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Victory Over Obamacare: How To Embarrass The Democrats Into Funding The Government
Forbes ^ | October 4, 2013 | Peter Ferrara

Posted on 10/04/2013 11:03:01 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Those of you who are supposedly outraged or indignant over the partial government shutdown, or have friends or neighbors who are outraged or indignant, I can tell you all how YOU can fix it. All you have to do is tell pollsters who call that you think Obama and the Democrats are responsible for the shutdown. As soon as that hits the papers, the shutdown will be over before the end of the day.

That is because it is Obama and the Democrats who shut down the government, because they are so certain that the Republicans will be blamed for it. And that ploy is part of the quixotic quest of Obama and the Democrats to manipulate the public to take back majority control of the House in the President’s second mid-term. Quixotic because that is unprecedented in American politics, and is never going to happen.

House Republicans sent over to the Democrat majority Senate three Continuing Resolutions (CRs) to fund the government. The Senate Democrat majority shot each one down on a unanimous straight party line vote. Every supposed Senate Democrat moderate marched in goose step with the liberal/left party line. Even supposed maverick Joe Manchin of West Virginia, from a state being crucified by the party liberals, voted with the Senate Democrat majority to shut down the government.

Senator Heidi Heitkamp won her race in North Dakota last year by 1% running as a supposed moderate Democrat. The people of her state overwhelmingly oppose Obamacare. But Heitkamp, like Manchin, would rather shut down the government than compromise over Obamacare.....

(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: North Dakota; US: West Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2014election; 2016election; abortion; deathpanels; democrats; election2014; election2016; heidiheitkamp; joemanchin; northdakota; obama; obamacare; polls; westvirginia; zerocare

1 posted on 10/04/2013 11:03:02 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
As soon as that hits the papers, the shutdown will be over before the end of the day.

Only morons still read the, "papers".

2 posted on 10/04/2013 11:05:22 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

You are right, I haven’t read a paper in years. I get the Sunday edition for the coupons, the rest goes into the local recycle bin.


3 posted on 10/04/2013 11:09:43 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: dragnet2

What’s a newspaper?

Honestly speaking, I seriously cannot remember the last time I bought a newspaper lot alone read one.


4 posted on 10/04/2013 11:09:58 PM PDT by Kevin in California
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To: Kevin in California; doc1019; dragnet2

Y’all are dangerous flyover hicks. ;-)


5 posted on 10/04/2013 11:14:25 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Kevin in California

Anyone ya see still getting their news via greasy inky wads of paper thrown on their driveways are mentally deficient.


6 posted on 10/04/2013 11:16:18 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Paladin2

And proud to be call such.


7 posted on 10/04/2013 11:17:06 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Obama and the Democrats have been misreading the polls. A majority of Americans may blame Republicans for the "shutdown", but that majority includes both (a) Democrats who opposed the "shutdown" and (b) tea partiers who support the furloughing of 800,000 bureaucrats.

The Democrats have been slow to recognize that a huge chunk of the American public welcomes the opportunity to "rough it" without "help" from the federal government. The only thing people miss much are the nationalized parklands and historic buildings, and by rendering them as inaccessible as possible in a sadistic attempt to inflict maximum pain on anyone who stands in their way (including WW2 Vets), the Obama Administration is just ticking almost everyone off.

As the "shutdown" continues the federal workers are going to get increasingly nervous about what Obama and Harry Reid have been doing to their chances of ever feeling secure about their jobs/hours/health benefits again.

8 posted on 10/05/2013 12:00:37 AM PDT by ravinson
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You cannot embarrass socialists.


9 posted on 10/05/2013 1:21:04 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bookmark


10 posted on 10/05/2013 1:51:40 AM PDT by 1035rep
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nah. How about this: let’s **not** fund the government.

How about them apples...


11 posted on 10/05/2013 1:52:59 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Senator Heidi Heitkamp won her race in North Dakota last year by 1% running as a supposed moderate Democrat.


There’s no such thing as a moderate Democrat. In the end they vote the party line and don’t challenge Reid or Pelosi.


12 posted on 10/05/2013 2:00:59 AM PDT by RginTN
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Look...folks....Obamacare is a failure!!! The lower level plans with acceptable monthly premiums have no real or meaningful medical, drug & hospital coverage when applied. The higher “Gold Plans” with better coverage are priced out-of-sight for low, middle income folks and young people!!! This Obamacare is a scam ready to hatch. It, however, will fail miserably from the getgo!!! And....of course, because there is no Democrat in the entire country that knows how to run a business, the supporting system, that Obama & his Democrat Party had three years to get up-to-speed, has not worked properly atall week, its first week in operation!!! Defund Obamacare, now!!!

WWW.DONTFUNDOBAMACARE.COM....sign...TODAY!!!


13 posted on 10/05/2013 2:15:14 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX ( My only objective is to defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks 2ndDivisionVet.
All you have to do is tell pollsters who call that you think Obama and the Democrats are responsible for the shutdown... it is Obama and the Democrats who shut down the government, because they are so certain that the Republicans will be blamed for it. And that ploy is part of the quixotic quest of Obama and the Democrats to manipulate the public to take back majority control of the House in the President’s second mid-term. Quixotic because that is unprecedented in American politics, and is never going to happen. House Republicans sent over to the Democrat majority Senate three Continuing Resolutions (CRs) to fund the government. The Senate Democrat majority shot each one down on a unanimous straight party line vote.

14 posted on 10/05/2013 2:40:42 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: dragnet2
Only morons still read the, "papers".

My dad still reads the paper every morning. He's 90 and a WWII vet .... served as a med tech, patching up the wounded from the Pacific theater. My mom reads it, too .... she's 80. Most of their friends read the papers, as well.

15 posted on 10/05/2013 3:00:14 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (You see, truth always resides wherever brave men still have ammunition. I pick truth. (John Ransom))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bingo......however stupid kids have NO idea who the VP is , let alone anything about the govt. being shut down.


16 posted on 10/05/2013 3:38:14 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: RginTN

Exactly....there is NO SUCH THING AS A MODERATE DEMOCRAT!!


17 posted on 10/05/2013 3:40:07 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

According to the article, the House usually sends 12-14 individual CRs to the Senate. Why isn’t the House following regular order?

They should pass Defense, Interior, State, etc. Then drop 0bamacare funding from Treasury and HHS and OPM, and seek to negotiate these alone, or better yet, let them stall in the Senate.


18 posted on 10/05/2013 4:09:47 AM PDT by ReaganGeneration2
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To: ReaganGeneration2

“There’s no such thing as a moderate Democrat. In the end they vote the party line”.......

Seems Hitler had much of the same type success getting his people to march in unison to his directives. The people either did as directed or it was off the gas chambers. I see very little difference with the demodummies.


19 posted on 10/05/2013 5:01:03 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“would rather shut down the government than compromise over Obamacare.....”

This is the issue. Needs to be repeated 100 times. Then ask:

Is Obamacare really worth all this?

They own it!


20 posted on 10/05/2013 5:04:42 AM PDT by Justa
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To: RginTN

“There’s no such thing as a moderate Democrat.”

Sure there is, you’re just not looking in the right place.

You can find them standing right next to a moderate muslim.


21 posted on 10/05/2013 5:25:18 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: dragnet2
Only morons still read the, "papers".
What an idiotic, asinine, pretentious remark.
What's the difference between a newspaper and what you see on CNNHLNMSNBCCBSABSNBC, etc?
22 posted on 10/05/2013 5:45:16 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

From the way the dems are reacting, its already looking like their “internal” polls are telling them this is not going as they planned.


23 posted on 10/05/2013 7:05:41 AM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You cannot embarrass a sociopath.


24 posted on 10/05/2013 7:15:51 AM PDT by Wordkraft (Remember who the Collaborators are.)
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To: X-spurt

What if the next CR approved by the House is presented to a caucus of Senate Republicans, who then approve it.

THEN, the headline would read:

MAJORITY OF LEGISLATORS PASS BILL THAT ENDS SHUTDOWN

THEN, let Harry Reid say that the Democrats in the Senate weren’t part of that majority.


25 posted on 10/05/2013 7:27:40 AM PDT by pfony1
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To: MissMagnolia

Only morons still read the, “papers”.
My dad still reads the paper every morning. He’s 90 and a WWII vet .... served as a med tech, patching up the wounded from the Pacific theater. My mom reads it, too .... she’s 80. Most of their friends read the papers, as well.


I still read the paper, but don’t believe everything that is contained in it.

Primary interests are : Sports, Weather, Tides for Fishing, discount coupons.

The rest of the drivel, I’ve seen more intelligently presented and discussed here...

Always pays to know what the opposition is spewing, and what those who are more easily lead are influenced by.


26 posted on 10/05/2013 7:58:09 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: Justa

“would rather shut down the government than compromise over Obamacare.....”

This is the issue. Needs to be repeated 100 times. Then ask:

Is Obamacare really worth all this?

They own it!


Especially when the House “ final offer” was to fully fund the govt, and carve out the “ unfair” parts of Obamacare that aren’t in the law that was passed.

I’m extremely disappointed in the conservative media commentators who do not stress that point.

One who makes it really clear is Thomas Sowell

He also exposes the myth of the Debt Limit at the end of his article

A worthwhile read, and pass on to others

Source

http://townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/2013/10/04/who-shut-down-the-government-n1716292


27 posted on 10/05/2013 8:02:50 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: oh8eleven; MissMagnolia; patriotspride
Only morons still read the, "papers".

What an idiotic, asinine, pretentious remark. What's the difference between a newspaper and what you see on CNNHLNMSNBCCBSABSNBC

Speaking of idiotic comments.

Did I say there was a difference in the "content" between the lying controlled leftist television media, and day old news paper news?

No I didn't slick.

Lemme explain just for you.

It's not the content Mr. ohio, but the the way they receive it and when...This is 1900s stuff...No?

Why do ya think most all newspapers are on life support and choking?

It was probably obvious to all but you that I was referring to the morons who receive their news via wads of inky, dirty greasy paper, with it being day old news, thrown on their driveways. Are you one of them?

Ya think the newspaper losers are printing their slanted news in real time just outside your door?

You don't think the leftist MSN propaganda news in newspapers are not dated when ya grab your wad of paper?

Most reading their news from dirty wads of paper thrown in the gutters are clearly mentally deficient or just lazy. Most probably can't figure out how to use the Internet and wouldn't know what the hell to do with hundreds of multiple credible sources besides CBS,LA Times etc.

Those few capable of critical thought gave up on TV and newspaper news *years* ago...It's 90 percent bull cheet. In fact, TV is only good for live incidents/events and even that is slanted and manipulated by the leftist talking heads.

Most older folks who still read them are generally just too damn lazy to learn new tricks. The elderly who aren't too lazy find they can actually read the news on the Internet, enlarge the font, and find there are hundreds if not thousands of other news sources besides the corrupt MSN you refer to.

Get with it Mr. ohio..There are reasons why newspapers are dying and are nearly dead.

If ya still work for or invest in 1900s technology, ya best find something else fast.

28 posted on 10/05/2013 9:55:05 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Your ignorance is only surpassed by your stupidity. Go suck an egg.


29 posted on 10/05/2013 10:02:09 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven
Looking closers, I see you might not be from Ohio and are likely a vet who enjoys wearing your military experience on your sleeve...

Being a vet, I'm not impressed.

30 posted on 10/05/2013 10:04:43 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: oh8eleven
Only morons still read the, "papers".

What an idiotic, asinine, pretentious remark. What's the difference between a newspaper and what you see on CNNHLNMSNBCCBSABSNBC

Speaking of idiotic comments.

Did I say there was a difference in the "content" between the lying controlled leftist television media, and day old news paper news?

No I didn't slick.

Lemme explain just for you.

It's not the content Mr. ohio, but the the way they receive it and when...This is 1900s stuff...No?

Why do ya think most all newspapers are on life support and choking?

It was probably obvious to all but you that I was referring to the morons who receive their news via wads of inky, dirty greasy paper, with it being day old news, thrown on their driveways. Are you one of them?

Ya think the newspaper losers are printing their slanted news in real time just outside your door?

You don't think the leftist MSN propaganda news in newspapers are not dated when ya grab your wad of paper?

Most reading their news from dirty wads of paper thrown in the gutters are clearly mentally deficient or just lazy. Most probably can't figure out how to use the Internet and wouldn't know what the hell to do with hundreds of multiple credible sources besides CBS,LA Times etc.

Those few capable of critical thought gave up on TV and newspaper news *years* ago...It's 90 percent bull cheet. In fact, TV is only good for live incidents/events and even that is slanted and manipulated by the leftist talking heads.

Most older folks who still read them are generally just too damn lazy to learn new tricks. The elderly who aren't too lazy find they can actually read the news on the Internet, enlarge the font, and find there are hundreds if not thousands of other news sources besides the corrupt MSN you refer to.

Get with it Mr. ohio..There are reasons why newspapers are dying and are nearly dead.

If ya still work for or invest in 1900s technology, ya best find something else fast.

Go suck an egg.

Very clever response!

31 posted on 10/05/2013 10:06:23 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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