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Russia Blames USA for Middle East Chaos
Townhall.com ^ | October 5, 2013 | Nightwatch

Posted on 10/05/2013 7:37:06 AM PDT by Kaslin

India-Pakistan: Indian military authorities report a week-long series of gun battles has been taking place in the central region of the Line of Control in Kashmir. Some 30 to 40 fighters crossed the Line on 24 September, up to 12 of whom have been killed by Indian soldiers. Five Indian soldiers have been wounded.

The infiltrators holed up in an abandoned village, which appears to be the location of the gun fights.

Although General Officer Commanding of the Army's 15 Corps Lt Gen Gurmit Singh had said it will be premature to say whether the Pakistan Army was involved in infiltration of militants, he said there were definite indications that some special troops were part of it.

"I can only say, analyzing the methodology of this infiltration, it was not a pure infiltration. It was a BAT [Border Action Team]-cum-infiltration. The number of militants who attempted this infiltration was rather large. In fact, Wednesday night 10 to 12 militants tried to sneak into the cordoned off area from across (the Line of Control)."

Pakistani authorities deny that an infiltration occurred.

Comment: A Border Action Team is a mixed unit of Pakistan Army special forces commandos and irregular forces including terrorists or Kashmiri militants. Allmost every time the top political leaders have a cordial meeting, a shooting incident occurs along the Line of Control.

Pakistan: A faction of the Tehrik-e Taliban Pakistan [TTP] said today that no ceasefire has yet been reached and that the initiative for talks should not be taken as a sign of weakness, according to the TTP Mohmand Agency chief, Omar Khalid Khorasani.

Khorasani also accused the government of continuing to torture prisoners and of killing them. He named three of his colleagues whom he claimed were killed recently in Karachi. He said that talks cannot succeed in the prevailing situation.

One group also called for the withdrawal of government forces from the tribal agencies as a condition for talks.

Comment: The statements today are typical of the problems in arranging talks with the Pakistani Taliban. No one group speaks for all the fighting groups who are hostile to the Islamabad government. A comprehensive and binding ceasefire is not feasible because it is not enforceable.

Syria: For the record. Experts from the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) said Syrian documents handed over on Wednesday "looked promising". The team said analysis of technical diagrams would be necessary and "more questions remain to be answered".

Onsite inspections and arms disabling are scheduled to start next week. The exact schedule depends on the outcome of preparatory talks with Syrian experts which began on Wednesday.

Libya- Russia: The Russian Foreign Ministry issued a statement on the evaluation of employees from the Russian embassy in Libya.

"On the evening of 2 October, the Russian embassy in Tripoli was subjected to an armed attack by a group of militants. According to available information, the direct cause of the aggressive actions against our diplomatic mission was the murder of a Libyan officer and the stabbing of his mother by a Russian woman on 1 October. Criminal proceedings have been instituted against the woman who is a Russian national. The Libyan side is to inform us about all the circumstances of this incident and the course of the investigation."

"What occurred provoked the relatives and friends of the murdered Libyan man to decide to 'avenge' his death with an attack on the Russian diplomatic mission. The armed assailants managed to break into the territory of the embassy, whose employees and their family members took refuge in safe rooms."

"The embassy's own security forces, with the support of a Libyan pro-government formation, forced the attackers out of our diplomatic mission. At the same time, Libyan International Cooperation Minister Muhammad Abd-al-Aziz, after visiting the embassy, informed the Russian ambassador that the Libyan side at this stage is not in a position to guarantee the security of the Russian embassy, and he recommended that its employees leave the diplomatic mission. In this situation, it was decided that all members of our foreign missions and members of their families should be evacuated immediately from Libya via Tunisia."

In a telephone conversation with Libyan International Cooperation Minister Muhammad Abd-al-Aziz, Russian Foreign Minister S.V. Lavrov demanded that the Libyan side take all measures to guarantee the appropriate security of all employees of the Russian diplomatic representation and members of their families, in accordance with their international obligations, during their unhindered travel to Tunisia, and also to restore as quickly as possible safe conditions for the Russian embassy in Libya to resume normal activity. M. Abd-al-Aziz gave assurances that the Libyan leadership would do all in its power. Assurances have also been received that the Libyan authorities will take measures to guarantee the preservation of the Russian embassy's removable property and real estate.

This demarche was also raised with the Libyan charge d'affaires in Moscow, who was summoned to the Russian Foreign Ministry.

All employees of the Russian embassy and members of their families successfully crossed the border with Tunisia during the day on 3 October. It is planned that they will return to Moscow on a special Emergencies Ministry flight on 4 October.

A group of Russian diplomats from the senior employees of the Russian embassy in Libya are temporarily remaining until issues related to guaranteeing the safe operation of our diplomatic mission in Tripoli are resolved.

In these conditions, the Russian Foreign Ministry recommends that Russian citizens refrain from trips to Libya.

Comment: Security conditions in Tripoli are so poor that a domestic altercation can escalate into a mob attack that succeeds in breaking into an embassy compound.

The head of the State Duma International Affairs Committee, A. Pushkov, said the attack on the Russian embassy in Libya is a natural consequence of the West's ill-considered actions to change the regime.

"It really surprises us, the Russian side, why the USA condemns the forces in Libya and Mali, the same forces that they are supporting in Syria. Those who are fighting against al-Asad in Syria are representatives of the same circles," he noted.

"The policy of changing regimes and supporting any opposition, as long as it is against a leader whom the West does not like, leads to such consequences - chaos, loss of control, and diplomats are subjected to threats," Pushkov added.

He said that "whatever is said about al-Qadhafi, he did not give extremists the opportunity to act on Libyan territory; he refused Bin-Ladin who asked for refuge in Libya; he cooperated, including with Western special services, in the fight against terrorism."

Comment: Pushkov is a senior deputy in the Duma who said the Navy Yard incident in Washington, D.C., last month disproved the notion of US "exceptionalism". He is a senior Duma member and a scholar. What is significant about his remarks is they typify the Russian judgment that the Syrian and Libyan crises are linked. The Russian leaders are determined to not lose another ally.

Venezuela-Russia: For the record. Venezuela's President Nicolás Maduro said that President Vladimir Putin's efforts to prevent a strike on Syria make the Russian leader deserving of the Nobel Peace Prize.

"If anyone deserves the Nobel Peace Prize at this historic moment in time it is President Vladimir Putin, who helped stop a war that would have destroyed the lives of many who deserve to live in peace, like those of the Syrian people," Maduro said Tuesday on state television.

Putin's candidacy for the prize, which was put forward Tuesday by an obscure Russian public academy, has been supported by several State Duma deputies, RIA Novosti reported.

Maduro said Saturday that the head of Venezuela's parliament, Diosdado Cabello, will personally hand Putin a letter during a state visit to Moscow this week congratulating the president on "the role he plays in building a new world without wars."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: foreignpolicy; lybia; lybiarebels; middleeast

1 posted on 10/05/2013 7:37:06 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Russia is right...


2 posted on 10/05/2013 7:38:44 AM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: babygene

It’s really starting to show that Russia is working toward stability while Obama is working for chaos. Albeit there are few good guys in the middle east, at least Russia isn’t supporting the group we have been at war with since 2001. Obama on the other hand seem to once again side with our enemies.


3 posted on 10/05/2013 7:45:12 AM PDT by Dutch Boy
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Egypt's Gen al Sisi is doing the job Obama/Holder will never do. Gen al-Sisi just nailed Bill/Hill Clintons' Muzzie employee for inciting Mideast terror.

REFERENCE A Muslim Brotherhood activist on US soil---who was an employee of one of three tax-exempt Clinton Foundations---was--astonishingly--working for the Clintons, and simultaneously conducting terror activities. Also raises huge questions about the Clintons' three tax-exempt foundations laundering money for terror activities. Tax-exempt foundations are known havens for money laundering and tax evasion.

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A key Muslim goal is the destruction of Western Civilization.....and Christianity. The tip-off occurred when Egyptian General al-Sisi refused to take vacaying Obaba's call from MV. It affirmed Gen al-Sisi's determination not to let Obaba interfere with his plan to drive the Muslim Brotherhood out of Egyptian politics. Superpowers Russia and China both backed al-Sisi and the Saudis jet-streamed al-Sisi millions to finish the job.

The Egyptian military has vowed to rebuild the 63 churches torched by the marauding Egyptian Muslims. Al Sisi's got the lay of the land---he knows who's got the ear of our Muslim president.

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Stupid Obomb-no doesn't have a clue. Gen al-Sisi's unrelenting defense of Christians has turned the world upside down. Gen al-Sisi is igniting worldwide disapproval of the MB---world leaders are vocally defending Christians. (1) Russian Pres Putin vocally decried Christian slaughter by Muzzies. China also backed al-Sisi. (3) The Saudis jet-streamed millions to al-Sisi to continue the Muslim disemboweling.

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THE SYRIAN/EGYPTIAN CONNECTION Syrian rebels---who are Sunni Muslim jihadists---attacked the Syrian Christian village of Maaloula; one of the oldest Christian monasteries in the East was also being sabotaged. BBC NEWS later reported that Assad ordered the Syrian Army to take back the Christian town from Islamist rebels.

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That twit Obama is on the wrong side again ....ordering the CIA to arm Syrian Muzzie rebels so they can kill more Christians.

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REFERENCE At the Hay Literary festival in Wales, author and PBS historian, Niall Ferguson, spent much of his time dissing Obama's "smart power" speech delivered in Cairo in 2009......describing it as "touchy feely nonsense"...

Ferguson has sent out warnings about Obama's failure to come to terms with what Ferguson sees as the potential rise of the Muslim brotherhood in Egypt and the possible "restoration of the caliphate and the strict application of Sharia"........themes at the heart of this new book "Civilization: The West and the Rest"...............

Ferguson's standpoint is that Western dominance has been a progressive civilizing force.....his new book reinforces these arguments postulating that there were six killer "apps" which propelled the West to a position of predominance.

These were competition, science, property, modern science, consumption and work ethic, each with a dedicated chapter in the book.

Ferguson contrasts how China was the world's most advanced civilization in the 15th century but stagnated and was overtaken by Dutch mercantilism and the rise of capitalism employing the six "skills".

In his books, and on his compelling PBS series "Civilization," Ferguson lists "morality" as a strategic strength of Western Civilization. He points out the successful Chinese business city Wenzou also has 1,400 churches.

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NOTE Not coincidentally, it was China that joined Russia in decrying The Muslim Brotherhood's attack on Egyptian Christian's churches, homes and businesses.

4 posted on 10/05/2013 7:53:39 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Kaslin

With a genuine moron running the show it would seem that Vlad has it right!


5 posted on 10/05/2013 7:53:59 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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Billy Boy was grinning like a simpering fool at the annual meeting of the Clinton Global Initiative Foundation....notwithstanding the bombshell news that Clinton had employed a Muzzie terrorist....and the Clinton Foundations were outed for shady dealings. Read on.

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THE CLINTON FOUNDATIONS / MUSLIM TERRORISM CONNECTION --- The recent story that a Muslim terrorist was working at the Clinton Foundation AND conducting terrorist activities at the same time, explains why the Clintons just remade themselves into the hallowed "Clinton Family Foundation."

The "Holy Family."

The Clintons' 24/7 self-promotion--a familiar do-good liberal schtick: whining about "helping" the needy, and hoping to make a buck on it.

The Clintons' shady proclivities are unveiled in the recent NYT story. Corruption, greed, entitlement, nepotism, cronyism. The Clintons didn't have a pot to *** in in Arkansas---never even had a home to call their own. Now they're multi millionaires.......the connivers have perfected the scam WRT gaming the govt system for themselves.

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There needs to be a thorough going-over of the three Clinton Foundations. We need to know who pays/funds the Clinton's lifestyle/political ambitions---- especially b/c Hillary is running for prez. It is important to know to whom the Clinton's are truly indebted.

NY POST EXCERPT ----The Bill Clinton Foundation has spent more than $50 million on travel expenses — Bill Clinton’s foundation has spent more than $50 million on travel expenses since 2003, an analysis of the nonprofit’s tax forms reveal.....includes $4.2 million in 2011 for the William J. Clinton Foundation (to which Hillary and Chelsea are attached); $730,000 for the Clinton Global Health Initiative; and $7.2 million for the Clinton Health Action Initiative (CHAI).

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How many ways can the conniving Clintons use their name to launder money?

<><> The William J. Clinton Family Foundation......

<><> the Clinton Global Health Initiative......

<><> the Clinton Health Action Initiative (CHAI).

More importantly, what is the connection between Corzine's MF Global, Teneo (which paid Bill Clinton $50,000 per month), The Clintons multiple tax-exempt foundations, and Muslim money-Laundering?

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The more cynical among us might wonder about : and the Clintons' Foundations are money laundering for the Muslim Brotherhood.

<><> Teneo Holdings---Clinton is Bd Chair---hirted out as strategic advisors,"

<><>Huma Abedin had “State Dept special status" while a private contractor for Teneo Holdings,

<><> Obama pal Jon Corzine and his failed investment company (MFG "misplaced" $1.4 Billion)

<><> Corzine hired Teneo and Bill Clinton @ $50,000 PER MONTH.

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LET'S STROLL DOWN MEMORY LANE WITH BILL AND HILL As President, Bill Clinton made policies that raised hundreds of billions (if not trillions) of dollars for his obscenely-rich donor/pals.

His North American Free Trade initiative made it easy for, and even encouraged, corporations to outsource jobs and then import their products back into the U.S...... The repeal of Glass-Steagall on his watch sent Wall Street into the money-making frenzy that led to the Great Recession/Depression of 2008......and subsequent taxpayer bailouts.

In exchange for these obscene gifts of corporate welfare, at the expense of America's middle and working classes, you'd think the Clintons' rich friends would have no trouble coughing up a mere $250 million endowment for the foundation.

Now it seems, the captains of crony capitalism are begging off....they just don't feel they have enough money to help their old friends Bill and Hillary secure their so-called "legacy."

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Sen Charles Grassley (R-Iowa) is probing Hillary aide’s employment status, asking how Huma Abedin got a sweetheart deal as a private six-figure consultant while at the State Department. Abedin and hubby, disgraced sexter/loser ex-Rep. Anthony Weiner, hauled in some $350,000 in outside income on top of Abedin’s $135,000 govt salary.

Abedin held “special government employee” status, and worked a sideline---as a private contractor. One of her clients was Bill CLinton's Teneo Holdings, a consulting firm that calls itself the “next chapter in strategic advisory.”

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HUMAN EVENTS: Last Dec, a former employee of bankrupt MF Global accused former president Clinton----chairman of Teneo's advisory board----of collecting $50,000 per month through his Teneo advisory firm in the months before MFG careened towards its Halloween filing for Chapter 11 bankruptcy, as hundreds of millions of investor funds disappeared.

Teneo was hired by MF Global’s former CEO Jon S. Corzine to improve his image and to enhance his connections with Clinton’s political family, said the employee, who asked that his name be withheld because he feared retribution, according to HE.

The Teneo contract with MF Global lasted at least five months, the souce said. The board cancelled it after Corzine resigned. The source, who is no longer associated with MF Global, said Teneo is a dual-track company with one side devoted to merchant and investment banking and the other side set up to provide image and strategy consulting services.

CAN YOU SAY MONEY LAUNDERING? The trustee for screwed MFG investors later sued JPMorgan bank for return of about $450M that MFG had transferred to the bank.

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HOW MANY MONEY LAUNDERING SCAMS ARE THERE? LET US COUNT THE WAYS------Ponzi King Madoff screwed many but he also laundered money for tax-exempt foundations/groups that handed him millions of dollars.

When he went to jail, investigators found Madoff had stashed billions offshore---into a labyrinth of financial entities. Some $8.9 billion was funneled to Madoff through a dozen so-called feeder funds based in Europe, the Caribbean and Central America......a labyrinth of hedge funds, management companies and service providers that, to unsuspecting outsiders, seemed to compose a formidable system of checks and balances.

But the purpose of this complex architecture was just the opposite: the feeder funds provided different modes for directing money to Madoff in order to avoid scrutiny.

6 posted on 10/05/2013 7:55:39 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Kaslin
Russia Blames USA for Middle East Chaos

And Russia is correct.

7 posted on 10/05/2013 8:31:42 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Navy Patriot

It sure is


8 posted on 10/05/2013 8:33:48 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: IbJensen
It would seem?

Putin has it exactly right

9 posted on 10/05/2013 8:36:08 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

Russia is right on this one but don’t let the unamerican neo cons hear you admit that.


10 posted on 10/05/2013 8:47:55 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: freedomfiter2

I’d like to see you explain how failure to show knee-jerk support of Russia is “unamerican.”


11 posted on 10/05/2013 8:55:25 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Kaslin
Pushkov added... "whatever is said about al-Qadhafi, he did not give extremists the opportunity to act on Libyan territory; he refused Bin-Ladin who asked for refuge in Libya; he cooperated, including with Western special services, in the fight against terrorism."

Despite Qaddafi's long older history of terrorist support and murder, this is, in fact, accurate.

Since early in GW Bush's first administration, Qaddafi had been reliable in his cooperation with the US anti terrorist operations, pro active in denying terrorist support and access to Libya, and completely compliant in surrendering all his nuclear materials and facilities to GW Bush.

Removing the stability and cooperation of the Qaddafi government in Libya could only benefit radical violent Islam and the rise of the Grand Caliphate in the Middle East and North Africa. Doing so could only be because of unimaginable stupidity or treason against the American people.

12 posted on 10/05/2013 9:08:14 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Kaslin
Ubama's fault.
13 posted on 10/05/2013 9:20:50 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (When your policy is to rob Peter to pay Paul, you can be certain of the enthusiastic support of Paul)
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To: Kaslin

Sadly, they are not wrong this time.


14 posted on 10/05/2013 9:22:25 AM PDT by EBH ( Freeman: A person not in slavery or serfdom.)
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> It’s really starting to show that Russia is working toward stability while Obama is working for chaos. Albeit there are few good guys in the middle east, at least Russia isn’t supporting the group we have been at war with since 2001. Obama on the other hand seem to once again side with our enemies.

Russia sure doesnt mind they money they make from arming our enemies though. Putin makes money off this turmoil. Of course if Putin is really pissed off at the U.S. he knows where to find our fearful gay leader.


15 posted on 10/05/2013 9:51:43 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Dutch Boy

Russia is only looking to be the victim and manufacture victims, just like with Stalin needing Hitler to invade further to galvanize unmotivated Russians. Same geopolitical game today, and a Obozo is programed to fail and deliver, America is conveniently blamed.


16 posted on 10/05/2013 10:16:26 AM PDT by lavaroise
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To: jsanders2001

Russia is old in the game of using trade with the Soviets to finance soviet infiltration in America. I surmise they are teaching this art to muslims. It is no coincidence that bin laden and muslim brotherhood use the same marxis playbook and language as Obama. People settlin here under various colors muat follow his languange or they are not accepted. There is a reason why NPR cut that show of theirs on Sufi Islam.


17 posted on 10/05/2013 10:20:10 AM PDT by lavaroise
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To: 1rudeboy

Being a neocon is unamerican because they are just subversive wing of the NWO elites. Refusing to recognize truth is stupid but not unamerican.


18 posted on 10/05/2013 10:52:27 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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“The head of the State Duma International Affairs Committee, A. Pushkov, said the attack on the Russian embassy in Libya is a natural consequence of the West’s ill-considered actions to change the regime. ........”It really surprises us, the Russian side, why the USA condemns the forces in Libya and Mali, the same forces that they are supporting in Syria. Those who are fighting against al-Asad in Syria are representatives of the same circles,” he noted..................”The policy of changing regimes and supporting any opposition, as long as it is against a leader whom the West does not like, leads to such consequences - chaos, loss of control, and diplomats are subjected to threats,” Pushkov added.................”He said that “whatever is said about al-Qadhafi, he did not give extremists the opportunity to act on Libyan territory; he refused Bin-Ladin who asked for refuge in Libya; he cooperated, including with Western special services, in the fight against terrorism.”

All true.

On the one issue of the Middle East and Islamic terrorists, Russia is far more correct than U.S. policy wonks or U.S. policy makers. While we CLAIM to be battling Islamic terrorism in the Middle East, 99% of that terrorism is with persons and organizations that are Sunni Muslim’s, like most so-called U.S. Arab and Muslim friends in the region, not Shia Muslim like Iran, and most of the funding and support for those terrorists comes from the countries of our so-called friends, NOT Iran.

Meanwhile U.S. Middle East foreign policy is the captive of those so-called friends of the U.S. where, in addition to our errors on Middle East terrorism and terrorists we have errroneously been led into taking sides in the religious contest for Islamic leadership in the region between the radical fundamentalists Shia theocrats in Iran and the radical fundamentalists Wahabi-Sunni of Saudi Arabia - a contest in which the west has no dog in that race.

Russis has been more honest about Islamic terrorism because it has that terrorism living and working in the nations in the region just south of Russia’s southern border and because of the influence into Russia’s own Muslims from that area.


19 posted on 10/05/2013 10:52:36 AM PDT by Wuli
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"If anyone deserves the Nobel Peace Prize at this historic moment in time it is President Vladimir Putin, who helped stop a war that would have destroyed the lives of many who deserve to live in peace, like those of the Syrian people.

I think the notion that Putin is in any way deserved of recognition as a man of peace is an incredibly naive and ignorant thing to say.

Saying Putin deserves the Nobel Peace Prize at this historic moment is like saying Hitler deserved recognition as a man of peace for not invading neighboring Czechoslovakia after agreeing to the terms as stipulated by the Munich Agreement in negotiations with Great Britain.

Putin's interest has nothing to do with peace and everything to do with the increased status and political power he gained as a result. The preventing of a war was merely happenstance of a power play Putin managed to engineer to his great advantage having elevated himself in a manner in which one day he will cash in his chips on the strength of his new found power and influence in a way that the West will be unable to overcome, diplomatically, politically, militarily.

20 posted on 10/05/2013 11:18:15 AM PDT by lbryce (Obama:The Worst Is Yet To come)
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To: freedomfiter2
Antipathy toward "neocons" is completely fine, and I have no problem with it. But you want to talk about "truth?" Let's talk. For how many decades has Russia been arming our enemies?

And don't come back with some relativistic BS about how Obama is arming our enemies, now. Whatever he's doing does nothing to mitigate what Russia is doing. The upshot is that one shouldn't support either.

21 posted on 10/05/2013 11:45:42 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Russia lies, no surprise there.

The Middle East’s chaos isn’t anything new, but postwar chaos in particular resulted from Soviet incitement and (of course) weapons sales.


22 posted on 10/05/2013 12:33:46 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (...and it's obvious what Russia's FR nicks are.)
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You’re right about Russia not being our friend. Where we differ I believe is that I consider the US government to be a greater threat to the American people than Russia ever was. I won’t single out Obama for giving aid to our enemies. Our ruling elites have been doing that for at least the last hundred years.


23 posted on 10/05/2013 12:40:47 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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"If anyone deserves the Nobel Peace Prize at this historic moment in time it is President Vladimir Putin, who helped stop a war that would have destroyed the lives of many who deserve to live in peace, like those of the Syrian people.

I wholeheartedly disagree that Putin is in any way deserved of being recognized as a man of peace.

Saying Putin deserves the Nobel Peace Prize at this historic moment is like saying Hitler deserved recognition as a mann of peace having has any claim managed to accomplish is any way anged to His intervention may have prevented a war but his actions hardly qualify him as a man of peace. The political considerations he undertook in

24 posted on 10/05/2013 12:40:58 PM PDT by lbryce (Obama:The Worst Is Yet To come)
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To: lbryce

Well that arrogant pos occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave got a Nobelprize, and he hasn’t even accomplished anything of what he promised


25 posted on 10/05/2013 12:56:15 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

I have to say they are right.


26 posted on 10/05/2013 4:36:52 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (L.C. Greenwood - Pittsburgh Steeler - RIP (1946-2013))
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To: Dutch Boy
It’s really starting to show that Russia is working toward stability while Obama is working for chaos. Albeit there are few good guys in the middle east, at least Russia isn’t supporting the group we have been at war with since 2001. Obama on the other hand seem to once again side with our enemies.

I'm seeing my 1983 "what-if" and thought experiment come to fruition. I asked then, "what if the US became the USSR and the USSR became the US? What if we, the US, ever became the Evil Empire?" Well, Russia isn't exactly like the US was, although they are much closer to it than we are now with the flat tax and so forth. All I can say is Pogo was right, "we have met the enemy, he is us!"
27 posted on 10/05/2013 4:38:49 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (L.C. Greenwood - Pittsburgh Steeler - RIP (1946-2013))
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To: Nowhere Man

I agree


28 posted on 10/05/2013 5:42:16 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

Russia is indeed right.


29 posted on 10/20/2013 11:57:39 AM PDT by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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