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Obama Showing His Vindictive Streak
Townhall.com ^ | October 4, 2013 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 10/04/2013 6:59:01 AM PDT by Kaslin

Shutting down the government in an effort to use a budget fight to get rid of Obamacare is not the strategy I would have recommended for the GOP. And while Republicans can be blamed for starting the shutdown, it's increasingly apparent that President Obama and the Democrats deserve the lion's share of blame for not only prolonging it, but for making it as painful as possible.

Obama has always had a bit of a vindictive streak when it comes to politics. I think it stems from his Manichaean view of America. There are the reasonable people -- who agree with him. And there are the bitter clingers who disagree for irrational or extremist ideological reasons.

In his various statements over the last week, he's insisted that opponents of Obamacare are "ideologues" on an "ideological crusade." Meanwhile, he cast himself as just a reasonable guy interested in solving America's problems. I have no issue with him calling Republican opponents "ideologues" -- they are -- but since when is Obama not an ideologue?

The argument about Obamacare is objectively and irrefutably ideological on both sides -- state-provided health care has been an ideological brass ring for the left for well over a century. But much of the press takes its cues from Democrats and sees this fight -- and most other political fights -- as a contest pitting the forces of moderation, decency and rationality against the ranks of the ideologically brainwashed.

What's unusual is the way Obama sees the government as a tool for his ideological agenda. During the fight over the sequester, Obama ordered the government to make the 2 percent budget cut as painful and scary as possible.

"It's going to be very painful for the flying public," Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood warned Americans.

"The FAA's all-hands furloughs managed to convert a less than 4 percent FAA budget cut into a 10 percent air-traffic control cut that would delay 40 percent of flights," The Wall Street Journal noted at the time.

The Department of Homeland Security announced it might not be able to protect the nation's borders, and in an effort to prove the point summarily released a couple thousand immigrant detainees, many of them with criminal records.

Obama, the avowed problem solver, set out to create problems for the American people, just to prove how great government is and how crazy Republicans were for wanting to cut spending -- much of the money borrowed from China -- a little. But don't you dare call him an ideologue!

Now, with the government shutdown and the looming fight over the debt ceiling, Obama's doubling down this ideologically perverse strategy.

The National Park Service, which has somehow become the unofficial goon squad of American liberalism, reversed course and let American World War II vets visit the WWII memorial in Washington, D.C. This is obviously good news. (I was waiting to see if Steven Spielberg would come out with a new Obama-friendly director's cut of "Saving Private Ryan" in which the old guy at the end is dragged off in cuffs before he can reach Tom Hanks' grave.)

Still, it cost the government more money to try to keep WWII vets out of an open-air memorial than it would have to just leave it be. In Virginia, the NPS ordered the Claude Moore Colonial Farm to shut down, even though it's privately funded.

Far worse, Obama told CNBC's John Harwood that Wall Street should be far more panicky about Republican efforts to use the debt ceiling to win concessions from the White House. I don't blame Obama for being annoyed with Republicans for trying to use the debt ceiling the exact same way he did when he was a senator. But normally the president doesn't try to talk down the economy just to win a political point.

Whenever the Bush administration issued terror warnings, Democrats insinuated that it was all a cynical political stunt. But this week, the White House sent out National Intelligence Director James Clapper to whip up fears that national security would be imperiled by a shutdown less than 48 hours old.

When Republicans vote to fund essential or popular parts of the government, the response from Democrats is, in effect, "How dare they?" Nancy Pelosi calls the tactic "releasing one hostage at a time" -- as if negotiators normally refuse to have hostages released unless it's all at once.

In the 17 previous government shutdowns since 1977, presidents have worked to avoid them or lessen their impact. Obama has made no such effort out of an ideological yearning to punish his enemies, regardless of the collateral damage.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: demonrats; govshutdown; jamesclapper; republicans; resident0bama; scaretactic; typicalliberal

1 posted on 10/04/2013 6:59:01 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

This is why the Founding Fathers warned us about electing an America-hating foreigner to the presidency. Bad move.


2 posted on 10/04/2013 7:01:21 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The DemocRAT Pahtay! Spending our grandchildren's future, today!)
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To: Kaslin

Obama Showing His Vindictive Streak.....AGAIN.

imho, fixed headline.


3 posted on 10/04/2013 7:03:57 AM PDT by 4integrity
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To: Kaslin
All he's done since being elected is show his vindictive streak. He's a leftwing campus punk.

The GOP had better not back down this time.

4 posted on 10/04/2013 7:04:34 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Kaslin

Vindictive?

The man is a pure psychopath.


5 posted on 10/04/2013 7:04:45 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: skeeter

He showed it big time when he instructed the IRS to audit Ben Carson because Carson made him look like a fool. When is he going to get pegged for the IRS targeting? I’m sick of that little power loving tyrant.


6 posted on 10/04/2013 7:06:06 AM PDT by dandiegirl
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To: Kaslin
VINDICTIVE, thy name is Obama...


7 posted on 10/04/2013 7:06:24 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Is John's moustache long enough YET?)
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To: Kaslin
Shutting down the government in an effort to use a budget fight to get rid of Obamacare is not the strategy I would have recommended for the GOP.

Jonah just makes me mad sometimes.

Shutting down the government, is not a strategy chosen by the GOP.
The House controls the purse strings. The House decided not to fund Obamacare.
The House passed a budget that would keep the government open.
This is straightforward stuff. It's strictly by-the-Constitution.

The DEMOCRATS made the decision to shut down the government, and they are doing it in the most painful way possible.

It COMPLETELY MISSES THE POINT to imply that the Republicans have adopted a poor strategy.

8 posted on 10/04/2013 7:06:41 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (21st century. I'm not a fan.)
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To: Kaslin
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9 posted on 10/04/2013 7:06:53 AM PDT by baddog 219
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To: Kaslin

..all narcissists have it, especially when in trouble or their many faults are shown. In clownie’s case,it’s associated with racism and hatred for the USA


10 posted on 10/04/2013 7:07:14 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: dandiegirl
One of the articles of impeachment against Richard Nixon was misuse of the IRS.

But that we're talking about The Won now, not Tricky Dick.

11 posted on 10/04/2013 7:10:59 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: baddog 219

We all know the words coming out Obama’s mouth are from Valerie Jarrett’s mind so we shouldn’t be surprised that ‘payback’ is their focus.


12 posted on 10/04/2013 7:11:36 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Is John's moustache long enough YET?)
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To: Kaslin

Conservatives cannot get their message to the general public via newspapers, TV, magazines, or most radio stations. Public schools and universities are actively propagandizing against conservative positions.

Somehow, we conservatives need to get the truth to the uniformed and misinformed. How about billboards? I suggest we buy them up coast to coast and tell our side of the story.

This President and his gang are masters at manipulating the public with threats and lies. Truth is on our side; let’s shout it out loud.


13 posted on 10/04/2013 7:12:39 AM PDT by July4
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To: Doogle

And he shows it openly


14 posted on 10/04/2013 7:13:18 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: baddog 219

Forgot the href


15 posted on 10/04/2013 7:21:07 AM PDT by upchuck (nobamacare must be stopped before it can live down to our expectations.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Indeed. The ossified GOP elites, with whom I lump Goldberg, are being purposefully obtuse and establishmentarian. They have no clue about how to formulate a strategy nor how to win a fight. It’s all about “Picking your fights” with them, somehow failing to notice that the Stalinists are relentlessly fighting on every front, every moment of every day, to destroy every vestige of liberty. When you “pick your fights” you are choosing a starting point where you concede defeat in innumerable arenas without even bothering to act. In short, they are lazy and vapid hacks, comfortable with their lives.


16 posted on 10/04/2013 7:28:00 AM PDT by crusher (Political Correctness: Stalinism Without the Charm)
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To: chris37

Inbreeding muslims breed psychopaths. How much inbreeding was there in Obama father’s family? Did they marry within the tribe to “keep the tribe strong”? Anybody know?


17 posted on 10/04/2013 7:31:25 AM PDT by abclily
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To: Kaslin

Captain Barry Queeg lives in the White House.


18 posted on 10/04/2013 7:31:32 AM PDT by windsorknot (>>>)
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To: crusher

Laura Ingram also said this shutdown was name. Even Ted Cruz admits it won’t get rid of Obamcare. So is Laura Ingram a rino too?


19 posted on 10/04/2013 7:33:26 AM PDT by Blackirish (Forward Comrades!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Kaslin

This guy is all about 1960’s Saul Alinsky/Abby Hoffman in-your-face radical Leftist politics.


20 posted on 10/04/2013 7:35:22 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: ClearCase_guy

Obama loves this shutdown. The repubs have no exit strategy and can no longer even articulate why they are doing it. Obama was never, ever going to back down on Obamcare. Now he’s got the media and the bully pulpit to pound the GOP into submission. Pickets Charge from the get go.


21 posted on 10/04/2013 7:37:19 AM PDT by Blackirish (Forward Comrades!!!!!!!!!)
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To: skeeter
I am all for this strategy....

Time to make EVERYONE feel some pain...

If it creates anarchy, all the better. Quicker we get to the bottom, the quicker we can start rebuilding.

Burn this whole thing down..

22 posted on 10/04/2013 7:54:08 AM PDT by Fedupwithit (Your opinion: It's all yours....don't expect me to listen to it, or even acknowledge it..)
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To: Kaslin

First American president who is actually anti-American. Do anything to destroy the American ideal. Five hundred years from now Obama will be held in vile hatefulness .... like Caligula of Rome.


23 posted on 10/04/2013 7:55:07 AM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral)
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To: Blackirish

no, the repubs in the House will just keep sending over spending bills to fund certain areas. Just like it was before 0bama’s America killing strategy of no budgets and omnibills so big that nobody knows what’s in them.

LOL I think it would be funny for the house to send a 2700 page bill that they say will work for Barry - give him 20 minutes to read it under debt ceiling time pressure. Then we see when we read it that for one thing, 0bamacare is repealed in some random place in the bill. lol


24 posted on 10/04/2013 8:00:24 AM PDT by Principled
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To: Kaslin

Jonah is a surrender monkey. It’s precisely the perfect strategy because the ‘Rats never expected it. The element of surprise stupid.


25 posted on 10/04/2013 8:19:45 AM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: Blackirish

Freedom isn’t an exit strategy. Surrender monkeys never win.


26 posted on 10/04/2013 8:21:25 AM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: Blackirish

Obama is like FDR will the goal of “unconditional surrender.” The difference is that Obama hates the Republicans more than FDR hated the Nazis.


27 posted on 10/04/2013 8:26:07 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Kaslin

His speech yesterday was characterized with statements from pundits like, “he is in campaign mode.” They commented how happy he seemed to be, laughing, joking and using an accent like a punk rapper. In the few clips I saw, he is, was and always will be a community organizer, an agitator, not a leader. The reason why Ted Cruz did what he did is because he is a leader. He is leading the country to the truth about the progressives and their lies.


28 posted on 10/04/2013 8:31:21 AM PDT by thirst4truth (www.Believer.com)
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To: skeeter

In retrospect Nixon was shafted and an angel compered to Obastard the Red.


29 posted on 10/04/2013 8:32:11 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Blackirish

I’m not enamored with the RINO epithet, I simply identify Goldberg and Ingraham as “wrong.” Whether or not the shut-down terminates ACA, it is the right thing to fight over. Somewhere there has to be a hill you die on. I think this is that hill. If nothing else, a spirited and ruthless contest strikes fear into the hearts of your enemies (and yes, the Democraps are enemies of America). think how well such a strategy has worked on the GOPe. they know that the Dems will come after them relentlessly and take no prisoners. Hence, the GOPe cowers like the Quislings they are.

This “picking your fight” rhetoric and strategy is the posture of losers. Which the Rebuttlikins are. What ever happened to Churchill’s “Never give up. Never give up. Never give up.”


30 posted on 10/04/2013 8:46:31 AM PDT by crusher (Political Correctness: Stalinism Without the Charm)
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To: Kaslin

Mean-spirited Democrats and their fellow-travelers in the media......


31 posted on 10/04/2013 8:55:50 AM PDT by expat2
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To: July4
Conservatives cannot get their message to the general public...

I said it here before, the republicans are having their message nationalized by the MSM. The Dems and MSM are filling the air with lies, but the real story is leaking out. At this point the House needs to stand their ground.

32 posted on 10/04/2013 8:57:22 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Producing Talk Show Prep since 1998.)
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To: Kaslin

“In the 17 previous government shutdowns since 1977, presidents have worked to avoid them or lessen their impact. Obama has made no such effort out of an ideological yearning to punish his enemies, regardless of the collateral damage.”

Small man of great evil.


33 posted on 10/04/2013 9:31:01 AM PDT by paterfamilias
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To: FlingWingFlyer

+1!


34 posted on 10/04/2013 10:22:15 AM PDT by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: 4integrity
Obama Showing His Vindictive Streak.....AGAIN.

imho, fixed headline.

Obama The Fag Showing His Its Vindictive Streak.

Jesus Christ: You can’t impeach Him and He ain’t going to resign.



35 posted on 10/04/2013 10:45:42 AM PDT by rdb3
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36 posted on 10/04/2013 10:47:49 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: SkyDancer

“Five hundred years from now Obama will be held in vile hatefulness . . .”

Ophonybama is held in vile hatefulness RIGHT NOW!

I would like to call Ophonybama out for what he really is, but I don’t want to be exiled FRom FReeRepublic for cursing, so I won’t actually print my thoughts.

But you all can guess what I want to say!

Oh, how I hope and pray the American peoples will come to support Ophonybama’s IMPEACHMENT, CONVICTION AND INCARCERATION FOR LIFE!

And, while we are at it, his LIEberal posse as well!


37 posted on 10/04/2013 10:59:26 AM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: crusher

I disagree. You don’t pick hills to die on. You fight to win.
Picking a hill to die on could mean handing over House to Nancy Pelosi.


38 posted on 10/04/2013 12:01:49 PM PDT by Blackirish (Forward Comrades!!!!!!!!!)
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To: skeeter


39 posted on 10/04/2013 12:09:33 PM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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To: 4integrity
Obama Showing His Vindictive Streak.....AGAIN.

imho, fixed headline.

Set it up as a secondary headline to EVERY story about Obama, and number them serially.

The guy is off-the-hook full of hate of America, and he fully intends to drive us down into the dirt, then drown us in the mud.

40 posted on 10/04/2013 4:07:04 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Taxman
I don’t want to be exiled FRom FReeRepublic for cursing

You don't have to curse, swear, or spew venom to point out that a man holding high office is a catamite, or a sometime escort for plutocratic men who enjoyed manly company .....

41 posted on 10/04/2013 4:12:19 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: VRW Conspirator
... the republicans are having their message nationalized by the MSM. The Dems and MSM are filling the air with lies, ...

Mark Halperin (Hillary fan, sometime Clinton Admin staffer and son of traitor/Clintonite Morton Halperin, later chief political editor of TIME) bragged about it last summer to Charlie Rose, on PBS's GOP convention coverage.

After Clint Eastwood gave his great "empty chair" speech, Halperin was clearly stung, and blurted out that nobody in America would ever see that speech, his Media fellow-soldiers had already made sure, by tight scheduling of their exiguous convention coverage (only PBS carried the speech) that the most effective convention messages put together by the RNC would be "filtered out, edited and rewritten and reinterpreted into incomprehensibility" by the Media before it ever reached the People.

He said this on-air, without a bit of hesitation or remorse, and obviously confident that he would be universally "covered" and protected for having been bold to say so, so far out of bounds of any description of media fairness. He admitted right out in the open that he and the rest of Media were out to screw the Republicans any way they could, but mostly by destroying their message and seeing to it, like a faithless and enemy postal service, that the message was never delivered.

42 posted on 10/04/2013 4:20:28 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Blackirish

If the shutdown ends very badly for the Repubs, then do people like Peter King, Karl Rove, and other more moderate repubs are owed apologies?


43 posted on 10/04/2013 5:45:09 PM PDT by yongin
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To: yongin

No. I don’t like this whole fight. I no fan of Mcain or Rove but to start apologizing would make us weak. I guess why people flame me here is I been optimistic. Obama’s poll numbers down. Record mistrust of government. We have good shot at picking up senate. Old bag Hillary entirely beatable. Obamcare already disaster. Why get in way with shutdown? You think if employment numbers were good they wouldn’t have released them.? If not for shutdown bad employment numbers and collapse of Obamcare websites would be front pages. Now it’s all about the shutdown .


44 posted on 10/04/2013 6:03:42 PM PDT by Blackirish (Forward Comrades!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Blackirish

Jennifer Rubin at the WaPo, writes that the new Fox News Poll shows Repubs like Boehner, McConnell, Tea Party, Ted Cruz, and GOP brand have taken hits in polling. The poll alos shows that while Tea Partiers love Cruz’s filibuster, others think it was just a stunt.

Rubin also thinks by having a bad outcome of the shut down, it will put the “adults” in charge of the GOP. The field is friendly for Senate pickups, but the GOP screw it up in 2014. For example, by having Ted Cruz and the Heritage Action PAC supporting primary challenges to McConnell, Cornyn, and Graham, it could pull away resources from Senate races in WV, AR, and SD. If judging by history, the GOP likes to find ways to throw away Senate seats.


45 posted on 10/04/2013 6:13:48 PM PDT by yongin
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To: lentulusgracchus

Well said!

My command of the English language fails me when I consider Ophonybama. I somehow resort to gutter language when contemplating how much I absolutely hate Ophonybama and his LIEberal posse.

So, I restrain myself, and rely on FReepers such as you to politely disrespect the scumbag sonofabitch!


46 posted on 10/04/2013 6:30:56 PM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: lentulusgracchus
...he and the rest of Media were out to screw the Republicans any way they could, but mostly by destroying their message and seeing to it, like a faithless and enemy postal service, that the message was never delivered.

Nice reply.

Point 1: The MSM has been and will be pushing their refried agenda while cutting the legs of Republicans. This is clear.

Point 2: Allowing Obamacare to be implemented is to chose to never being able to fight again. This is existential. The reality here is Obamacare will assure democrat victories as far as the eye can see. (Republicans want to take away your healthcare, etc., etc.) See point 1. And amnesty by a democrat majority will assure a Democrat president for our lifetime.

Point 3: So, choosing battles carefully is the key, if you choose to fight at all. The only trump card that the Republicans have is the majority in the House which has the Constitutional, almighty purse strings. They have played this trump card, so the game is on. But it is now in overtime.

Point 4: The MSM can block the message, as you stated, but the "rules" are different when the game is in overtime. The MSM thinks they can play the same game with the same rules, now. IOW, the cracks in the mal-messaging are already showing. Obama and Reid have made noticeable gaffes. I spotted a Boehner video on the Bing home page-"this isn't some damn game".

I do not know how this will end. But the republicans have the means to bring this battle to a crescendo on a national level-as it should be.

The goal will be Obamacare being de-funded for a year, if the Republicans play it right.

47 posted on 10/04/2013 9:12:53 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Producing Talk Show Prep since 1998.)
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