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Dems move to force Republicans to reopen the government
http://www.washingtonpost.com ^ | October 4 at 1:45 pm | By Greg Sargent

Posted on 10/04/2013 11:23:59 AM PDT by redreno

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1 posted on 10/04/2013 11:23:59 AM PDT by redreno
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To: redreno

“Dems move to force Republicans to reopen the government”

Take. Long. Stroll.

Off. Short. Pier.


2 posted on 10/04/2013 11:25:11 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: redreno
LOL....maybe the RINOs will commit mass suicide after all....
3 posted on 10/04/2013 11:25:28 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: F15Eagle

over Shark infested water.


4 posted on 10/04/2013 11:26:58 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: redreno

WaPo’s lost their mojo.

Only the most stupid (e.g., in side the beltway)dorks believe them any more.

Warning to Republicans...do this and you’re history.

Period.


5 posted on 10/04/2013 11:27:26 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Da Coyote

“Warning to Republicans...do this and you’re history.”

I agree.


6 posted on 10/04/2013 11:28:10 AM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: redreno

Wishful thinking by Dems. Hey, how’s that “We Won’t Negotiate” slogan workin’ out for ‘em?!


7 posted on 10/04/2013 11:28:22 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: redreno

I hope the Republican house leadership is making sure that it is known that any Republican House member who’s name appears on said petition will become persona-non-grata in the party and lose his or her committee assignments.


8 posted on 10/04/2013 11:28:23 AM PDT by apillar
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To: redreno

How are they going to force the GOP? Have another Reid tantrum hissy fit?


9 posted on 10/04/2013 11:28:42 AM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: F15Eagle

At one point, I would have said, “time for a third party”, or “I’ll never financially support the GOP again”.

But this kind of response is satisfying to Dems. Daily Kos likes to post FR outrages.

So, this being an inadequate response, what is the next step?


10 posted on 10/04/2013 11:29:17 AM PDT by oblomov
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To: redreno

Peter King probably has his fingers in this somewhere. He needs to get a serious attitude adjustment by the leadership or his constituents.


11 posted on 10/04/2013 11:30:33 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: max americana
How are they going to force the GOP? Have another Reid tantrum hissy fit?

Or have Cher Twitter some more death threats to TP'ers.

12 posted on 10/04/2013 11:31:07 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: redreno

They’re desperate to hide the Dems’ blocking of SNAP and WIC funds this afternoon.

Every day it’s a new fantasy story about the “moderates revolt”, which never happens. Boehner is protecting these “moderates” from having to vote on the “clean CR” and they love him for it.


13 posted on 10/04/2013 11:31:11 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: Da Coyote

Yes. To come this far, and apparently have at least decent poll numbers (since that’s important in this age), and just throw it all away...what’s the good of voting, when the opposition will just steamroll your representation anyway, as if they don’t exist?


14 posted on 10/04/2013 11:31:16 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: apillar

There is a simple way for Boehner to avoid this even if democrats get the signatures....adjourn the house before the vote takes place. Then NOTHING can be voted on until the house is back in session...


15 posted on 10/04/2013 11:31:37 AM PDT by apillar
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To: mrsmith
Thanks for your post. I keep telling myself to not start the crying until we know the song is over.
16 posted on 10/04/2013 11:32:14 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: redreno

The dope Lankford needs to go back to Falls Creek and soak his head before he resumes his vital work as program director there.

But now House Democrats say they have found a previously filed bill to use as a discharge petition — one that would fund the government at sequester levels.

The bill in question is the “Government Shutdown Prevention Act,” which was introduced in March by GOP Rep. James Lankford of Oklahoma. As the Congressman’s release describes it:

If Congress fails to approve a budget by the end of each fiscal year, the Government Shutdown Prevention Act would ensure that all operations remain running normally without any interruption of services by automatically triggering a continuing resolution (CR) or short-term, stop-gap spending device. The bill creates an automatic CR for any regular appropriations bill not completed before the end of the fiscal year. After the first 120 days, auto-CR funding would be reduced by one percentage point and would continue to be reduced by that margin every 90 days


17 posted on 10/04/2013 11:32:29 AM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: redreno

Boehner has taken a hard stand yet too many here are openly complaining about him...I dont understand this. Look at the 24 Rs siding with RATS!

I support Boehners efforts...
http://www.speaker.gov/contact


18 posted on 10/04/2013 11:32:32 AM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: apillar
There is a simple way for Boehner to avoid this even if democrats get the signatures....adjourn the house before the vote takes place. Then NOTHING can be voted on until the house is back in session...

The Constitution says that both chambers have to agree to an adjournment of more than 3 days. Reid would never consent to a House adjournment over this.

-PJ

19 posted on 10/04/2013 11:34:40 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: redreno

What a stupid headline.

Harry and Barack are the only ones keeping it “shutdown”


20 posted on 10/04/2013 11:34:45 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: redreno

No, too many of the 18 that were supposed to cave have promised Conservative talk show hosts that it was all lies. dims always lie... it is all that they have.


21 posted on 10/04/2013 11:34:59 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: rrrod

I agree. For the 1st time in a very long time, I am proud of John Boehner for standing strong and toeing the line.


22 posted on 10/04/2013 11:35:06 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: rightwingextremist1776

Begin by stripping these turncoats from all their committee positions and tell them to ask the Dems for one.


23 posted on 10/04/2013 11:35:20 AM PDT by SCHROLL
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To: combat_boots
Tell the House to

Hold your position!


24 posted on 10/04/2013 11:36:59 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: combat_boots

Thanks..we have to win this...


25 posted on 10/04/2013 11:38:51 AM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: redreno

Any RINO who votes with the RATs has no political career left, IMO.


26 posted on 10/04/2013 11:39:03 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Never a penny (or a vote) to a LIB, DIM or RINO. Never.


27 posted on 10/04/2013 11:41:01 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: redreno

Brendan Buck @Brendan_Buck

Ah, the old discharge petition move. Zero percent of the time it works every time.

Republicans have been quietly revolting and are showing support for a clean CR, including:
Peter T. King of New York,
Charlie Dent of Pennsylvania,
Michael G. Grimm of New York,
Mike Simpson of Idaho,
Devin Nunes of California,
C.W. Bill Young of Florida,
Erik Paulsen of Minnesota,
Frank A. LoBiondo of New Jersey,
Leonard Lance of New Jersey,
Jon Runyan of New Jersey,
Lou Barletta of Pennsylvania,
Jim Gerlach of Pennsylvania,
Michael G. Fitzpatrick of Pennsylvania,
Patrick Meehan of Pennsylvania,
Frank R. Wolf of Virginia,
J. Randy Forbes of Virginia,
Rob Wittman of Virginia and
Scott Rigell of Virginia.

http://blogs.rollcall.com/218/breaking-democrats-to-discharge-gop-bill-to-end-shutdown/


28 posted on 10/04/2013 11:41:11 AM PDT by EBH ( Freeman: A person not in slavery or serfdom.)
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To: redreno

1. The House of Reps has reportedly passed all the budget bills needed to fully fund the entire Leviathan (excepting of course Obammycare)
2. the Obama says he will not negotiate with the Congress
so

Speaker Boehner should give a one minute speech pointing the above out, recess the House, and let the members go home.

the House has done its job. The rest is now up to the Senate and Obama.

easy solution. (and if the House is not in session, quisling members can’t sell out what the House has already accomplished)


29 posted on 10/04/2013 11:43:08 AM PDT by faithhopecharity (Er)
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To: mrsmel

The best thing for these guys is to have it both ways- complain about the shutdown, but not vote against it.
Boehner’s letting them do just that.
They’d lose votes from their gov employee constituents if they vote against a “clean CR” and lose votes from conservatives if they vote for it.

Now the senate is a whole different can of worms because their campaigns are heavily influenced by the national media. That’s where the danger is.


30 posted on 10/04/2013 11:45:53 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: EBH

That’s the same bunch from 2 days ago.


31 posted on 10/04/2013 11:48:39 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Truth29

Peter King is rapidly becoming the House’s John McCain.


32 posted on 10/04/2013 11:55:44 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Is John's moustache long enough YET?)
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To: faithhopecharity

If Boehner did that, wouldn’t Obama just call Congress back into session? That is, assuming the Dems had the votes to succeed with this discharge petition plan.


33 posted on 10/04/2013 11:57:29 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Political Junkie Too
There is a simple way for Boehner to avoid this even if democrats get the signatures....adjourn the house before the vote takes place. Then NOTHING can be voted on until the house is back in session...

The Constitution says that both chambers have to agree to an adjournment of more than 3 days. Reid would never consent to a House adjournment over this.

True. Also, the Constitution says that the President may convene one or both Houses of Congress. So, if Boehner adjourned the house to prevent a vote on the bill, Obama would just convene the house so it could vote on the bill.

34 posted on 10/04/2013 12:00:35 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: EBH

Well if Bohner has any balls he will immediately ask them all to a meeting and threaten to toss their sorry asses off any committees, then do it.

That’s what he did with the Conservatives a while back.


35 posted on 10/04/2013 12:00:57 PM PDT by VRWCarea51
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To: redreno

GOP stand your ground and We the People will stand with you. If you surrender, we will walk all over you.

God save the Republic.......


36 posted on 10/04/2013 12:01:56 PM PDT by Gator113 (The mighty Bear ate the cowardly rat. Obama must resign.)
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To: redreno

Gotta give credit to the Dems for using all available rules to their advantage. When conservatives try to take advantage of the rules to advance their agenda, the RINOs tell us it’s “inappropriate” and “disrespectful.”


37 posted on 10/04/2013 12:05:25 PM PDT by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: VRWCarea51
Well if Bohner has any balls he will immediately ask them all to a meeting and threaten to toss their sorry asses off any committees, then do it.

Yup. That's the best way to stop this thing (though, with some of these squishy RINOs, it may not be enough). I'm skeptical, though - I'm worried that Boehner wants it both ways - he wants a "clean" CR to pass, but wants to establish some credibility with conservatives, so he needs to oppose it. The dims' discharge maneuver gives him a way to do both, which is why I'm a bit pessimistic. I don't know if there are enough RINOs who are willing to sign the petition at this point, but if there are, I doubt Boehner is willing/able to exert enough pressure to stop them.

39 posted on 10/04/2013 12:15:01 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: oblomov

Who cares?

Tell the Dems to buzz off and keep the gov’t shutdown.

There is no alternative at this point. Cripple this beast.


40 posted on 10/04/2013 12:23:09 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Paine in the Neck
>> Peter King is rapidly becoming the House’s John McCain. <<

Peter King has been the House's John McCain since at least 1998. Conservatives have just been in denial about it.

41 posted on 10/04/2013 12:34:41 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Liz Cheney's family supports gay marriage. Do you?)
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To: redreno

At last count, as many as = we’re just making it up.


42 posted on 10/04/2013 1:35:37 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Da Coyote
Dems say that if they get enough signatures, they’d be able to force a vote by October 14th.

Their constituencies cannot hold out that long.

43 posted on 10/04/2013 1:37:24 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: oblomov

House Republicans are NOT “keeping the government closed”. Democrats are!!!
Republicans have voted 4 (FOUR!!!!) times on individual bills that fund all necessary parts of government.

Dems are just throwing a tantrum because they can’t have things their way (one big lump bill without Obamacare), if they can’ play like they want they’ll just not approve anything.

The dems know if the Repubs are able to do this this time, that the House has just realized they have the useful power of the purse and could have been using this all alongm but somewhere along the way had given it up. The House might actually start to use it to reign in Big Government. It scares the democrats to death to think the Republicans might have figured this out.

It is the Dems fault, not the Republicans!

Republicans need to be super aggressive in getting that message out. Dems are holding up funding! Say it over and over until someone finally listens!


44 posted on 10/04/2013 1:41:32 PM PDT by boxlunch (Psalm 2)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
the Constitution says that the President may convene one or both Houses of Congress.

DANG IT CofC !

If you hadn't said that, no one on O'bama's team would know!

;-)

45 posted on 10/04/2013 2:30:40 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: redreno

I see this story as very good news. There’s no way the Dims would even be thinking about this if they were decisively winning the PR war, like all the media say they are. I think they are the ones feeling the pressure, being willing to end the shutdown with such a maneuver. Highly unlikely it happens though — for the very same reason. If the moderate RINO types think they are at least breaking even holding the line, they have no reason to risk political suicide by signing a Pelosi-led petition.


46 posted on 10/04/2013 2:46:59 PM PDT by lquist1
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To: LibLieSlayer

“No, too many of the 18 that were supposed to cave have promised Conservative talk show hosts that it was all lies. dims always lie... it is all that they have.”

More data on how big of a lie this theme of the crazed liberal mediots is:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3075008/posts

Analysis: Shutdown strategy has wide U.S. Republican support
Reuters ^ | October 4, 2013 | Caren Bohan and Fred Barbash

Posted on Friday, October 04, 2013 2:27:10 PM by LucianOfSamasota


47 posted on 10/04/2013 3:44:42 PM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Boycott Reno & Las Vegas until those in control there, remove Reid from the senate!)
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To: apillar
I hope the Republican house leadership is making sure that it is known that any Republican House member who’s name appears on said petition will become persona-non-grata in the party and lose his or her committee assignments.

Yeah but they'll be lionized on the Sunday talk shows, be hailed as heroes, and get a big smooch from Nancy Pelosi and...oh scratch that last one.

48 posted on 10/04/2013 3:48:16 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: Grampa Dave

The enemedia is the enemy!


49 posted on 10/04/2013 4:28:16 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: redreno

Every republican who agrees with this should be kicked out of the party. Tell the to go ahead and officially join the democrats.


50 posted on 10/04/2013 5:00:34 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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