Skip to comments.White House, Congress agree on something: Back-pay for federal workers
Posted on 10/04/2013 1:44:56 PM PDT by Sleeping Freeper
At last, the White House and Congress have agreed on something.
For the first time since mad-dash negotiations over the budget on Monday, the White House announced Friday that it would support a House spending bill -- this one, to provide back-pay for furloughed federal workers.
"Federal workers keep the nation safe and secure and provide vital services that support the economic security of American families," the White House said in a statement. "The administration appreciates that the Congress is acting promptly to move this bipartisan legislation and looks forward to the bill's swift passage."
The only other House bill that the Senate has approved and President Obama has signed in the last week has been a measure to pay the nation's military. The White House has threatened to veto every other bill, as the House pushes a series of mini-spending measures meant to fund certain agencies amid the partial government shutdown.
So far, the House has voted to fund the National Institutes of Health, the National Guard and Reserve, the National Park Service and the Department of Veterans Affairs.
More votes are scheduled for Friday, and the bill to retroactively pay furloughed workers is on the docket for Saturday.
Though the White House statement in support of that bill could be considered a minor victory for Republicans -- who have been pressuring Democrats to approve their mini-bills -- it did not signal a breakthrough in talks to re-open the government.
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Back pay when they were off and not working? We need to keep that savings. Typical DC shenanigans.
This could end up being a 1 month or longer free vacation....
Federal workers have received back pay in every shutdown. The MSM portrays them as victims when the fact is that they are receiving paid vacations that will not be charged to their leave.
This will be the second funding bill to get through.
It’s like that joke about doing it for a million. Obama’s already said yes, now it’s just about price.
Because they’re special.
I’m beyond having sympathy for the great bulk of federal workers. Their activities only serve to make my life worse. They’re a gigantic direct expense for no value and what work product they do produce strangles every effort of those in the private sector to make a better life for themselves.
Back pay? Oh good! Tie it to defunding and repealing Bowbamacare!
You didn’t work, you don’t get paid.
This is why we MUST STOP government from negotiating with the public labor force. There is no common sense negotiation but they just hand over our money. There is not a single person at the negotiation table with the interest of the very people who pay the bills in mind.
Welcome you government scum bags to what those in the private sector face anytime you scum screw up the economy and there are layoffs due to lack of business.
On what universe does it make sense to steal even more money from us to give to parasites and leeches?
This isn’t news. Anybody that has been through this crap knows full well everybody is getting a check at the end of it.
Me personally, I’m a private citizen. No work, No Pay.
Such High Stakes Negotiating!!!
We already knew this was going to happen and none of us really care.
I agree with every word you posted.
Since you and I can do nothing about this, at least look at the bright side. It isn’t going to win Obama any points, if anything, it’s going to make people more disgusted with Big Government.
If I were an “essential” gov worker, I’d be pissed, having to work for my pay while coworkers were on paid vacation.
This was even debated? It’s a given.
Wasn’t sure there an article a few days ago about fed employees signing up for unemployment due to the shutdown? Wouldn’t that be considered fraud if they get both payments?
..........my son got laid off the other day. They paid him up until the hour they gave him his notice!
I agree with everything you said!
Seems to me like a good time to require that the employees use any accumulated vacation days first so that if/when they return they aren’t off any more for the rest of the year.
Also seems to me like a whole lot of Federal employees owe the government for unpaid taxes. Anyone who does owe should have their back wages sent to the IRS to pay off that bill first. Then if there is any money left over it could go to the employees.
No one - not even Federal employees - deserve something for nothing, particularly when they are using my tax dollars to pay for it.
I'm sure the catch-up check will be handled like any other payroll check and taxes withheld.
As a practical matter, when the furloughs are over, most will also receive overtime pay to catch up with work not being done while on this paid vacation.
This is a brilliant move...too bad some here can’t see it that way. If passed and signed this would show everyone with half a brain that the whole Democrat meme of “no negotiating or piecemeal budget appropriations” is pure BS.
If they can make a deal on Federal pay then they should be able to make a deal on anything.
And they call John Beale a crook!
EPA’s ‘secret agent’ con man pleads guilty — then pleads the Fifth
Published October 01, 2013
A high-ranking federal Environmental Protection Agency official who admitted to cheating the government out of nearly $1 million by pretending to be a secret agent, smugly refused to answer questions from lawmakers Tuesday, invoking the Fifth Amendment even though hes already pleaded guilty.
John Beale, who got himself a cushy four-day workweek for years by telling his bosses he had a one-day-per-week gig at the CIA, refused to answer even the most basic questions from Rep. Darryl Issa, R-Calif., chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee. Although Issa said his committee hauled Beale, 64, in not to ridicule him, but to ensure that the fraud he committed wasnt being duplicated by other government employees, Beale calmly refused.
I will be asserting my Fifth Amendment privilege this morning, Beale, who also lied to superiors about serving in Vietnam, told a visibly frustrated Issa.
Beales trickery, which began more than a decade ago, cost taxpayers an estimated $886,000, much of it in the form of unearned pay over some 13 years. Under his plea agreement, he must pay that money back, as well as an additional $507,000, and serve 30-37 months in prison. His lawyer told the panel that his plea agreement did not require him to cooperate with lawmakers, though Issa said he would seek to make it a condition of acceptance of the plea and sentencing by U.S. District Judge Ellen Segel Huvelle.
Inspector General Arthur Elkins, whose office unraveled Beales long-running deception, called it an egregious and almost unbelievable case. He testified that in addition to bilking the government for salary, Beale also had a longstanding requirement that he fly first-class due to a dubious back injury. One flight, to London, cost taxpayers $14,000, when a coach ticket would have cost just $1,000, according to Elkins.
Elkins said Beale was able to get away with the fraud for so long because of “an absence of even basic internal controls at the EPA.” But Elkins was never able to directly question Beale because inspectors general, who serve as auditors of federal agencies, cannot compel former federal employees to talk. Beale retired just before the probe began.
In subsequent criminal proceedings triggered by the probe, Beale admitted to taking one day a week off from work starting in 2000, and indicated on his EPA electronic calendar he was working at the CIA’s Directorate of Operations. He told an EPA manager that he had been assigned to an interagency, special advisory group and continued to take the extra day off until 2008, at which point he took off for about six months, telling managers and employees he was working on the research project or working for “Langley,” where the CIA is based.
In 2005, an EPA manager approved a research project that Beale had proposed, despite the fact that it had no internal controls or oversight. From 2005 to 2007, Beale took about five trips to Los Angeles for the project and was reimbursed for $57,000. The statement of offense says that he used the project to have the EPA pay for his personal travel, which included visiting family members in California.
Beale came under suspicion when EPA Administrator Gina McCarthy expressed concerns about his expenses. Assistant Inspector General Patrick Sullivan, who led the probe, said he interviewed some 40 people, only one of whom ever suspected Beales life as a secret agent was a fraud. Investigators also compared Beales cellphone records to his travel expenses and determined that when he claimed to be in Pakistan and other locations on CIA business, he was really at his Massachusetts vacation home.
Sullivan contacted the CIA and determined Beale never worked for the agency, he told the committee. Beale finally came clean when investigators told him they wanted him to meet them at CIA headquarters. Rather than appear at the meeting, Beale admitted his deception.
He never showed up because he finally told his defense counsel that he never worked for the CIA, Sullivan said.
They shouldn’t get one cent!
That’s nothing but a paid vacation for being an unnecessary government leach!
I’m sure the catch-up check will be handled like any other payroll check and taxes withheld.”
I’m sure it will. I’m also sure that we will never see any of the $3.5 Billion that government employees owe for back taxes just from 2011 alone.
I received a bill earlier this year for underpayment of my taxes by $10.00 plus interest and penalty which totalled $14.10. Sent them the $10.00. Got back a notice of intent to levy for the remaining $4.10. But then I’m not a government employee.
Yep...and the public will get pretty upset about that. So in the end this might work to our benefit.
If I were an essential gov worker, Id be pissed, having to work for my pay while coworkers were on paid vacation.
Yep....this may set Gov't workers against each other. I see several silver linings in this...
This point of it is to force Obama to postpone Obamacare for a year.
So if that happens in the end it's worth it.
Read the stomach-churning details about how useless bureaucrats in a no-name, 233-person agency used government credit cards to buy such items as (deep breath) a lease on a $53,000 take-home car; furniture for a “home office;” a $560 Bose stereo; two HDTVs at $1,490 that went “missing;” Bluetooth earpieces; leather-bound Kindle e-readers complete with USA Today subscription; a $200 table lamp; coat racks for 2 employees for $400; air purifiers; a $2,300 cabinet with equally expensive TV; 38 LCD projectors at $9,500; $30,000 worth of picture frames for employee “certificates;” $3,930 worth of jewelry, watches and clocks; $6,500 in “promotional” items like towels, coasters and hats to promote an agency no one’s ever heard of; grocery store purchases on weekends; routine shopping at Best Buy, CVS, Barnes and Noble and Crate and Barrel; “pencil pouches” at $30 each; $500 for a web site subscription; $500 apiece for USB thumb drives; $710 apiece for computer monitors; $5,500 for a device to keep computers’ clocks in sync; $219 a month for internet at the IT director’s home in West Virginia; $60 a month for a landline there; $60 a month for Internet at a second home in Virginia; $181 a month for two cell phones including one used by his wife; employee lunches at Cosi’s, K Street Cafe and Bagel and Firehook restaurant; visits to Thirsty’s Sports Bar; and a $3,000 bonus for half the agency’s employees on top of their $113,000 salary. It’s good to be a bureaucrat. Meanwhile every taxpayer currently owes $148,209 in federal debt and counting.
Exactly and it is bipartisan. This will kill the talking heads. We’ve got a bipartisan bill, why won’t Reid and the President get behind it.
Obama has misplayed this and very badly. Now isn’t the time for his faux street fighter image, but statesmanship. That he didn’t go with the latter, but the former tells you that he’s desperate to keep and hold his base.
Obama’s a lame, lame duck.