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Pentagon: Most Furloughed Civilians Ordered Back
ABC News ^ | Oct 5, 2013 | ROBERT BURNS /AP

Posted on 10/05/2013 11:25:04 AM PDT by Innovative

The Pentagon is ordering most of its approximately 400,000 furloughed civilian employees back to work.

The decision by Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel is based on a Pentagon legal interpretation of a law called the Pay Our Military Act.

That measure was passed by Congress and signed by President Barack Obama shortly before the partial government shutdown began Tuesday.

The law ensured that members of the military, who have remained at work throughout the shutdown, would be paid on time. It also left room for the Pentagon to keep on the job those civilians who provide support to the military.

(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: civilians; furloughed; governmentshutdown; obama; ordered; pentagon
That's something.
1 posted on 10/05/2013 11:25:04 AM PDT by Innovative
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To: All; don-o; Admin Moderator

Please note that the breaking news was originally posted by don-o, but was removed from news by the AM, because there was no source available on the internet at the time (it was mentioned on TV and apparently Twitter).

BREAKING: Pentagon ordering most of its furloughed civilian employees back to work.
AP via Twitter | October 5, 2013

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3075313/posts


2 posted on 10/05/2013 11:27:31 AM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Innovative

So then the SecDef can overrule the House of Representatives.


3 posted on 10/05/2013 11:36:11 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Innovative

I actually asked the mod to move it off the sidebar when a thread with source in header was posted.

Not saying it would not have been done anyway - it’s the right thing to do.


4 posted on 10/05/2013 11:38:27 AM PDT by don-o (Hit the FReepathon hard and fast! Nail this one for the Jimmer. Do it now!)
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To: Uncle Chip

The House bill was purposely (I’m assuming) worded very loosely so as to allow this interpretation.


5 posted on 10/05/2013 11:39:24 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Innovative

6 posted on 10/05/2013 11:41:33 AM PDT by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: Future Snake Eater

Defense employees go back to work. IRS, EPA still on vacation.


7 posted on 10/05/2013 11:42:32 AM PDT by jimbo123
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Sad thing is all the drills are cancelled, and a lot of those are more important than the civilians they are bringing back.

They really should have put funding the Reserve Drills in the previous bill passed right before the shutdown. It won’t pass on its own.


8 posted on 10/05/2013 11:50:27 AM PDT by Crimson Elephant
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To: Crimson Elephant

I should say important than SOME of the civilians being brought back...not all.


9 posted on 10/05/2013 11:51:10 AM PDT by Crimson Elephant
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To: Crimson Elephant
I should say important than SOME of the civilians being brought back...not all.

I could certainly use my network engineer back.

10 posted on 10/05/2013 11:52:52 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Innovative

This is a victory. The “all or nothing” Democrat strategy has failed!!


11 posted on 10/05/2013 11:55:34 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Innovative

Some more info over here

http://thehill.com/blogs/defcon-hill/army/326789-pentagon-recalls-civilian-workforce


12 posted on 10/05/2013 12:10:07 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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Fight back!!
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Let's finish this Thon quickly
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Thank you!!

13 posted on 10/05/2013 12:11:07 PM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: GeronL
More cracks in the armor.

Willing to bet that in the coming week the Senate takes up some of the items the House passed last week.

14 posted on 10/05/2013 12:27:38 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: Innovative
Why not? The House just forced us to pay them even those NOT working.

House Approves Backpay for Furloughed Feds
(Federal News Radio ^ | Oct, 5 2013 | Jack Moore)

15 posted on 10/05/2013 12:31:08 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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To: Innovative

If they’re going to pay all federal employees regardless of furlough or not, then why not have all federal employees return to work?


16 posted on 10/05/2013 12:32:53 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Conservatives are not anarchists!)
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To: Innovative

Good for the DoD employees and good for mitigating Obamadoesn’tcare. Every agency reopened and every employee back at work erodes Obama’s position. The more he howls, the more the House needs to pass CRs to reopen departments or programs and keep appealing for him to negotiate.


17 posted on 10/05/2013 12:43:46 PM PDT by Red Dog #1
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To: Innovative

Good for the DoD employees and good for mitigating Obamadoesn’tcare. Every agency reopened and every employee back at work erodes Obama’s position. The more he howls, the more the House needs to pass CRs to reopen departments or programs and keep appealing for him to negotiate.


18 posted on 10/05/2013 12:43:49 PM PDT by Red Dog #1
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To: Innovative

This is BIG. This gives the good guys a lot more leverage.


19 posted on 10/05/2013 12:52:12 PM PDT by yellowhammer
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>> based on a Pentagon legal interpretation [of a measure] passed by Congress and signed by President Barack Obama shortly before the partial government shutdown began Tuesday.

5 days too many. Time and circumstances no doubt shaped interpretation.


20 posted on 10/05/2013 12:56:43 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: sickoflibs

The government can’t incur any unauthorized debts. So there’s no money to pay the military and non-furloughed civilians, but they report to work. Furloughed civilians, on the other hand, aren’t allowed to work. Both groups get back pay regardless once funds are restored even though the government isn’t obligated to pay back pay to furloughed civilians.

They’ve promised pay, but they can’t let civilian employees return to work. If they’re going to pay people regardless, then why have ridiculous laws that say those employees can’t work? They already allow excepted employees and the military to continue to work without pay (with the promise to pay them later). Why the distinction? Why not just have the entire DoD report to work in the interest of national defense, especially when they’re all going to get paid regardless???


21 posted on 10/05/2013 1:01:24 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Conservatives are not anarchists!)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Innovative.


22 posted on 10/05/2013 1:12:28 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: don-o

Just wanted to make sure you get the credit for first posting. :)


23 posted on 10/05/2013 1:42:20 PM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Innovative; don-o; Admin Moderator
I received this news on Wednesday 10/02 in a newsletter from my Congressman (James Lankford).

There is one area where the House, Senate, and President have come to an agreement and passed a bill providing uninterrupted pay for our military and DOD civilians. Our armed forces and civilian support have suffered the most this year during the sequester, and it was essential that they were protected during this government slowdown. But early this morning, I learned that the Department of Defense narrowly interpreted that law to apply only to a small group of civilian defense employees. This ignores the clear language of the House bill that mandates that all military and civilians are protected from the slowdown, including our National Guard and Reserve members serving in active duty status, full-time Guard members, and dual-status technicians. I have sent a letter to Secretary Hagel to ask him to rectify this situation immediately.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3074159/posts

24 posted on 10/05/2013 1:43:08 PM PDT by oxcart (Journalism [sic])
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To: oxcart

Hagel Recalls Most Defense Department Workers

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/06/us/politics/hagel-recalls-most-defense-department-workers.html?_r=0

” Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel made a surprise announcement on Saturday that he would reinstate almost all of the 400,000 civilian employees of the Defense Department who had been sent home when the government shut down last week. ‘

Key statement: “almost all”


25 posted on 10/05/2013 1:49:55 PM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Innovative

“Mr. Hagel said “most DoD civilians” would be exempted from the furloughs and would return to work next week because Pentagon and Justice Department lawyers interpreted a stopgap budget measure signed into law last week by President Obama, which guaranteed pay for service members, to also apply to a larger number of civilian workers.”

They make it sound like they are doing a great thing, when they f**k up. What great guys they are!/s


26 posted on 10/05/2013 2:52:18 PM PDT by oxcart (Journalism [sic])
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