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More veterans removed at Vietnam War Memorial
Hot Air ^ | October 5, 2013 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 10/05/2013 12:32:52 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

When I first saw this story, I assumed that it almost had to be a hoax. After the previous incidents with veterans and the added expenditures involved in closing open spaces to keep veterans from paying their respects to the Honored Dead one would assume that even a novice politician would move to staunch the bleeding. But instead, it seems that the White House is doubling down, as reported at The Weekly Standard.

Via William Jacobson, NBC’s affiliate in Washington, D.C. reports that police ordered tourists and Vietnam war veterans who were visiting the Vietnam Veterans Memorial Wall to leave the memorial at one point on Friday.

After one group of veterans went around the barricade, “the park ranger told them the wall was closed,” NBC’s Mark Seagraves reported. “Later another group of vets showed up and moved the barricades. At that point, the memorial filled with vets and tourists. That’s when police came and moved everyone out.”

As usual, it sounds like our veterans accounted themselves in a professional dignified manner, but were not going to put up with any nonsense.

Segraves described the exchange as pleasant and respectful.

The veterans then moved the barricade and walked down to the wall to pay their respects. But a flood of tourists followed even though the memorial is closed to the general public.

“The consensus among the group of Vietnam veterans was we’re going to go anyway. We’ll go through the barricade,” North Carolina resident Reid Mendenhall said.

U.S. Park Police arrive to the scene, asked everyone to leave and put the barricade back into place.

Conflict over the closure of D.C.’s war memorials has drawn a lot of controversy this week.

Yes… a lot of controversy is putting it mildly. The President can pick all the battles with congressional Republicans that he likes and probably not draw too much political fire from the middle. But if you wanted to conduct a poll of who is least likely to be blamed for anything in this country by the general public, veterans visiting war memorials would have to come in somewhere near the bottom of the list, behind possibly only puppies.

How many more of these stories can the administration sustain before the “no compromise, no negotiations” crowd realizes that they’re going to have to come to the table? Assuming, that is, that the stories actually make it onto the national news.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
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1 posted on 10/05/2013 12:32:52 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Is there a single real American that does not AUTOMATICALLY pledge the flag??

2 posted on 10/05/2013 12:36:09 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think the proverbial crap may have already hit the fan.

3 posted on 10/05/2013 12:38:23 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Voting is the best revenge. Barrycades are the best punishment.” - Barack the Kenyan.


4 posted on 10/05/2013 12:38:40 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The DemocRAT Pahtay! Spending our grandchildren's future, today!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Americans must be punished for being bad and disobeying their government.” - King Barry the Kenyan


5 posted on 10/05/2013 12:40:37 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The DemocRAT Pahtay! Spending our grandchildren's future, today!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

B. Hussein taking orders from his Leftist Regressive Vietnam Protestor handlers, who’re still pissed that Vietnam vets are held in high esteem by America, while their sorry asses are reviled.


6 posted on 10/05/2013 12:40:43 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Nothing is more savage and brutal than justifiably angry Americans. Don’t believe me? Ask the Germa)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
They cant arrest us all.

Lets take back our country.

7 posted on 10/05/2013 12:42:28 PM PDT by Newbomb Turk ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This may not be the best group to f with. I suspect some of them are still pretty P.O.ED with liberals over what happened between 1965 and 19 oh hell, and today.
8 posted on 10/05/2013 12:42:56 PM PDT by Tupelo (Snatching Defeat from the jaws of Victory, an old Republican Tradition.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Amazingly , NOTHING showing on YouTube about this

All of this should be being filmed abundantly .
Get it out there . A prime counter tactic : SHOW WHAT’S HAPPENING

Vietnam War vets all over the world need to see and know about this .
I call upon MANY vets and other parties now in D.C. at this time to take up this mission . Video cams forward . Get it all , get it out there .

Fight back


9 posted on 10/05/2013 12:45:42 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: Tupelo

NBC: Police Remove Vietnam War Veterans at Memorial Wall

Via William Jacobson, NBC’s affiliate in Washington, D.C. reports that police ordered tourists and Vietnam war veterans who were visiting the Vietnam Veterans Memorial Wall to leave the memorial at one point on Friday.

After one group of veterans went around the barricade, “the park ranger told them the wall was closed,” NBC’s Mark Seagraves reported. “Later another group of vets showed up and moved the barricades. At that point, the memorial filled with vets and tourists. That’s when police came and moved everyone out.”

The Vietnam Veterans Memorial Wall is a black granite outdoor wall on which the names of the 58,272 service members who died or were unaccounted for during the Vietnam war are inscribed.

It takes more manpower and costs the government more money to close down an outdoor wall than to let people walk past it and pay their respects.

The Obama administration has been very selective in devoting resources to shutting down memorials.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/nbc-police-remove-vietnam-war-veterans-memorial-wall_759267.html


10 posted on 10/05/2013 12:45:57 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: Diogenesis

Self absorbed globalist.

Or maybe he’s a Moslem....


11 posted on 10/05/2013 12:46:10 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
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12 posted on 10/05/2013 12:46:40 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The DemocRAT Pahtay! Spending our grandchildren's future, today!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Just read that many of the 800,000 bikers who rode to DC to protest the CAIR/muzzie thing will be heading to DC and the VIETNAM MEMORIAL on 10/8.

Now THIS could get very interesting.


13 posted on 10/05/2013 12:47:19 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is not bliss. It is the road to serfdom.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This proves my point that police are OT your friend. When it comes down to it, they will turn on you for their paycheck.

How any real cop could follow these orders just shows you. If ordered, they do what they are told. “We were just following orders”


14 posted on 10/05/2013 12:49:05 PM PDT by packrat35 (Pelosi is only on loan to the world from Satan. Hopefully he will soon want his baby killer back)
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To: Vendome

Obama is a low life slimeball not worth to lick the boots of any American soldier.


15 posted on 10/05/2013 12:49:59 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: Dick Bachert

I’d hate to see the cops handcuffed to trees on the mall. Gosh, I’d really hate to see that.


16 posted on 10/05/2013 12:50:09 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Dick Bachert

They’ll be going up against the same gestapo that the 99% hippie Occupiers took on and won. They need to remember that.


17 posted on 10/05/2013 12:50:22 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The DemocRAT Pahtay! Spending our grandchildren's future, today!)
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To: Diogenesis

You have to remember that obie has no loyalty to our flag.


18 posted on 10/05/2013 12:50:44 PM PDT by OldEagle
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To: Diogenesis

19 posted on 10/05/2013 12:50:44 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: MuttTheHoople

Well.....as a Vietnam vet I can tell you that national esteem for us really began when Ronald Reagan told the nation in 1980 that those who did go served in a noble cause.

In the 1970’s Viet vets were routinely depicted as down & out, psychotic, deranged sniper on rooftop (a favorite cop show theme), maladjusted, etc. Thank the Lord all that’s changed & better late than never.

Anyway, Obama & those of his political culture see vets as not only dislikeable but as a decreasing percentage of the population & therefore not part of the New Order.

I think this across the board slap at all vets with closing the memorials will ultimately backfire. See how many
Democrats running in 2014 will defend what is happening now (unless they are gerrymandered in office for life).


20 posted on 10/05/2013 12:50:45 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: Diogenesis

CITIZENS OF THE REPUBLIC IT IS TIME TO DO A RECALL

Two rebuttals the GOPES (gop Elite Snobs) running things should be using when the demo-coms,(( the DC’s, (they’ill never call the democrats either, they can’t even call them socialist) as the DC’s begin propagandizing dire results for a government shutdown .and racism where they could articluate the individual media alphabet soups so called news reporting contriubuting to the racial strife which they created . But this bunch of GOPES won’t because it doesn’t fit their mode of “bi-partisanship”

Government Shutdowns

The four passenger helicopter already overloaded with eight just barely lifting off its roof top heli-pad. Attached to its steel tube runner type landing gear below the fuselage were about a dozen more desperate people clinging to the gear . As the craft struggles to get airborne. it lurches skyward as one of those clinging to the steel tubes used as landing gear lets go. Falling to a death some 35 feet down to the refugee crowded lamding pad atop the Saigon American Embassy roof..

They were fleeing South Viet Nam through its closed US embassy because American support was withdrawn and denied .Leaving its army running out of ammo and conviction. Sold out by an American congress controled ironically by Democrats that.decided to shed its support for a democratic form of government to what became a US ward for a socialist/communist replacement . It was a harbinger of what that political party will bring to the US 50 years later.

Because of Obamacare most recalling of defunding\ governemnt shutdowns simply goes back to Gingrich’s time when he was Speaker. This earlier defunding/ government shutdown had profound implications where hundreds of thousands died because of it. Like the constitutional constrains on central government. That abandonment of Viet Nam is hardly if ever mentioned or discussed in classrooms despite American humiliation could be demonstrated in that film clip described in this articles lead paragraph.. Because it was created by the Democrat party responding to the socialist/communist radicals that had taken over the “liberal arts eduicational industry” and were slowly taking that party over as well..

Not only did we lose a war because of it. But those same university socialist educators which encouraged this defunding , and dis-honoring the of the 58,000 deaths of our military. Also encouraged their charges to use humiliation such as calling retuning servicemen “baby killers” (only later to kill their own) and spitting in their faces. Their educational products are now on their own, borrowing a military term, R&R . Running and Ruining destroying this country . For this time the same group are now in control of that political party.

Changing it so much that in their 2012 convention booed any reference to “The Creator” ,God.. Demonstrating that any connection to the political party of JFK is gone. They are Democrat in name only and really Demo-Coms.. A term their present political opposition would choke on repeating . For the Republicans are.unable even to use the milder epithet “socialist”. The DCs are now demanding funding for a cherished socialist concept replete with 2000 pages of controls for the health collective. Controls which includes newly created bureaucracies for enforcement some under the direct control of the President .

Controls that:; Put thousands out of a 40 work week and reduced them to part time employees, Shut down physician hospitals, confiscated union health plans. prohibited private contracts with individual doctors, replaced medical specialists with socialist bureaucrats (death panels) Shut down medical insurance companies, or doubled the cost of health plans for starters...Yet not a word of this will be mentioned.by the complicit media apararatzicks running major visual media outlets.

Racism

For there is another example of the damage the aparatzicks do and will continue to do until challanged. Expect a continuing of the racism charge. OK ! Let’s see who started that ? It really began with the President of The United States implying an attacker was a “victim”. of a security guard doing his job when shot and killed by the guard defending himself..There seems to be a number of socialist agendas cited as Obama’s reasoning for doing this. One of which is living in collectives. However on Obama’s cue the propaganda arm swung into action with drastic results..

The guard a big Obama supporter was an “hispanic” who is part black with a.last name which is “jewish”. .Who’s doing surveilance in a posted private mixed race area of modest means experiencing robberies and burgalries by young blacks. Being such it’s legal to question anyone of blue, red, green,white, or black complexion as to their purpose being there. In this security guard situation he discontinued a surveilance after being suggested to do so by the police.The guard could have legally questioned the person under surveilance but instead allowed him to continue on his way uncontested. Only to have that person under surveilance as the guard was returning to his vehicle. knock the guard to the ground start beating his head against the sidewalk and wind up getting killed over a struggle the guards gun

Now consider all those congressional investigations going on. If somebody even suggests impeachment. Get to your black base voters, whom you’ve done nothing for, all worked up.

Pick on some security guard who’s doing his job and make him expendable. Time to employ propaganda devices. Emphasize that white jews last name! . Call that surveilance “stalking”!, The area he’s patrolling “public access” area not gated “owned by rich whitieys”,never mention the guard is part african and dark skinned.. Depict that person he’s watching a 10 year old black kid (show picture) a “victim” and a saint. Not a six foot 160 pound 16 year old, “who was killed in cold blood” and not who was killed fighting over a gun..The episode was given the full hyperbolic treatment which lasted for months and the results are clear..

You will never see a true or false poll conducted in black districts asking if they beleive the Zimmerman attacker a Travon Martin was the following : a “victim”,” in a white neighborhood”,” ill-legally stopped” ,”accosted”, and “shot in cold blood” . My guess is 80 % would respond “true”. Since this barrage of propaganda black youths have been using these devices as their excuse even citing the “victims” first name Innocent whites, hispanics and asiains being murdered because of the inflamatory rhetoric composed of lies and missconceptions being driven by the regime and its supporters in the media begun by the President of the United States.. Obama never disassociated himself from it, nor discouraged it.and the reasoning behind it ?

Well, he can’t. He was using lies and fabrications painting a target on that security guards back when he geared up his black base .Ain’t that neat ? What better way to discourage any investigation into malfeasance and corruption by organizing the base for riots in the streets ? Think it’s too far fetched ? Think it’s not working ? Look again http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3051558/posts

To date the political opposition known as Republican has yet to mention or comment on these examples of how this regime operates. Time to demand that they behave like political opposition or leave the rostrum !
Now is the time not to ask.but demand...

The Republican leadership was given the opportunity as they have in the past,while running the 2012 campaigns for Senate, House, and President an opportunity to spell out what was in Obamacare but didn’t http://www.theusmat.com/ or even mention Democrats had refused any reference to God in the Democratic at their 2012 convention .

Or comment on the the “Gated Community” episode which was used to furthur hyphenate; black from “hispanic,” from “white” Americans, which included Jews. Thus discarding the American Melting Pot history in favor of the socialist agenda. ....The demo-coms ruthelssly created a unconsionable use of the security guard incident to furthur their socialist agenda. That has resulted in martyrs because of its inflamatory assertions..And the political opposition ignores these glaring episodes while claiming to search for “demographics” in other directions ?.While the Republican legislative leadership plays “bi-partisan” rules games with the God deniers, Demo-Coms, who don’t believe in any rules or the constitution but theirs .


21 posted on 10/05/2013 12:51:42 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: Dick Bachert

they were there today....

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/10/escort-and-honor-ride-bikers-rally-today-for-wwii-vets-at-closed-memorial/


22 posted on 10/05/2013 12:53:04 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: elcid1970

My dad served two tours in Vietnam (Marine chopper pilot), and I worked with a TON of ‘Nam vets when I worked offshore in the Summers of ‘82 and ‘83 while I was in college. Vietnam vets have always been my heroes.


23 posted on 10/05/2013 12:53:24 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Nothing is more savage and brutal than justifiably angry Americans. Don’t believe me? Ask the Germa)
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To: Diogenesis
Is there a single real American that does not AUTOMATICALLY pledge the flag??

Yes, the Bamster. Even if Mooshelle is proud of her country for the first time, I don't think the Bamster ever has been.

24 posted on 10/05/2013 12:53:38 PM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Veteran, 70-71)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Obama is a traitor to the United States of America, and the GOP-controlled Congress risks the appearance that they have joined with him as an accessory if they don’t impeach him.

The articles of impeachment can include every breath of oxygen Obama steals.


25 posted on 10/05/2013 12:56:25 PM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
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26 posted on 10/05/2013 12:56:34 PM PDT by baddog 219
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To: MuttTheHoople

My brother servied in Vietnam and said the helicopters were the real lifesavers over there.


27 posted on 10/05/2013 12:56:37 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Even in the worst situations there is always a silver lining. This may be it.

In the partial government 'shutdown', Obama's idiotic orders (you know he's calling the shots on this one) denying access to open-air war memorials even to veterans is a huge blunder. Not only does it clearly demonstrate Obama's contempt for veterans (we knew that already) but his cynical attempt to make the government 'shutdown' as inconvenient for as many Americans as he possibly can because he assumes that will score points as he constantly blames the House Republicans for (gasp!) opposing Obamacare.

Shoving a law down the public's throat with not a scintilla of Republican support, even from the usual RINO's who go along with any expansion of government control over people's lives, then acting all shocked and angry when the same Republicans forcefully (but democratically) fight that law as best they can is disingenuous. This contretemps between the House Republicans and the Obama administration serves as a reminder to Barry that, despite his narcissistic belief, he is not a monarch or a dictator and we still live in a democratic republic where his word is not automatically the final one on much of anything.

28 posted on 10/05/2013 12:57:15 PM PDT by Jim Scott
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29 posted on 10/05/2013 12:58:13 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Mark17

Are you saying Obama is a real American? I must wholeheartedly disagree.


30 posted on 10/05/2013 12:59:00 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: Newbomb Turk
"And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? After all, you knew ahead of time that those bluecaps were out at night for no good purpose. And you could be sure ahead of time that you’d be cracking the skull of a cutthroat. Or what about the Black Maria sitting out there on the street with one lonely chauffeur — what if it had been driven off or its tires spiked. The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!"
- Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn (from "The Gulag Archipelago")
31 posted on 10/05/2013 1:01:01 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Dick Bachert

I hope they stop by the major Press outlets, just to wish the “journalists” and “bureau chiefs” there a happy day.


32 posted on 10/05/2013 1:01:27 PM PDT by eCSMaster (Palin was right (again)!)
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To: LeoWindhorse

Something strange about this.I know people are making videos.
Why they are not being posted or showing up seems odd.


33 posted on 10/05/2013 1:01:28 PM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll eventually get what you deserve)
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To: musicman

Iwo Jima Memorial Closed, Barricades Erected (Update: Vets Break Through)

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/iwo-jima-memorial-closed-barricades-erected_759277.html


34 posted on 10/05/2013 1:04:40 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: BykrBayb
Are you saying Obama is a real American? I must wholeheartedly disagree.

You have a point sir. My hat is off to you.

35 posted on 10/05/2013 1:06:22 PM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Veteran, 70-71)
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To: BerryDingle
Dose this usurper really, really want to piss off
all of us vets. I can't believe he really does.
His stupid thugs would be no match for us.
Amen.
36 posted on 10/05/2013 1:09:22 PM PDT by gakrak (“If you put the Fed Gov in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand.”)
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To: Diogenesis

Barrycades have only been used, so far, in outdoor Park, outdoor Monument, and outdoor Mall settings.

Construction of larger Barrycades to be used on the US Mexican Border had to be canceled when the income from the Fast and Furious uncontrolled gun control “investment” went the way of all other Obamanation investments.

Potential construction of Barrycades to be placed on Obama’s Red Line in Syria is being jointly studied by the US Military, and Nobel Peace Prize Nominee, Vladamir Putin.

Ambassador Dennis Rodman, no relation to Mrs. Bill Clinton, is rumored to be trying to put together a syndicate of his best friends to provide funding for the construction of these Red Line Barrycades.

North Korea spokesmen would not confirm or deny this rumor.


37 posted on 10/05/2013 1:11:05 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Marxist Obama'care' Insurance violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Hey Negro Nero....you can’t CLOSE A WALL!!!! People DIED in the service of our country!!


38 posted on 10/05/2013 1:14:18 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My wife said that “we own that stuff”, so it is maddening that money is being used to prevent citizens from visiting. My reply: It is now owned by the governing class and if we won’t let them have their way, they will play ‘dog in the manger’ writ large with petty inconveniences until we give in.


39 posted on 10/05/2013 1:15:03 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: Doogle

THGOSE pics need to be on EVERY THREAD!!


40 posted on 10/05/2013 1:15:57 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: LeoWindhorse

Wasn’t John F. Kerry in Vietnam?


41 posted on 10/05/2013 1:17:13 PM PDT by 353FMG ( I don't say whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Thanks for the link!!


42 posted on 10/05/2013 1:17:35 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Please LORD let them have figured out how to use social media and video and Ustream to put up live footage- so they can show the world. PLEASE.


43 posted on 10/05/2013 1:19:00 PM PDT by Truth2012
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To: musicman

I keep watching Twitter to see what else happens. Mark Levin is in California right now and won’t be back till Tuesday but if things heat up, he may be back early.


44 posted on 10/05/2013 1:19:43 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: sheikdetailfeather

HEARTWARMING!!! GO VETS!!!!!!!We’ve got your backs!!!!


45 posted on 10/05/2013 1:20:45 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Doogle

I hope they brought wire cutters.


46 posted on 10/05/2013 1:22:03 PM PDT by Rappini (Veritas vos Liberabit)
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To: elcid1970

>>I think this across the board slap at all vets with closing the memorials will ultimately backfire.<<

Every veteran that I know has a Mom and Dad, Uncles and Aunts, Grandparents who will all remember Barry barricading the War Memorials when it’s time to vote in the next election.


47 posted on 10/05/2013 1:22:08 PM PDT by B4Ranch (AGENDA: Grinding America Down ----- <<http://vimeo.com/63749370)
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To: elcid1970

The other day at the office, one of my co-workers asked me how it was that I served multiple tours in Vietnam as a combat infantryman and I didn’t get PTSD. My rather flippant answer was “I didn’t get PTSD in Vietnam, I gave it.”

However, this PTSD question made me wonder what PTSD is and what the symptoms are, so I did a little research on the subject and found that I did indeed possess symptoms of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) concerning a traumatic and very stressful incident that occurred during my last tour in Vietnam. I was a professional soldier when the traumatic incident occurred and had accumulated over six years in Vietnam engaging occasionally in close combat with a vicious and cunningly capable enemy, but the traumatic event was not as a result of close combat with this enemy.

One day when I was totally focused on closing with and destroying the enemy, something caught my eye, I looked around and found a new enemy had unexpectedly appeared behind me; it was the American people. The same Democrat Party who had originally sent me to Vietnam promising that, “We shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and success of liberty,” had now sided with the Communists I was fighting. They were parading in the streets of the United States under a Viet Cong flag, were quoting from Mao’s Red Book, and were spitting on and flinging insults at returning Vietnam Veterans. Then, a Democrat led Congress cut off funding for the Vietnam War, American combat troops were withdrawn and we abandoned a valiant ally to their fate.

I was ordered out of the country in 1972, and when I arrived at Travis Air Force Base, California, purposely in the dark of the night, I was advised to change out of my uniform and put on civilian clothing to avoid being attacked by the American people when I entered San Francisco. I was not at all surprised when a few decades later these same people elected a Marxist-Communist as President of what was once my country.

Yes, the deep, burning hatred I feel for the Democrat Party to this day could be diagnosed as a symptom of PTSD, and I wonder how many other Vietnam Veterans feel the same way.


48 posted on 10/05/2013 1:22:23 PM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats h ave sided with our enemy.)
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To: Rappini

I can assure you.....


49 posted on 10/05/2013 1:23:36 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: MagUSNRET

Flashpoint.


50 posted on 10/05/2013 1:23:53 PM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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