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Eritrea: the African North Korea which thousands will risk anything to escape
Telegraph ^ | 6:30PM BST 03 Oct 2013 | David Blair

Posted on 10/04/2013 6:28:20 PM PDT by Pan_Yan

There is no civil war in Eritrea: its people flee because their isolated homeland could pass as an African version of North Korea. Like the Kim regime in Pyongyang, President Isaias Afewerki keeps Eritrea on a permanent war-footing.

Most adults are conscripted into the army or forced to perform compulsory labour of some kind. Today, one Eritrean in every 20 serves in a bloated army with 320,000 soldiers.

Mr Isaias justifies this eternal mass mobilisation by claiming that neighbouring Ethiopia is scheming to re-conquer Eritrea. Just as the fictional state of “Oceania” was always at war in George Orwell’s “1984”, so Mr Isaias presents his repression as essential to guarantee the survival of the nation against outside enemies.

That message has some resonance because of Eritrea’s traumatic history. The country broke away from Ethiopia in 1993 after waging a brutal 30-year struggle for independence. The two neighbours have remained bitter rivals ever since, fighting a border war between 1998 and 2000 that claimed perhaps 70,000 lives.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: africa; eritrea; ethiopia; refugees
Know your third world hell holes.


1 posted on 10/04/2013 6:28:20 PM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: Pan_Yan
claiming that neighbouring Ethiopia is scheming to re-conquer Eritrea.

They could only be so lucky.
2 posted on 10/04/2013 6:30:14 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Pan_Yan

A basket case piece of geography.

Obama’s presidency should be known as the ‘the Eritrean Period’


3 posted on 10/04/2013 6:30:54 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Pan_Yan
Djibouti - he he he


4 posted on 10/04/2013 6:32:30 PM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: Hoodat
Djibouti - he he he

Home of the to Combined Joint Task Force Horn of Africa (CJTF-HOA) and France's 13th Demi-Brigade of the Foreign Legion. Large US supply base and drone base.

5 posted on 10/04/2013 6:36:07 PM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: Pan_Yan

WOW! I thought I was up on world geography ... never heard of this place. My bad.


6 posted on 10/04/2013 6:36:46 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: cripplecreek
They could only be so lucky.

The only reason Eritrea is in the news is because about 500 of them piled in a fishing boat and headed for Italy this week. About 150 made it.

7 posted on 10/04/2013 6:37:43 PM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: doc1019
WOW! I thought I was up on world geography ... never heard of this place. My bad.

Eritrea is the Muslim portion of Ethiopia, at least they were until independence. This is the front lines of the war between Islam and Christianity. Ethiopia was basically cut off from the rest of Christianity for most of 1000 years and Eritrea has now cut them off from the sea.

They are worth a mention because they are the biggest state sponsors of Al Shabaab in Somalia; the group responsible for the Kenya mall massacre.

8 posted on 10/04/2013 6:43:21 PM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: Pan_Yan
Djibouti - Also, one very strategic (and valuable) piece of world property. You could call it the Gibraltar of the Red Sea.

I remember back in the early 70's when Ethiopia was in the US sphere and Somalia was in the Soviet sphere. Then one day, they both switched.

9 posted on 10/04/2013 6:43:24 PM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: Hoodat

weird


10 posted on 10/04/2013 6:44:02 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Pan_Yan

Asmara is a pretty name for the capitol of the Republic of Hell Hole


11 posted on 10/04/2013 6:45:49 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: doc1019

How about Somaliland?


12 posted on 10/04/2013 6:46:35 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Pan_Yan

Thank for the information, greatly appreciated.


13 posted on 10/04/2013 6:47:04 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: GeronL

Back in the 50s, 60s and 70s, the NSA had a major site in Asmara, manned mainly by US Army and US Navy signal intelligence specialists.


14 posted on 10/04/2013 6:50:10 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: GeronL
How about Somaliland?

Or its neighbor Puntland?

Want to see a weird "country" look up Western Sahara. Half of it is controlled by Morocco, the other half by an Algerian backed group. There is a big dirt mound that separates them running the length of the country. It hasn't had a government for 50 years.

15 posted on 10/04/2013 6:50:43 PM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: Signalman

I did not know that.


16 posted on 10/04/2013 6:51:35 PM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: GeronL

Yes, it was weird. I remember when all the “intellectuals” I knew supported Eritrea in its breakaway from Ethiopia. One of the earliest examples of the current cheering for Muslims versus Christians.


17 posted on 10/04/2013 6:52:12 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: GeronL

Sorry I didn’t recognize Eritrea, however my ignorance of the geography of this area doesn’t extend to Somalia ... due to recent (and ongoing) headlines.


18 posted on 10/04/2013 6:54:35 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: Pan_Yan

I don’t question what you say but I note their president stated in the article story here has the first name Isaias , I was always under the impression, Eritrea was sort of split religiously speaking.

“The registered, census-based religions are the Eritrean Orthodox Tewahedo Church (a miaphysite Oriental Orthodox denomination), the Roman Catholic Church, Eritrean Lutheran Church, and Sunnite Islam. All other religions are persecuted, including other denominations of Islam, such as Shi’ism, and other denominations of Christianity, such as any of the myriad Protestant denominations.”

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eritrea

The Eritreans I think in spite of religion, are just ancient foes of the Ethiopians, Eritreans enjoyed being an Italian Colony. Eritreans helped Italy invade Ethiopia. Eritrea also whipped Ethiopia and put in new rulers by defeating them in that war in the ‘90s I believe. Let’s not all forget Ethiopia was a client of the Soviet Union.

See pictures of Italian Military Cemeteries on this webpage: http://www.asmera.nl/eritrea2011/eritrea31052011.htm Interesting how they are kept up immaculately. That website has images of Italian architecture too.


19 posted on 10/04/2013 6:59:32 PM PDT by BeadCounter (Really? Syria?)
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To: BeadCounter

In fact, when Eritrea defeated Ethiopia, the Ethiopians had the old Soviet tanks.


20 posted on 10/04/2013 7:00:43 PM PDT by BeadCounter (Really? Syria?)
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To: Pan_Yan
Ethiopia has some really extraordinary desert terrain, these are small pix but still telling. I think the first, a crater is grand canyon size. The 2nd and 3rd looks like another planet.
21 posted on 10/04/2013 7:05:59 PM PDT by BeadCounter (Really? Syria?)
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To: BeadCounter

You may well be right. Even the CIA world fact book doesn’t give a religious breakdown. The President is supposedly Eastern Orthodox. I guess I made a false assumption based on their support for Al Shabaab. Thanks for the correction.


22 posted on 10/04/2013 7:06:33 PM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: doc1019
I didn't say Somalia, I said Somaliland.

Somaliland declared independence and has been governing itself for years while Somalia is still a basketcase.


23 posted on 10/04/2013 7:07:03 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Pan_Yan

crazy!

I claim the dirt mound as the Free Republic of Dirtistan


24 posted on 10/04/2013 7:08:18 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: BeadCounter

Is that yellow stuff sulfur?


25 posted on 10/04/2013 7:09:14 PM PDT by GeronL
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crazy! I claim the dirt mound as the Free Republic of Dirtistan

You can't have it. Western Sahara has been a jobs program for several hundred UN Peacekeepers since 1988. Don't put the Bangladeshis in the blue helmets out of work.

26 posted on 10/04/2013 7:12:30 PM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: Signalman

interesting!

Kind of like spying then? but on radio signals and stuff?


27 posted on 10/04/2013 7:12:44 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Pan_Yan

poor Banglies

I almost sent them back to making sackcloth


28 posted on 10/04/2013 7:14:21 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL

Maybe! I’d really have to research it but sometimes, maybe it was bing wallpaper, there really is some extraordinary land over there. I guess, some people would say that is some of the cradle of civilization, I don’t know. Ethiopia is in the Bible.

Which by the way, Ethiopians and Eritreans speak Asmara as their language, I think they are basically the same people, Ethiopia itself is a very Christian (Orthodox) Nation I believe and then, Eritrea is probably more split religiously.


29 posted on 10/04/2013 7:15:10 PM PDT by BeadCounter (Really? Syria?)
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To: GeronL

Sorry, my bad ... again. As usual, too quick to jump.

Education is a great thing and the constant education I get on FR is a G_d send. Thanks.


30 posted on 10/04/2013 7:16:38 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: BeadCounter
I've always wanted to visit Ethiopia but the world seems to be making that less and less likely.

The Church of Saint George is carved out of a single stone.

31 posted on 10/04/2013 7:19:16 PM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: BeadCounter

I think that is all true, thanks


32 posted on 10/04/2013 7:24:55 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Pan_Yan
Very nice and if I am correct, in history for others here, Ethiopia was "Abyssinia" which is a word a lot of us have probably heard. Thanks for the picture. And if anywhere has the Ark of the Covenant from the Bible or at least claim this, a few places may claim it but Ethiopia has historically guarded the Ark of the Covenant again for those here who don't know that. A topic I am vaguely aware of. Ark of the Covenant and it is under guard and very ritual there in how it is taken care of, who sees it, very rarely if ever, etc.
33 posted on 10/04/2013 7:27:00 PM PDT by BeadCounter (Really? Syria?)
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To: doc1019

I usually jump and post before reading past the headline, makes it more interesting.


34 posted on 10/04/2013 7:29:30 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Pan_Yan

So here, Eritrea may have once been a friend of Israel but now?? Found this blog, looks pro-Muslim but still tells some things.

“On December 23, 2009 – the UN Security Council imposed sanctions (Resolution 1907/2009) against Eritrean government based on allegation of supporting Islamic Resistance in Somalia.”

(link with-held if that is alright)

Also states that Eritrea is 60% Muslim.


35 posted on 10/04/2013 7:39:38 PM PDT by BeadCounter (Really? Syria?)
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” strategic relationship between the new government of Eritrea and Israel when Eritrea’s President Isaias Afewerki travelled to Israel for medical treatment in 1993.[1] Afewerki was transferred to Israel by an American airplane. The US representative in the Eritrean capital Asmara suggested the idea after the Eritrean leader fell ill. These happenings along with American efforts led to the opening of an Israeli Embassy in Asmara on March 15, 1993, prior to the official announcement on April 27, 1993[citation needed]. Official sources[who?] later stated that Israel is creating the biggest naval base outside Israel on the Dahlak Archipelago[citation needed]. This followed an agreement between Eritrea and Israel signed in 1995. Eritrea used Israeli warships and huge logistical support from that naval base during its occupation of the Yemeni Hanish Islands in 1996[citation needed]. The sources[who?] disclosed that Israel has presence on two Eritrean islands: Dahlak and Fatma[citation needed]. Israel also has monitoring centers on the Red Sea to oversee the Saudi Arabia, Yemen and Sudan, in addition to oil movements[citation needed]. Mossad is said[by whom?] to have a very active intelligence gathering station not far from Eritrea’s borders with Sudan[citation needed]. However, Eritrea condemned Israeli military action during the 2008–2009 Israel–Gaza conflict.[2]”

-http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eritrea%E2%80%93Israel_Relations

I am posting this, I remember once, Eritrea was considered friendly to Israel, it appears that has changed yet, unclear all the same.


36 posted on 10/04/2013 7:45:21 PM PDT by BeadCounter (Really? Syria?)
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To: doc1019

A few years ago a friend (Reserve SEAL) asked me about it. he wasn’t satisfied with the intell he was getting from the Navy.

I stopped off at our local library and got him water depth charts, Warehouse descriptions, fork lift types and numbers, and pictures of the boats he would be operating with the Eritrean navy. They had an old WWII Higgins boat that they still operated to visit some of the small islands.

A few hours with the ‘CIA Handbook on Ethiopia’ and the import-export shelf was sufficient. We discussed local diseases, and recommended cooking methods and water purification.

Off he went, and the first day they gave as gifts to their counterparts boxes of “O” rings. They spent most of the day going over their counterpart’s scuba gear replacing the seals that had gone bad (dry rot).

There wasn’t an actual war, but he caught a round in his shoulder. The border was very testy. Eritrea had won their independence by rebellion from Ethiopia, and dictated the terms of peace in Addis Abbaba.

And the women there are exotic and beautiful. Don’t look too long, the locals take it personally.


37 posted on 10/04/2013 8:12:21 PM PDT by donmeaker (The lessons of Weimar are soon to be relearned.)
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To: Pan_Yan

Believe it or not, but Eritrea actually scores worse in terms of press-freedom than North Korea.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Press_Freedom_Index


38 posted on 10/04/2013 9:31:22 PM PDT by JerseyanExile
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Believe it or not, but Eritrea actually scores worse in terms of press-freedom than North Korea.

They both nosed out Turkmenistan by a hair. Quite a collection of "places not to visit" at the bottom of that list.

39 posted on 10/05/2013 8:35:44 AM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: Pan_Yan

But Eritreas president is Christian as is nearly half the population, the other half being Moslems


40 posted on 11/01/2013 9:52:01 PM PDT by Cronos (Obama’s dislike of Assad is not based on Assad’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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But Eritreas president is Christian as is nearly half the population, the other half being Moslems

I got corrected already about that but even though the president may have been raised in a nominally Christian household his loyalty lies elsewhere. He was trained in China and supports Al Qaeda.

185 Christians Arrested During Raid in Eritrea

41 posted on 11/02/2013 8:26:54 AM PDT by Pan_Yan (Who told you that you were naked? Genesis 3:11)
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Thanks for that information. I didn’t know that


42 posted on 11/05/2013 7:48:38 AM PST by Cronos (Obama’s dislike of Assad is not based on Assad’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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