sovereignty is not ‘essential’ government function in Obama’s world. Period.

We know his priorities are - to hurt Americans as much as he can.


41 posted on 10/04/2013 5:02:10 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: frog in a pot

Appreciate the civil exchange. Refreshing.

Yes, Basically what Shawn has said regarding manipulating patrol areas and staffing efforts/focuses are true.

The end result is misapplication of resources, therefore less captures, meaning the DHS and Obama can say; “See, numbers are down so we are effective in protecting the border.” Which, of course, is a lie.

The BP Agents in the field are frustrated over being told by DC where they can go and not go. The Agents know where they are needed and can have the most impact. When DC sets areas of focus and non-focus (I guess you can say “stand down” in an area), the Agents get angry for they hate being manipulated for partisan purposes.


42 posted on 10/04/2013 11:18:37 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: ColdOne

I’ve been wanting to move 2 tons of cocaine into the US. Thanks, Obama!


43 posted on 10/04/2013 1:46:45 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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