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Amazon Plans Wild New Office Building in Downtown Seattle
Slate.com ^ | 22MAY2013 | Willy Oremus

Posted on 10/05/2013 9:11:08 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine

At a Seattle city meeting Tuesday night, Amazon presented plans for a futuristic, greenhouse-like sphere of a building in the middle of its new Seattle campus. According to the proposal, the five-story, tri-domed structure will be large enough to accommodate mature trees, allowing employees to “work and socialize in a more natural, park-like setting.” From the plans:

In addition to a variety of workplace environments, the facility will incorporate dining, meeting and lounge spaces, as well as a variety of botanical zones modeled on montane ecologies found around the globe.

(Excerpt) Read more at slate.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: amazoncom; building; dome; seattle

1 posted on 10/05/2013 9:11:08 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Nice target for the yearly Anarchist Festival
2 posted on 10/05/2013 9:13:48 PM PDT by DAC21
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To: Jack Hydrazine

3 posted on 10/05/2013 9:14:31 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: DAC21

Don’t remind me!


4 posted on 10/05/2013 9:14:56 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Amazon thinks the good times will never end. But they will. And it sounds like Amazon is not going to be prepared for it.


5 posted on 10/05/2013 9:16:06 PM PDT by JoeDetweiler
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To: Jack Hydrazine

It’s good to have money, it’s difficult to spend it well.


6 posted on 10/05/2013 9:17:51 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Other links about it.

http://www.geekwire.com/2013/images-amazon-build-massive-biosphere-seattle-capable-housing-mature-trees/

http://seattletimes.com/html/businesstechnology/2018390135_amazon09.html

http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/22/amazon-greenhouse-seattle/

Forum discussing it.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1495426&page=2

32 page proposal to the City of Seattle about the project
http://www.seattle.gov/dpd/AppDocs/GroupMeetings/DRProposal3015022AgendaID4369.pdf
(It’s about a 12MB file.)


7 posted on 10/05/2013 9:18:39 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Slideshow> New Renderings of Rufus, Amazon’s Seattle Campus
http://blog.archpaper.com/wordpress/archives/46627

Another news article about it.
http://www.slashgear.com/amazon-reveals-striking-biosphere-bubble-building-plans-for-seattle-22283111/


8 posted on 10/05/2013 9:22:01 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: JoeDetweiler

But the government gravy train has been going so long. What could stop it???


9 posted on 10/05/2013 9:23:11 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: JoeDetweiler
Amazon thinks the good times will never end. But they will. And it sounds like Amazon is not going to be prepared for it.

Big fancy new headquarters are how fast growing corporations usually mark their peak.

10 posted on 10/05/2013 9:25:13 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

What’s happened to this idea since May 22, 2013 when the article was posted on Slate?


11 posted on 10/05/2013 9:50:02 PM PDT by upchuck (nobamacare must be stopped before it can live down to our expectations.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Absurd.


12 posted on 10/05/2013 9:50:26 PM PDT by deadrock (I am someone else.)
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To: JoeDetweiler

My prediction is they will end right as they start breaking ground on this super structure and get into the food delivery business.


13 posted on 10/05/2013 10:02:29 PM PDT by willyd (I for one welcome our NSA overlords)
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To: upchuck

I looked up any further news about the project but I could not find anything. It’s possible the city is still reviewing it.


14 posted on 10/05/2013 10:03:36 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: JoeDetweiler

Ahhhhhhhhhh, but is Amazon prepared for a 7.4 Seattle EARTHQUAKE ?

BTW, would promising to donate all that future broken glass to Florida to be ground up as beach sand win Amazon another Green award?


15 posted on 10/05/2013 10:47:33 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Marxist Obama'care' Insurance violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Moonman62

Yep. When you get to that point, the big shareholders are usually already looking for the next killing.

Parabolic trajectory. Even though Amazon is a good enterprise which could chug on firmly in the black for a hundred years,


16 posted on 10/06/2013 12:19:22 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com/2013/10/04/nicolae-hussein-obama/)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Not quite as ugly as the Seattle Central Library
17 posted on 10/06/2013 12:35:41 AM PDT by earglasses (I was blind, and now I hear...)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I love Amazon and am a high volume shopper with them. And I have placed rescued dogs of higher needs with some of their employees who take them to work!


18 posted on 10/06/2013 12:37:51 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: Jack Hydrazine

This will probably be popular with employees during the wet, dreary days of a Seattle winter.


19 posted on 10/06/2013 12:52:40 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Well, it looks impressive enough, but I find it a bit futuristic: the final drawing contains an automobile!

Although there is only one, and a mini-mini Cooper or some other little box at that, I believe it will be several generations before the traffic would allow such a vehicle that deep into the city.

[I live across the Sound from this burg, and almost never, ever attempt the empty ordeal of going there.]


20 posted on 10/06/2013 1:34:51 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I’d love to be in the room when their mechanical engineers tells them how many tons of air conditioning that’s going to require, and how much that will cost both for installation and operation.

It looks like yet another completely impractical architect’s wet dream from here.


21 posted on 10/06/2013 2:07:52 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Lots of folks making snide comments about "wasting" money. I t seems to me that it's Amazon's money to spend as it wants - do those who think it's a bad idea also think that Amazon should spend/use it for other purposes?

Just a sanity check on those who hate forced redistribution and having others interfere in their own finances.

22 posted on 10/06/2013 4:34:15 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: DAC21

Looks like an easily defended perimeter. I like it.
Why not build architectural marvels in America?


23 posted on 10/06/2013 4:43:32 AM PDT by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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To: Jack Hydrazine
There's something wrong with those architectural drawings of Seattle.

Blue skies!

Everybody knows that Seattle gets clouds and rain 90% of the time.

24 posted on 10/06/2013 4:47:03 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: earglasses

That’s a big hangout for the homeless bums.


25 posted on 10/06/2013 5:29:46 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: SamAdams76

Not to mention being shaded by taller surrounding buildings. The trees will end up being “mall trees” such as ficus that will need constant spraying to keep the scale off and they will drop their leaves a couple times a season.


26 posted on 10/06/2013 5:44:01 AM PDT by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: Jack Hydrazine; upchuck
It’s possible the city is still reviewing it.

That's a possiblity too

My son is building a house in the same county, King County.

He is building a house that has been built a several dozen times before, so it's nothing new to the county.

They still want 6 months or more to review the plans. The county has dozens of identical plans with the "approved' stamps in their archives, some are recent as 2013.

For this Google building it's going to take a lot longer than 6 months for the inevitable money tracks to be hidden.

27 posted on 10/06/2013 5:51:07 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Damn ObamaCare, full speed ahead!)
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To: SamAdams76

Seattle has had its best spring and summer this year since 1975. That might have thrown the architects in their elevational views of the buildings.


28 posted on 10/06/2013 6:12:32 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Nice. When I visit family, I’ll have to see that. Seattle
has really grown in the years I’ve been gone.


29 posted on 10/06/2013 6:28:54 AM PDT by tillacum
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To: earglasses

WOW, where is that located?


30 posted on 10/06/2013 6:30:51 AM PDT by tillacum
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To: trebb

They’ll be hiring construction crews, buy glass, metal, air conditioning units, concrete, furniture, greenry and a lot of things to help move the economy along. It’s a great idea.


31 posted on 10/06/2013 6:34:16 AM PDT by tillacum
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To: Paladin2

It’s good to have money, it’s difficult to spend it well.


Let me know when the last new church and bank is built. Then the good times are over....................


32 posted on 10/06/2013 6:35:47 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple
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To: Graewoulf; Jack Hydrazine

I would not want to be in these domes in an earthquake.

Approaching this as an interesting engineering problem, how would one reduce the danger?

Perhaps decouple the domes and link with non glass collapsible/expendable barrel vault passages? Support the domes on a flexible single central pole that articulates at the support zenith. Support the bottom circular skirt/sill structure on round bearings so the structure can move back and forth on a sill foundation (a concave chase rather than flat surface?) to absorb the shock waves? Perhaps a collapsible skirt with internal shock absorber damping? Expensive!

And will the engineer who designs this be willing to move his office to the dome and risk having to catch all the falling glass? The Acid test...


33 posted on 10/06/2013 8:24:15 AM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: FreedomPoster

Interesing...

Does it Rain in Seattle (sarc?) Another big issue that I see is the glazing on the glass “roof” panels. How long before they start to leak. This can be a problem in Geodesic dome structures. I suppose there may be some innovative way to overlap the glass panels like shingles, shiplap, or fish scales to avoid this.

I suspect that the interior will develop its own little climate. As you indicate, there will be a lot of work on the HVAC systems to prevent problems with condensation and overheating in this upside down terrarium bowl.


34 posted on 10/06/2013 8:27:06 AM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

Seattle is overdue for a major quake. The structural part of the dome can pretty much survive any quake but the rest of it will be damaged.


35 posted on 10/06/2013 8:29:20 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Do you know of any information on how domes do in an earthquake? I have no information on this and am just assuming that this would be a problem, at least, as far as a glass covered dome.


36 posted on 10/06/2013 4:02:04 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

The design of glass in earthquake prone buildings is systematically engineered just like all other components of the structure

I’m pretty sure the skin will be isolated from the ground by dampers between the structural rib and the ground


37 posted on 10/06/2013 4:13:18 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

http://www.monolithic.com/topics/benefits-survivability


38 posted on 10/06/2013 6:11:01 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

Seattle is built on a thick layer of Ice-Age sand and gravel deposits, which shake like jello when earthquake waves move through them.

Additionally, much of Original Seattle burned, and the city fathers in their infinite wisdom chose to wash down some of the steeper hills which burried some of the old buildings around Pioneer Square.

So the combination of Glacial soft sediment and firehose fan deposits makes for a dicey place to build tall modern vertical Greenhouses.

Duh, have the Amazon suits ever bothered to check with the USGS Earthquake experts?


39 posted on 10/07/2013 5:52:33 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Marxist Obama'care' Insurance violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: tillacum

The thing is right in the heart of Seattle’s central business district, downtown at 1000 4th Avenue. It’s interesting to note that now that the thing has been in place for a few years, the local art and architecture critics who loved it at first have now turned on it. The picture I posted really doesn’t convey the impact of the building from street level: it’s brutish, cold, and thanks to its total absence of symmetry, monstrously overwhelming.


40 posted on 10/07/2013 12:00:42 PM PDT by earglasses (I was blind, and now I hear...)
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To: Moonman62

Exactly what I watch for. Look what happened to Joseph Takagi and Nakatomi Plaza.


41 posted on 10/07/2013 2:54:53 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: DAC21

They’d burst Amazon’s bubble.


42 posted on 10/07/2013 2:55:20 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: earglasses

I’m sorry to hear that. Seattle as I remember it, was a kind of sleepy, nice place. Nothing outlandish. This sounds
outlandish. Next time we go home, I’ll have to visit Seattle. I haven’t, the last couple of times we were there.


43 posted on 10/07/2013 6:24:53 PM PDT by tillacum
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To: Balding_Eagle

I just went by the sites today. They are building the first two buildings between 6th and 7th avenues. The last one, between 7th and 8th avenues, is where a Toyota dealership is located. They should be out of there by the first quarter of 2015. The Amazon can come in and demo the it and then start building the third.


44 posted on 10/07/2013 8:43:33 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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