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Military Priests Face Arrest for Celebrating Mass in Defiance of Shutdown
Catholic Vote ^ | 10/4/2013 | Steve Skojec

Posted on 10/04/2013 12:17:34 PM PDT by Brown Deer

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Our government is out of control.

First, it was the World War II veterans who had to break down barriers to see the open air, un-attended memorial erected in their honor.  A memorial which is on public land but is supported – including the National Park Service fee – with private funds. This week there was more security surrounding this memorial — just to keep elderly veterans out — than there was at our embassy in Benghazi the night it was attacked.

And for what? To inflict as much pain as possible through this government shutdown. It’s called Washington Monument Syndrome, and it’s pure political theater.

But now there’s a story just coming to light that takes things even further. According the Archdiocese for Military Services, GS and contract priests (who are paid by the federal government as independent contractors in places where there aren’t enough active-duty priests to meet the needs of Catholics in military service) are being forbidden from celebrating Mass, even on a volunteer basis.

If they violate this restriction, they face possible arrest. FOR CELEBRATING MASS. 

From John Schlageter, General Counsel for the Archdiocese:

There is a chronic shortage of active duty Catholic chaplains. While roughly 25% of the military is Catholic, Catholic priests make up only about 8% of the chaplain corps. That means approximately 275,000 men and women in uniform, and their families, are served by only 234 active-duty priests.  The temporary solution to this shortage is to provide GS and contract priests.   These men are employed by the government to ensure that a priest is available when an active duty Catholic Chaplain is not present.  With the government shutdown, GS and contract priests who minister to Catholics on military bases worldwide are not permitted to work – not even to volunteer.  During the shutdown, it is illegal for them to minister on base and they risk being arrested if they attempt to do so.

As an example, if a Catholic family has a Baptism scheduled at the base chapel at Langley AFB this weekend, unless they can locate a priest who is not a GS or contract priest, they should consider it cancelled.   Likewise, a Marine who attends Sunday Mass at the Quantico Chapel will have to go elsewhere this weekend.  If you are a Catholic stationed in Japan or Korea and are served by a Contract or GS priest, unless you speak Korean or Japanese and can find a church nearby, then you have no choice but to go without Mass this weekend.  Until the Federal Government resumes normal operations, or an exemption is granted to contract or GS priests, Catholic services are indefinitely suspended at those worldwide installations served by contract and GS priests.

At a time when the military is considering alternative sources of funding for sporting events at the service academies, no one seems to be looking for funding to ensure the Free Exercise rights of Catholics in uniform. Why not?

This shutdown impacts Catholics in the military worldwide. In the DC-metro area, it specifically impacts bases like Quantico. On the Facebook page for the Archdiocese, Catholic military members commenting on the story are not happy. Comments include:

“This is outrageous!!! Especially threatening them with arrest to voluntarily do their job.”

“Unbelievable! I was worried about this because our priest is contracted as well. It is bad enough to be furloughed but to not have a Mass to attend, is a real downer,”

“Just one example, a couple is getting married tomorrow at a large Air Force Base that is staffed by a Contract priest. That priest did all of their marriage prep, and has gotten to know the couple very well over the past few months. But with the shutdown, he cannot perform their wedding. Instead of the priest that the couple has come to know and love, an active duty priest has to be sent in to perform the wedding of two people who are strangers to him and he to them.”

” Is anyone up there going to start a protest?! A rosary ?!?!? A nice Catholic riot maybe?! PLEEEAAASSEEE?! SOMEONE?! ANYONE?! Any real Carholics out there?!!!!???!”

This is outrageous. It is a violation of the First Amendment. It is a prohibition of the free exercise of religion to order priests under penalty of arrest that they cannot volunteer their time to offer Mass to the faithful on base. This cannot be allowed to stand.

As of this writing, I have not yet received a response to my inquiry to the Archdiocese for Military Services as to what specific action steps we can take to get this problem addressed. Until we have a path to resolution, please share this story as widely as possible. Make people aware that Catholics serving our country are being forcibly denied access to the sacraments. These are the lengths the administration and the Democrats in Congress are willing to go to in order to continue inflicting as much pain as possible on the American people during the shutdown.

UPDATE – 10/4/2013 @ 12:34PM: I received a response from the Military Archdiocese. Mr. Schlageter writes with a correction and additional information from the original release:

There will be Mass at Quantico because of the terms of service of the contract for the priest at Quantico.  Nonetheless, 3 Masses have been cancelled at local Fort Belvoir.  I have been told but cannot confirm that Mass has been cancelled at the Navy yard.  In one situation a couple that is to be married at an Air Force Base this Saturday and did all of their preparation with a GS priest will now be married by an active duty priest who is being taken in from somewhere else.  This means that the priest that the couple got to know over the past few months will not be able to witness their marriage.  One priest in Virginia Beach will be celebrating Mass in a local park off base.

We are also learning that some chapel musicians will not be able to play at Sunday Mass during the furlough.

I think that the best thing people can do is to get the message out.  I would suggest that they contact their local members of Congress, but in those cases where parishes are located next to a military base that will not have Sunday Mass, that people be kind and welcoming to their military brothers and sisters and their families.

Please do contact your local member of Congress and welcome our service members into your parishes. And continue to spread the message about these restrictions.

UPDATE – 10/4/2013 @ 2:32PM: 

I just got word that while the Navy Yard is staffed with an active-duty priest who will not be impacted by the shutdown, the GS priest at the nearby Joint Base Anacostia-Bolling is furloughed. Since Anacostia-Bolling has the larger chapel, the active duty priest from Navy Yard will be celebrating Sunday Mass at Anacostia-Bolling instead of Navy Yard. The Catholic Community at the Navy Yard has been invited to attend Sunday Mass at Anacostia Bolling.


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: barrycades; catholic; govtshutdown; obamapunishes; operationwhipcracker; priest; shutdown
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1 posted on 10/04/2013 12:17:34 PM PDT by Brown Deer
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To: Brown Deer

This is outrageous. Hussein is power-drunk.


2 posted on 10/04/2013 12:21:28 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Brown Deer

So you can’t volunteer on your own time?


3 posted on 10/04/2013 12:22:57 PM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: Brown Deer

More insanity


4 posted on 10/04/2013 12:23:43 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Mr. K

So you can’t volunteer on your own time?

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Only if it directly benefits the regime.


5 posted on 10/04/2013 12:25:39 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: GeronL

Note what Hussein is making a point of-celebrations of America (parks), honor to our vets who defended freedom (memorials) and religion (but only Christian).


6 posted on 10/04/2013 12:26:13 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Brown Deer

The Marxist First and Only Commandment: Thou shalt worship Obama.


7 posted on 10/04/2013 12:26:15 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Brown Deer

No one could be convicted. There is that First Amendment thingy in the Constitution that Bammy doesn’t recognize. I hope someone holds Mass and dares these thugs to arrest him.


8 posted on 10/04/2013 12:26:30 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Brown Deer

Can anyone photoshop a pic of Obama morphing into Nixon? Then add the caption ‘if the President does it, it is not against the law’. If this pretender was a white, he would have been booted a long time ago.


9 posted on 10/04/2013 12:26:59 PM PDT by originalbuckeye (Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy)
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To: Brown Deer

Fort Belvoir’s golf course is open but the catholic church is not?


10 posted on 10/04/2013 12:27:12 PM PDT by polstar123
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To: Brown Deer

Why don’t people just boycott Obamacare websites until the shutdown is over. Let everybody (including Obama) have some “skin” in the game.


11 posted on 10/04/2013 12:31:34 PM PDT by goldi
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To: Brown Deer

“...it specifically impacts bases like Quantico”

I wonder if Harry Reid will make all his minions go to Q to protest this this Sunday in front of his fawning media?
Mikulski will block any camera that try to get pictures of R politicians there. A job she’s eminently qualified for.

Mikulski may be sufficient by herself, any photo she’s in pretty much rules out anyone else fitting inrto the frame.

“Oh, look what those mean Republicans did...”


12 posted on 10/04/2013 12:34:33 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: Brown Deer

The entire obozo administration needs to be arrested and then those wealthy NWO folks who put the fraud in the WH needs to be arrested. They are the real criminals behind the destruction of the US. It is obvious, if this collapse isn’t stopped one of their coming steps in this destruction will be to cripple/eliminate the US fuel supply. That will be the first catastrophic domino they fell. As though we aren’t already, following the orchestrated fuel supply destruction, everybody will be on their own.


13 posted on 10/04/2013 12:35:00 PM PDT by drypowder
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To: mrsmel

Well, he certainly is no Catholic.


14 posted on 10/04/2013 12:35:30 PM PDT by Paperdoll
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To: Brown Deer

Federal thugs tried to close Mt. Vernon (privately supported) and blocked the Mt. Vernon parking lots before the foundation that runs Washington’s home pointed out that they owned the parking lots too and received no federal funds.

Someone shut down federal government web sites, as if keeping a site up was more expensive than replacing it with a site that says it’s down. That was purely to inconvenience responsible people.

Federal thugs are pressuring states to close state parks and post signs blaming the “Republican Shut Down of the Federal Government”. We are facing pure evil and complete dishonesty. Any real pain from the shut down seems to be inflicted intentionally by the White House, not directly by the budget cuts.


15 posted on 10/04/2013 12:43:31 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Brown Deer

Wow...

This lunatic government needs to stay shut down forever.


16 posted on 10/04/2013 12:44:46 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Brown Deer
I suppose the good news here is that 0bammie is not forcing any Catholic priests to perform queer marriages in the chapel at West Point, you know... because of "Shutdown".

Oh! Wait! Here come Executive order No. 987. Nevermind.

17 posted on 10/04/2013 12:45:17 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: Brown Deer

Actually, this is hilarious if you think about it.

Look at it this way. A profound atheist who bitterly hates the Catholic church decides to knock down a stone cathedral by bashing it over and over again with his face.

You *know* who is going to win that fight. Even if somebody has to use a garden hose to clean the stones after.

Right now, the administration truly hates Catholics and the Catholic church, and wants to hurt them in any way it can. But it’s tools are fortunately limited, and let’s face it, they are not the sharpest tools in the shed, either.

So what Catholics, and conservatives, need to do is just let it be known what the administration is up to. That it is, in a mean way, trying to hurt Catholics in the military, and threatening Catholic priests who work in the military.

Just the sort of low rent, nasty, petty and immature behavior that should be expected of Democrats.


18 posted on 10/04/2013 12:49:37 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (The best War on Terror News is at rantburg.com)
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To: Mr. K
So you can’t volunteer on your own time?

Apparently not. The article said:

According the Archdiocese for Military Services, GS and contract priests (who are paid by the federal government as independent contractors in places where there aren’t enough active-duty priests to meet the needs of Catholics in military service) are being forbidden from celebrating Mass, even on a volunteer basis.

19 posted on 10/04/2013 12:54:03 PM PDT by old republic
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To: Brown Deer

A regular pontius pilate muslim.


20 posted on 10/04/2013 12:55:59 PM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: Brown Deer

The DIMS and their allies in the MSM think this is still 1995.

In 1995 the economy was fairly decent—The American people had not endured four years of massive job losses, significant reductions in income, and prolonged economic stagnation; so the whiners that were trotted out garnered some sympathy. This is not the case today.

My business income in 2013 is practically non-existent and I’ve had to rely on savings to a large extent. As such, I really don’t give a flying flip about someone not being able to have their wedding on federal land which, by the way, I as a taxpayer happen to own.


21 posted on 10/04/2013 12:58:23 PM PDT by Arm_Bears (Refuse; Resist; Rebel; Revolt!)
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To: Paperdoll
Well, he certainly is no Catholic.

0bama is nothing; nothing at all.

22 posted on 10/04/2013 1:02:35 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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To: Brown Deer

The big guy is acting true to form. He hates Catholics. This is a great opportunity for him to show this intense and deep hatred.


23 posted on 10/04/2013 1:02:37 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: Brown Deer

They keep trying to put chaplains in the position of having to choose between God and their military job.


24 posted on 10/04/2013 1:03:36 PM PDT by marron
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To: chris37
This lunatic government needs to stay shut down forever.

HEAR! HEAR!

25 posted on 10/04/2013 1:04:56 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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To: Salvation

Ping


26 posted on 10/04/2013 1:07:11 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: I want the USA back

He hates all religious people, except the kind that want to kill us all.


27 posted on 10/04/2013 1:08:00 PM PDT by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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To: Brown Deer

The US feral government owns EVERYTHING, including YOU, and if the US feral government is shut down, EVERYTHING shuts down.


28 posted on 10/04/2013 1:08:29 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (When your policy is to rob Peter to pay Paul, you can be certain of the enthusiastic support of Paul)
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To: Brown Deer

How about moslem military chaplains? Ten bucks says that thay have no restrictions at all.


29 posted on 10/04/2013 1:08:44 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Osama Obama Care: A Religion That Will Have You On Your Knees!)
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To: Brown Deer
With the government shutdown, GS and contract priests who minister to Catholics on military bases worldwide are not permitted to work – not even to volunteer. During the shutdown, it is illegal for them to minister on base and they risk being arrested if they attempt to do so.

Arrest? Wow. Wonder if anyone will do their job?
30 posted on 10/04/2013 1:16:43 PM PDT by Girlene (Hey, NSA!)
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To: Brown Deer

I can’t help notice how what currently is going is eerily reminiscent of what took place in the early days of Nazi Germany.


31 posted on 10/04/2013 1:18:41 PM PDT by lbryce (Obama:The Worst Is Yet To come)
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To: I want the USA back
He hates Catholics.
Many on Free Republic hate not necessarily Catholics, but Catholicism too. BUT, if one wants to fight the Obama administration (or the non-Catholic FReepers who diss and diss), they only need partake in the Sacraments mooooooore. Mass is offered daily, and Perpetual Eucharistic Adoration is as well. And Confession is offered sometimes daily, but always weekly. And Mary's beads are never difficult to find; they give them away at most churches. So fight the administration with True Power, the Power that Obama seems to hate, Christ Jesus Himself [through the Sacraments].
32 posted on 10/04/2013 1:22:17 PM PDT by mlizzy (If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic adoration, abortion would be ended. --Mother Teresa)
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To: Brown Deer

At one time in the PAST, wasn’t there some thing or other that PROHIBITED the government from making NO rules or laws that would infringe upon the religious freedom of Americans, no matter what.
I forget the name of that (whatever) but I do really miss it. (sarc to the max)
One thing I worry about. We ALL, the vets , swore an oath to preserve and protect that document. Our oath, freely given, was given as we began a specific period of enlistment.
However, if I remember, there was NO TIME LIMIT SPECIFIED ON THE OBLIGATION OF THAT OATH!!
I worry what will happen when millions of veterans suddenly remember the lack of expiration of the oath.


33 posted on 10/04/2013 1:25:12 PM PDT by CaptainAmiigaf (NY TIMES: We print the news as it fits our views.)
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To: marron

They are all too stupid to live if they don’t use this occasion (the wedding) as an opportunity - to have a pray-in, and have not only their own priest, but every priest in a 100 mile radius, and the bishop(s) as well. They should have media there to document a priest being arrested for performing a sacrement. This is how our enemies have been winning for 50, 60, years - we need to give them some of their own medicine.
Or, as The Thing would say: “It’s clobbering time!”


34 posted on 10/04/2013 1:32:52 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Brown Deer
Render unto Caesar those things that belong to Caesar...

I'd say Mass belongs in the second catagory.

35 posted on 10/04/2013 1:35:24 PM PDT by mojito (Zero, our Nero.)
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To: Brown Deer

The priests should not comply.

Priests said Holy Mass in prison camps for Heaven’s sake at great personal risk.

Where are our bishops?????


36 posted on 10/04/2013 1:46:48 PM PDT by victim soul
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To: victim soul

I’m just repeating this post because it’s so true:

“The priests should not comply.

Priests said Holy Mass in prison camps for Heaven’s sake at great personal risk.

Where are our bishops?????”

I wish I could just reformat it to be ALL CAPS.


37 posted on 10/04/2013 1:50:54 PM PDT by edwinland
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To: Brown Deer

The Knights of Columbus — national and local should be contacted.

God, help us all!


38 posted on 10/04/2013 2:04:20 PM PDT by victim soul
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To: Brown Deer

Will the Muslim chaplains be arrested?


39 posted on 10/04/2013 2:12:44 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Campion

Well said Campion. That about sums up this evil muzzie in chief :-/


40 posted on 10/04/2013 2:13:05 PM PDT by ResisTyr ("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God " ~Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Brown Deer
Unbelievable!

But, at least the republicans won't have to "say" the dems are anti- American, God hating scum, who bully elderly WWII vets,other vets, priests, and military families-They can show them that these things are true.

41 posted on 10/04/2013 2:16:02 PM PDT by Pajamajan (Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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To: mrsmel
"This is outrageous. Hussein is power-drunk."

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This is going very fast.

B. Hussein O. has to get every thing in as quick as possible - he is power-drunk and quite possibly insane, IMHO.

NSA - I'm just a computer jockey so you don't need to close down the neighborhood - just call and we'll straighten it out. You have the number.

An economist (can't remember his name-he was on a radio program) I heard this past week said WW III will be an economic war.

I think this may be B.O.'s aim. He's talking about the debt ceiling quite a bit lately.

People I know are afraid and angry. Not good, when more and more people are afraid and angry at the same time.

When I get afraid or mad about something, I eat lots of ice cream.

"We DO need another HERO!" sung by Tina Turner in Mad Max movie.

42 posted on 10/04/2013 2:22:18 PM PDT by hummingbird (Don't be afraid of the big words.)
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To: Brown Deer

I would like to see them penalize ministers from having Christian religious services in chapels around the world.

I wonder if they’ll be having any homosexual wedding ceremonies at West Point this weekend. Maybe they can get a former president to attend. /sarcasm


43 posted on 10/04/2013 2:23:23 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: Brown Deer

Remember that RATS do not believe in God.


44 posted on 10/04/2013 2:24:54 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: Brown Deer

Catholics in Ireland didn’t follow their orders aka English Penal Code. Many Catholic priests who celebrated the Mass (Stone Masses) were killed for their faith.


45 posted on 10/04/2013 3:56:30 PM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,)
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To: Brown Deer

So, what about non-catholic chaplains? Are they allowed to hold Sunday services?

Seriously, in a situation like this, it should be all hands on deck. Non-catholics should show up for mass in great numbers just to show that they won’t be pushed.

Chaplains are being pressured into shelving their beliefs in the name of political correctness; this is the perfect moment for them to push back even if it means putting your earthly job on the line. Catholics, non-catholics, and Jews too should stand together on this one.


46 posted on 10/04/2013 4:09:40 PM PDT by marron
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To: Brown Deer

Hooray for our brave chaplains!


47 posted on 10/04/2013 4:56:53 PM PDT by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: colorado tanker

It’s a sad day when our troops are more threatened by our own government than by the enemy.

Fortunately, our troop are afraid of neither. Pound sand, Zippy.


48 posted on 10/04/2013 4:58:49 PM PDT by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: Brown Deer

Its just sickening. What more can you say?


49 posted on 10/04/2013 6:09:39 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Brown Deer

Oh PLEASE arrest a priest for celebrating mass on his own time. The images and cartoons would be priceless.


50 posted on 10/04/2013 7:50:59 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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