Posted on 10/04/2013 11:23:59 AM PDT by redreno
House Democratic leaders believe they have hit on a new way to potentially force House Republican leaders into allowing a vote on a “clean CR” funding the government without any defunding of Obamacare attached.
At last count, as many as two dozen House Republicans appear prepared to vote for a clean CR. With Democrats included, that means a majority of the House of Representatives would vote right now to reopen the government. But the House GOP leadership won’t allow such a vote.
Dems have hit on a way to use a “discharge petition,” which forces a House vote if a majority of Representatives signs it, to try to force the issue. Previously, it was thought this could not work, because a discharge petition takes 30 legislative days to ripen, so if this were tried with the clean CR that passed the Senate, this couldn’t bear fruit until some time in November.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
“Dems move to force Republicans to reopen the government”
Take. Long. Stroll.
Off. Short. Pier.
over Shark infested water.
WaPo’s lost their mojo.
Only the most stupid (e.g., in side the beltway)dorks believe them any more.
Warning to Republicans...do this and you’re history.
Period.
“Warning to Republicans...do this and you’re history.”
I agree.
Wishful thinking by Dems. Hey, how’s that “We Won’t Negotiate” slogan workin’ out for ‘em?!
I hope the Republican house leadership is making sure that it is known that any Republican House member who’s name appears on said petition will become persona-non-grata in the party and lose his or her committee assignments.
How are they going to force the GOP? Have another Reid tantrum hissy fit?
At one point, I would have said, “time for a third party”, or “I’ll never financially support the GOP again”.
But this kind of response is satisfying to Dems. Daily Kos likes to post FR outrages.
So, this being an inadequate response, what is the next step?
Peter King probably has his fingers in this somewhere. He needs to get a serious attitude adjustment by the leadership or his constituents.
Or have Cher Twitter some more death threats to TP'ers.
They’re desperate to hide the Dems’ blocking of SNAP and WIC funds this afternoon.
Every day it’s a new fantasy story about the “moderates revolt”, which never happens. Boehner is protecting these “moderates” from having to vote on the “clean CR” and they love him for it.
Yes. To come this far, and apparently have at least decent poll numbers (since that’s important in this age), and just throw it all away...what’s the good of voting, when the opposition will just steamroll your representation anyway, as if they don’t exist?
There is a simple way for Boehner to avoid this even if democrats get the signatures....adjourn the house before the vote takes place. Then NOTHING can be voted on until the house is back in session...
The dope Lankford needs to go back to Falls Creek and soak his head before he resumes his vital work as program director there.
But now House Democrats say they have found a previously filed bill to use as a discharge petition — one that would fund the government at sequester levels.
The bill in question is the “Government Shutdown Prevention Act,” which was introduced in March by GOP Rep. James Lankford of Oklahoma. As the Congressman’s release describes it:
If Congress fails to approve a budget by the end of each fiscal year, the Government Shutdown Prevention Act would ensure that all operations remain running normally without any interruption of services by automatically triggering a continuing resolution (CR) or short-term, stop-gap spending device. The bill creates an automatic CR for any regular appropriations bill not completed before the end of the fiscal year. After the first 120 days, auto-CR funding would be reduced by one percentage point and would continue to be reduced by that margin every 90 days
Boehner has taken a hard stand yet too many here are openly complaining about him...I dont understand this. Look at the 24 Rs siding with RATS!
I support Boehners efforts...
http://www.speaker.gov/contact
The Constitution says that both chambers have to agree to an adjournment of more than 3 days. Reid would never consent to a House adjournment over this.
-PJ
What a stupid headline.
Harry and Barack are the only ones keeping it “shutdown”
No, too many of the 18 that were supposed to cave have promised Conservative talk show hosts that it was all lies. dims always lie... it is all that they have.
I agree. For the 1st time in a very long time, I am proud of John Boehner for standing strong and toeing the line.
Begin by stripping these turncoats from all their committee positions and tell them to ask the Dems for one.
Thanks..we have to win this...
Any RINO who votes with the RATs has no political career left, IMO.
Never a penny (or a vote) to a LIB, DIM or RINO. Never.
Brendan Buck @Brendan_Buck
Ah, the old discharge petition move. Zero percent of the time it works every time.
Republicans have been quietly revolting and are showing support for a clean CR, including:
Peter T. King of New York,
Charlie Dent of Pennsylvania,
Michael G. Grimm of New York,
Mike Simpson of Idaho,
Devin Nunes of California,
C.W. Bill Young of Florida,
Erik Paulsen of Minnesota,
Frank A. LoBiondo of New Jersey,
Leonard Lance of New Jersey,
Jon Runyan of New Jersey,
Lou Barletta of Pennsylvania,
Jim Gerlach of Pennsylvania,
Michael G. Fitzpatrick of Pennsylvania,
Patrick Meehan of Pennsylvania,
Frank R. Wolf of Virginia,
J. Randy Forbes of Virginia,
Rob Wittman of Virginia and
Scott Rigell of Virginia.
http://blogs.rollcall.com/218/breaking-democrats-to-discharge-gop-bill-to-end-shutdown/
1. The House of Reps has reportedly passed all the budget bills needed to fully fund the entire Leviathan (excepting of course Obammycare)
2. the Obama says he will not negotiate with the Congress
so
Speaker Boehner should give a one minute speech pointing the above out, recess the House, and let the members go home.
the House has done its job. The rest is now up to the Senate and Obama.
easy solution. (and if the House is not in session, quisling members can’t sell out what the House has already accomplished)
The best thing for these guys is to have it both ways- complain about the shutdown, but not vote against it.
Boehner’s letting them do just that.
They’d lose votes from their gov employee constituents if they vote against a “clean CR” and lose votes from conservatives if they vote for it.
Now the senate is a whole different can of worms because their campaigns are heavily influenced by the national media. That’s where the danger is.
That’s the same bunch from 2 days ago.
Peter King is rapidly becoming the House’s John McCain.
If Boehner did that, wouldn’t Obama just call Congress back into session? That is, assuming the Dems had the votes to succeed with this discharge petition plan.
The Constitution says that both chambers have to agree to an adjournment of more than 3 days. Reid would never consent to a House adjournment over this.
True. Also, the Constitution says that the President may convene one or both Houses of Congress. So, if Boehner adjourned the house to prevent a vote on the bill, Obama would just convene the house so it could vote on the bill.
Well if Bohner has any balls he will immediately ask them all to a meeting and threaten to toss their sorry asses off any committees, then do it.
That’s what he did with the Conservatives a while back.
GOP stand your ground and We the People will stand with you. If you surrender, we will walk all over you.
God save the Republic.......
Gotta give credit to the Dems for using all available rules to their advantage. When conservatives try to take advantage of the rules to advance their agenda, the RINOs tell us it’s “inappropriate” and “disrespectful.”
Yup. That's the best way to stop this thing (though, with some of these squishy RINOs, it may not be enough). I'm skeptical, though - I'm worried that Boehner wants it both ways - he wants a "clean" CR to pass, but wants to establish some credibility with conservatives, so he needs to oppose it. The dims' discharge maneuver gives him a way to do both, which is why I'm a bit pessimistic. I don't know if there are enough RINOs who are willing to sign the petition at this point, but if there are, I doubt Boehner is willing/able to exert enough pressure to stop them.
Who cares?
Tell the Dems to buzz off and keep the gov’t shutdown.
There is no alternative at this point. Cripple this beast.
Peter King has been the House's John McCain since at least 1998. Conservatives have just been in denial about it.
At last count, as many as = we’re just making it up.
Their constituencies cannot hold out that long.
House Republicans are NOT “keeping the government closed”. Democrats are!!!
Republicans have voted 4 (FOUR!!!!) times on individual bills that fund all necessary parts of government.
Dems are just throwing a tantrum because they can’t have things their way (one big lump bill without Obamacare), if they can’ play like they want they’ll just not approve anything.
The dems know if the Repubs are able to do this this time, that the House has just realized they have the useful power of the purse and could have been using this all alongm but somewhere along the way had given it up. The House might actually start to use it to reign in Big Government. It scares the democrats to death to think the Republicans might have figured this out.
It is the Dems fault, not the Republicans!
Republicans need to be super aggressive in getting that message out. Dems are holding up funding! Say it over and over until someone finally listens!
DANG IT CofC !
If you hadn't said that, no one on O'bama's team would know!
;-)
I see this story as very good news. There’s no way the Dims would even be thinking about this if they were decisively winning the PR war, like all the media say they are. I think they are the ones feeling the pressure, being willing to end the shutdown with such a maneuver. Highly unlikely it happens though — for the very same reason. If the moderate RINO types think they are at least breaking even holding the line, they have no reason to risk political suicide by signing a Pelosi-led petition.
“No, too many of the 18 that were supposed to cave have promised Conservative talk show hosts that it was all lies. dims always lie... it is all that they have.”
More data on how big of a lie this theme of the crazed liberal mediots is:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3075008/posts
Analysis: Shutdown strategy has wide U.S. Republican support
Reuters ^ | October 4, 2013 | Caren Bohan and Fred Barbash
Posted on Friday, October 04, 2013 2:27:10 PM by LucianOfSamasota
Yeah but they'll be lionized on the Sunday talk shows, be hailed as heroes, and get a big smooch from Nancy Pelosi and...oh scratch that last one.
The enemedia is the enemy!
Every republican who agrees with this should be kicked out of the party. Tell the to go ahead and officially join the democrats.
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