Skip to comments.G.O.P. Elders See Liabilities in Shutdown
Posted on 10/04/2013 5:26:37 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
The hard-line stance of Republican House members on the government shutdown is generating increasing anger among senior Republican officials, who say the small bloc of conservatives is undermining the party and helping President Obama just as the American people appeared to be losing confidence in him.
Fighting with the president is one thing, said Senator Roy Blunt, Republican of Missouri. Fighting with the president and losing is another thing. When youre in the minority you need to look really hard to find the fights you can win.
And on Wednesday at a private luncheon, several Senate Republicans Dan Coats of Indiana, Ron Johnson of Wisconsin and Kelly Ayotte of New Hampshire assailed Senator Ted Cruz of Texas, who has led the movement to block funding for the health law.
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Remember WHY you are in the minority in the Senate, a-holes.
Another NY Slimes article wanting to “help” the Republican Party. Whoda thunk it???
GOP Weak knees.
They are also leaking to media claiming that they cornered Cruz and demanded that he state his end game win plan and that he told them he has none.
Hey Roy...let me be blunt:
The only reason they'd be losing is due to losers....much like yourself.
I’m so thankful that my Father, who fought in WWll, Korea and Vietnam and our forefathers didn’t say, “When youre in the minority you need to look really hard to find the fights you can win.”
the hard stance of republicans. HUH, er it’s the GOP trying to open the Govt with these bills and it is the Democrats who won’t open them and are acting like little babies who want their own way.
Another hit piece by the corrupt media.
The people getting upset is always a liablitly for the “elders” because power may soon be wrested from their grubby hands!
The GOP-E is collectivist to the core just like Dems.
Senators Roy Blunt, Dan Coats, Ron Johnson and Kelly Ayotte
have all promised that they, their families,
and their staff, HAVE ENROLLED IN OBAMACARE.
... or have they?
Mr. Boehner, I know your office is being flooded with concerned citizens contacting you and I know likely this note won’t make a huge difference either. But I have the obligation to future generations to try.
You are inside the beltway fighting hard to keep your team together through this difficult and frightening time. And for that you are to be commended. Don’t forget though to step back for a moment and view this “mess” from a larger perspective and this is what my note is about.
We’re working hard to get the word out about how Obama, Reid, and Pelosi refuse to fund the government. But the truth we see in that regard, is 0bama et al, will not negotiate on anything going forward. In fact, many of us believe this strategy has been planned for sometime now and the President is willfully going to crash the United States economy. Why would he have even already tried to rattle the markets? Many of us on the outside are connecting the dots very, very quickly that they are moving in a very intentional manner to bring about an end that millions of people will wake up to in absolute horror.
Speaker Boehner, now is the time of the Patriot. Lives, fortunes, and sacred honor are at stake. Keep trying to fund the portions of the government, history will accurately recount these efforts as well as the petulancy of a progressive party.
God’s Speed and God Bless the United States.
The House controls the purse strings. You're NOT in the minority.
It’s surprising they are willing to share their insight. You would think they would be happy with a shutdown since it would be so devastating to the GOP. They are magnanimous after all. /SARCASM ALERT
If all the red states simultaneously implemented an advertising surcharge on the mainstream media... They’d stop the propaganda in a millisecond.
Just think: if all the self-important congress-critters had to be under Obamacare, 3/4 of them would be sitting in end-of-life counseling sessions. No wonder they ran like hell to exempt themselves!
government shutdown is generating increasing anger among senior Republican officials
These would be the same “officials” who run from EVERY battle. They are losers who stand for nothing except for accomodation and appeasement, which is why the GOP is in the sad state that it is today. They have destroyed the party and now want to dictate to others how to run it.
These are the same geniuses who brought us Dole, McCain and Romney
Roy Blunt needs to be primaried. Missouri pay attention.
A recent Bloomberg survey found that 40 percent blame the GOP for what’s wrong in Washington, while 38 percent blame the president and congressional Democrats. Back in February, Obama had a nine-point edge over Republicans and independents were evenly divided over who was responsible. Now, 42 percent of independents fault with Obama and his allies in Congress, while 34 percent blame Republicans on Capitol Hill.
The latest CNN poll found a similar trend, with the percentage who blame congressional Republicans for a government shutdown down five points and the percent who blame Obama up three points.
WE need to send this to the worried ones crying in the corner,,maybe it will help them take heart
The House controls the purse strings.
EXACTLY! This is the mantra that the GOP should be shouting at every opportunity.
Democrats are saying that Obamacare is the law. Republicans should retort by saying that under the Constitution the House controls the purse strings and decides what, when and how much to spend. It is the voice of the people making those decisions, not the Senate or the president.
1) jealous because Cruz is the statesman that none of them will ever be
2) scared because they’re losing the fight with US.
The old GOP RINO’s need to get on-board their ice floe and keep their mouths shut. If they want us to be burdened with Obamacare, then then should just be honest and switch over to the Democrat Party.
I heard on the radio that the Republicans want to use defunding Obamacare as a negotiating tool.
Note to Republican politicians:
READ OUR LIPS-
WE. DO. NOT. WANT. OBAMACARE!!!!!
IF YOU VALUE YOUR JOBS AND THE PARTY DEFUND. DEFUND. DEFUND!!!!
Their sudden concern for the well-being and viability of the Republican Party is touching. /sarc
GOP Elders are the cowards who repeatedly ducked and survived. If only a few of them had bravely taken MSM bullets upon occasion, America would not be in the condition it is in today.
It's OK ... you'll not have to be troubled any longer in a few months.
I sincerely hope and pray that the Republicans “forget” to open the EPA...for a few decades!
Think what a spur to the economy it would be if businesses didn't have to worry about complying with laws based on the AGW hoax!
The plan is simple -- just keep doing what they are doing and keep the "nonessential" parts of government shutdown until the Senate approves a balanced budget without the nonessentials and without Obamascare.
...the usual suspects.
Schuck it Roy Blunt; schuck it hard and schuck it long.
If the political winds should suddenly shift and the “one funding bill at a time” strategy starts to chip away at the Democrats’ resistance, watch all the RINOs attempt to jump on the bandwagon and claim they were always for a shutdown/defund.
Like the old saying goes, success has many fathers. Nowhere is this more true than in politics.
NOW the NY Times seeks the advice and counsel of old, white men.
You’re an elder after you retire with dignity. When you are still in office you’re just an old fvck that nobody gives a crap about.
LOL, that’s hilarious.
The house should pass a law stating that it is illegal to default on the debt, before that happens all agencies would have to be cut to 75% of their 2012 budget numbers. The only exception being the military.
The Republican Party needs new “Elders”.
Yes, we need to keep track of the senile Neville Chamberlain imitators that want us to give up.
If the The UnAffordable HealthCare Act stays, most of them will CERTAINLY be tossed out.
I will be voting third party to show my support for almost any Conservative that is NOT Republican if the hideous monster that will harm all our health and paychecks is allowed to live. I will vote third party even if I don't think my candidate will win, just to see the GOP fail.
They need us Conservatives, they need to stop listening to the Dems and MSNBC when they call us “extremists” and “exotics”.
If the Republicans stop Obamacare, they can pretend like they were against it all along and they might have a chance at sticking around.
It makes me wonder that no one in their families ever spoke to them about doing the right thing?!
Start with funding the VA. Again and again until the Dems give in. Focus on funding the high visibility stuff first and demonstrate that the government can and should be funded one department at a time.
Its just amazing how inept, clumsy and weak most of the Republican Party is.
G.O.P. Elders? They are idiots that got us into this mess to begin with. They can go jump in lake.
You’d think they would have learned by now that the “squishy middle” doesn’t win elections. Either you stand for one set of values or the other.
the senile Neville Chamberlain imitators
“Compromise in our time.” lol
The Surrender Caucus speaks out.
That’s all these people think about. Does it hurt the GOP....
Obamacare hurts this nation, it is bad law. It must go.
What the heck REAL solution do these ‘elders’ have? Letting it go to fall under its own weight ISN’T a plan or a solution.
It is gambling and even if it does fall, the odds of getting rid of it are poor.
Why needlessly antagonize people? We need all Republican senators and representatives to stand firm. Sure. There are a few, like Senator McCain, who are openly aiding and abetting our political enemies, but many others are reasonably on our side.
Anyone who has ever had to work with teams of people should understand this. You can be 100% right and still lose. We can’t go into this sounding like a bunch of anarchists who are completely indifferent to the shutdown and its impact.
It bothers me that someone like Senator Ayotte has flip flopped so radically since her election. She was a “Tea Party” pick. Now she’s for amnesty and has apparently gone squishy on funding Obamacare. Some would probably want to write her off, but I wonder how she could have changed so quickly. She must have been either a stealth moderate to start with, or she was open to moderate influence.
My point? It doesn’t matter if Senator Cruz and the other conservatives are fighting for the right things. They have to convince and encourage others to join them. Otherwise, Speaker Boehner will fold with Democrat and RINO votes, and Harry Reid will have 60 votes to overcome even a filibuster.
It’s bad enough that the media is out to get us. We can’t afford to give them ANY ammo. Conservatives are for responsible, smaller government. We’re the ones who want to pay the bills, honor existing promises, and save the government from default.
You can also try to send this to Eric Cantor, the House Majority Leader, and cc your own representative and senators. I managed to actually talk to someone in Cantor’s office last week. Your message is a good one.
What is ‘fighting WITH the president’?
Which president are we talking about?
What the heck REAL solution do these elders have?
None. That’s why the party is a complete mess. No solutions, no direction, and no principles.
They are not ‘elders’, they are losers.