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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 6 October 2013
Various driveby media television networks ^ | 6 October 2013 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 10/06/2013 5:04:12 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!

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To: Alas Babylon!

Agreed!


151 posted on 10/06/2013 10:01:58 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: rodguy911
Jack Lew said something like “by October the whatever we will not be able to borrow any more money”

Why, have they worn out the QE2 printing presses, and the "shutdown" prevents them from buying new ones?

152 posted on 10/06/2013 10:03:13 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (The "government" is nothing but a RAT jobs program)
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To: Whenifhow

Wow, just watched Boner slap the bich Stepinawfulpis. Amazing, the effectiveness of that political Viagra.

“There might be a backroom somewhere, but there’s nobody in it.”

Thanks for the links.


153 posted on 10/06/2013 10:12:42 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (The "government" is nothing but a RAT jobs program)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Morning AB, All.

Just got home half hour ago, singing and meeting and greeting.

Seems many folks saw my article in the newspaper, what with the full color picture and half page story....I am quite pleased with myself, forgive my lack of humility.

As always, thank you AB for doing the thread.

Yeah I’m a bit full of myself. The Cape Gazette newspaper is the big newspaper here in Sussex. Way I figger, hell, an unelected bureaucrat sent me a notice that he will tear down my fence as, per the surveys of his builder buddies’ plans, my fence was on my nback neighbors’ land.

Only I had a survey of my own, back from 2003 when I bought my house.

Did this unelected bureaucrat ask me if I had any documentation? Did he give me a number to call for an appeal?

NO!

In the Name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost, I was tried and found guilty WITHOUT EVEN A DEFENSE!

So I got as much publicity out of this as I could, and, of course, I took action.

Man I got people stopping me in the streets!

Granddaughter’s little girlfriend saw the pic, she says SHE was once in the paper. “Course I didn’t look fabulouso like you do,” and man, you gotta smile at that, huh?

At Finance Council the other night I get a standing ovation. One guy, local Repub party guy, says “We want to know where you had your hair done for the pic.”

Heh. Doggone, I am an activist and look fabulouso doing so, how cool is that?

CAUSE I TOOK A STAND!

CAUSE I GOT UP THE MORNING OF THE PIC AND REMOLDED MY FACE AND FIXED UP THE “DO”.

CAUSE NO UNELECTED BUREAUCRAT WAS GOING TO TEAR DOIWN MY FENCE AND ME AN AMERICAN WITHOUT A TRIAL OF CHANCE TO DEFEND. I mean, at least these people getting beat up by nasty Obama and his minions, DAG AT LEAST OBAMA WAS ELECTED! I’m getting my property destroyed by some weasly unelected bureaucrat....how insulted are they going to make me till I tear them a new one in the rear?

I testified before the county council and did a great job. The fact that I hope a popular column on Delaware politics, well that helped....more on this later....real funny scoops....Exit 82....good scoops I got.

The pubs need me, hand to God.

Cause I’m getting as much attention here in the swamps as the pubs are....just gotta take a stand, comb your hair, man every property owner in Sussex county is on my side....come on guys.....there are causes we ALL SHARE! Even the liberals for God’s sake.

Ok, enough bragging. I got such a scoop on a local politician, hand to God, I got sent a thumb drive in SNAIL MAIL....pics and everything.

I wrote about it at link below.

http://www.delawarepolitics.net/delaware-politics-and-tidbits-read-it-and-weep-the_10613_edition/


154 posted on 10/06/2013 10:16:17 AM PDT by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Here's what they really want: ABC News democrat Debate, Philfydelphia, April 16th, 2008:

GIBSON: All right. You have, however, said you would favor an increase in the capital gains tax. As a matter of fact, you said on CNBC, and I quote, "I certainly would not go above what existed under Bill Clinton," which was 28 percent. It's now 15 percent. That's almost a doubling, if you went to 28 percent.

But actually, Bill Clinton, in 1997, signed legislation that dropped the capital gains tax to 20 percent.

OBAMA: Right.

GIBSON: And George Bush has taken it down to 15 percent.

OBAMA: Right.

GIBSON: And in each instance, when the rate dropped, revenues from the tax increased; the government took in more money. And in the 1980s, when the tax was increased to 28 percent, the revenues went down.

So why raise it at all, especially given the fact that 100 million people in this country own stock and would be affected?

OBAMA: Well, Charlie, what I've said is that I would look at raising the capital gains tax for purposes of fairness.

See, they don't CARE if the economy improves or not, they just want to meddle in it for "fairness" sakes. And THEY, not the rest of us, get to say what is fair or not.

155 posted on 10/06/2013 10:21:29 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Puzzleman

When John Boehner was first chosen speaker of the House many Republicans were very happy because he was considered conservative. I am inclined to believe that over the years he has been worn down by lack of support, from within the Rep party, for positions that the GOP elites were uncomfortable with. Now that Boehner has backup from newer members of both the House and Senate he is in a position to take the hard road and still make gains. Good line you quoted. “Welcome back to the fight. This time, I’m sure our side will win.” /> I hope other elected representatives will follow the example of those who are now stepping forth to plant the flag of freedom and independence right on the White House lawn.


156 posted on 10/06/2013 10:47:43 AM PDT by mountainfolk (God Bless the United States of America and the Republic for which it stands.)
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To: Whenifhow

Thank you. That was wonderful.


157 posted on 10/06/2013 11:07:52 AM PDT by Sal (The scandals are real. The "president" is a phony.)
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To: Ann Archy

“It must have POLLED well to stupid women!!”

Possibly the largest voting block there is...


158 posted on 10/06/2013 11:25:30 AM PDT by Sal (The scandals are real. The "president" is a phony.)
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To: rodguy911

Wow Rand Paul to Savannah whatever.
......we bring in 250 billion in tax revenues every month and our interest payment is 20 billion there is no reason we should ever default.

Wow Rand Paul!! just too good.

If this comment gets out all the regimes arguments go away and quickly!!


That and pointing out that funds were proposed to keep the government running , and the real issue is one of fairness namely:

The same type of exemption for individuals as companies

The same requirement for Congress as the American people.

Finalize by stating both of these were never in the “ settled law”


159 posted on 10/06/2013 11:27:22 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: DanZ

Sen Cruz as ever is the best thing to happen to the U.S. since the Revolutionary war.

&&&&

I just listened to the very painful interview of Chris Wallace and Jack Lew. Lew actually had the chutzpah to say that America’s economy has been what the world has counted on for strength and stability since 1789.

What is that man smoking?????


160 posted on 10/06/2013 11:28:13 AM PDT by maica ( Why deal with the Constitution? It’s written in cursive.)
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To: PaleoBob

Will is on the FNS panel this morning.
He was better on there than I expected. Threw in some ol’ time movement-type stuff sounding a bit like Buckley (not that anyone actually could, mind you).


Saw him on special report, and he/krauthammer were making a good team straightening out Kirsten Powers talking points, and the inane observations offered by the other guy ?


161 posted on 10/06/2013 11:28:52 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: maica

“Clean” meaning “Comprehensive, All-inclusive”

I hate the way our language has been corrupted and usurped by politicians.

**************
The “clean” CR is comprehensive (pork included) All inclusive.
That’s the way I understand it. Mark Levin said sending bills separately was the right way to do it. I don’t know, but I do know the democrats will try every trick/ scam in the book to bankrupt the people.


162 posted on 10/06/2013 11:42:52 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Steven Tyler

Congress has the power of the purse.

*******
for now - Mark Levin says Obama has plans to change it. search FR for Mark Levin threads.


163 posted on 10/06/2013 11:43:54 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Fishtalk

Congrats Fish and you are on the right track. There are issues we all agree on and those are the ones to highlight. If you wanted you could turn this into a election position and win a seat.

I have a program that wins elections just like we did by stopping Light Rail in P-Town.


164 posted on 10/06/2013 11:59:28 AM PDT by bray (Coming Jan 2014: The Republic of Texas 2022)
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To: kabar
Exactly, we should have been employing the same talking point simplicity that the rats do.We have the money the debt service is small its a non issue. Default problem solved.

After watching Lew getting his ass kicked by Wallace we now see just how easy it can be.

Just tell the truth and we win they lose.

165 posted on 10/06/2013 12:03:54 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Couldn’t agree more that would be a great answer.


166 posted on 10/06/2013 12:05:48 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Unrepentant VN Vet

It’s a good idea. But, I’d do it on an anonymous computer not one sending out where you live.


167 posted on 10/06/2013 12:08:08 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: caww

Yeah for sure. Lew never answered the first question and did it all with his phony smiley face until the end when he seemed to run out of smiles as his butt was by then extremely sore.


168 posted on 10/06/2013 12:10:02 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

I think Mexican and Cuban languages are pretty close, LOL! I don’t know if he speaks espanol or not but his father was Cuban so he will pull some Hispancis our way no doubt.


169 posted on 10/06/2013 12:12:25 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: maica

IT was quite an interview. I was in awe.From Lew’s/axelrods perspective you can’t go into an interview with talking points like his(its all the other sides fault we won’t even negotiate take it or leave it) unless every member of the media is on your side. It simply won’t work. Wallace proved that beyond a doubt.


170 posted on 10/06/2013 12:17:56 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: rodguy911
Wallace to Lew!


171 posted on 10/06/2013 12:20:18 PM PDT by caww
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

172 posted on 10/06/2013 12:23:43 PM PDT by caww
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To: mountainfolk

It’s nice to see the house finally realize they are an equal but SEPARATE branch of the federal government.


173 posted on 10/06/2013 12:30:20 PM PDT by John 3_19-21 (Don't like Gramnesty? Support Lee Bright www.brightforsenate.com/)
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To: Whenifhow

Wow thanks so much for this link. I just watched the whole thing and Ted Cruz was awesome!He never missed a beat! Poor Fat candy she’s probably looking for a Dunkin’ donuts right now.


174 posted on 10/06/2013 12:38:50 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Alas Babylon!; Steven Tyler

Obama: “I Won’t Violate The Constitution, Unless You Make Me…” (usurp power from congress)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3075326/posts

In an alarming development, word comes from Mark Levin and others in Congress that the President is prepping to raise the debt ceiling unilaterally. You know — usurping the power of the purse granted solely to Congress. That ladies and gentlemen, is impeachment worthy.


175 posted on 10/06/2013 12:50:37 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Whenifhow
Wow Boehner was great and everything he said was true. It must be tough to be a dem and have to lie about everything you do. With Boehner holding firm its even more important that we get the real truth about how easy it is to pay the interest on the debt to take away the default argument.
176 posted on 10/06/2013 12:55:49 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: caww

Good one,LOL!!


177 posted on 10/06/2013 12:57:48 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Whenifhow

That’s my point. “Clean” sounds like a nice thing to do. If fact, it means Republican capitulation to everything that Obama, etc want.


178 posted on 10/06/2013 1:08:40 PM PDT by maica ( Why deal with the Constitution? It’s written in cursive.)
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To: rodguy911

we have the money and the interest on the debt is miniscule

maybe instead of miniscule a good sellable description would be ‘currently managable’. We don’t want to minimize what we are fighting for.


179 posted on 10/06/2013 1:09:03 PM PDT by sgtyork (The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage. Thucydides)
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180 posted on 10/06/2013 1:51:02 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: sgtyork; All; maica; rodguy911; Nachum; John 3_19-21; caww; kabar; Fishtalk; bray; Alas Babylon!

The first video is the entire interview. But the two shorter videos are segments of the long one.

Rand did a great job explaining the debt .

In the 5 minute video at the end (@3:50 min ) he explains the amount the US takes in as taxes and we would not default. President must pay the interest on the debt because of the legislation called the full faith and credit act.

11:32 Minutes
Rand Paul FULL Meet The Press Interview 10/6/2013 Obamacare & Government Shutdown

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bK1Q8zHJ_0

5:09 Minutes
Rand Paul Meet The Press Interview On Obamacare & Government Shutdown

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UV1dJM6JnyI

1:33 Minutes
Rand Paul Compares Default Warnings to Closing WWII Memorial: ‘This is a Game’
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91sQrcQTvM0


181 posted on 10/06/2013 1:56:47 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Alas Babylon!

So, government is going to run health & medicine. Does that mean that medicine & hospitals are also going to shut down in a future shutdown??


182 posted on 10/06/2013 2:03:20 PM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD (A Realistically Really Real Housewife)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

I say let’s LET BOEHNER know we were proud of him today...
and to HOLD THE LINE STEADY!

http://www.speaker.gov/Contact/


183 posted on 10/06/2013 2:43:47 PM PDT by pollywog ("O Thou who changest not, abide with me.".......)
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To: Whenifhow

Who is the smug smirking commiebabe? Rand is doing a fantastic job of explaining budgeting to her.


184 posted on 10/06/2013 2:48:11 PM PDT by bray (Coming Jan 2014: The Republic of Texas 2022)
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To: pollywog

Thank you so much for the link.

Just saw it in the comments page and sent Mr. Speaker a quick email!


185 posted on 10/06/2013 2:56:30 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: musicman
B T T T ! ! ! ©

186 posted on 10/06/2013 2:56:53 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: bray

That’s Samantha Guthrie - been on MSNBC/ NBC for years now.
She was flustered and could not follow the white house talking points - you know how Mika Brzezinski on Morning Joe (MSNBC) has a direct email line to the white house.


187 posted on 10/06/2013 3:00:38 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: sgtyork; maica; rodguy911; Nachum; John 3_19-21; caww; kabar; Fishtalk; bray; Alas Babylon!

10:14 Minutes
Peter King Clashes w/ GOP Rep. Tom Graves Over Shutdown Strategy: This Never Had a Chance of Working
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=in9OHe1uIBw

5:02 Minutes
GOP Rep. to Rep. Gohmert: We Gave Base ‘False Interpretation’ That ObamaCare Could be Defeated
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0OOM7qh7WQ


188 posted on 10/06/2013 3:11:17 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: bray
"If you think Sequester and no CR was bad, wait 'till you experience default."

For the millionth time: It's not "default".
Default is when you don't pay what's due on your debt. There is more than enough revenue to pay interest on the national debt. Only an incompetent president would allow that to happen.

We are simply reaching our borrowing limit. When your credit card gets maxed out, you only go into default when you stop making payments. Obama has hijacked the debate by changing the name. It's a common Alinsky tactic. Please, please, please don't allow that here.

189 posted on 10/06/2013 3:32:23 PM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: Whenifhow

This debate is perfect for the Conservatives since it exposes the liberal cliches for their empty promises. The longer this goes the worse for them.


190 posted on 10/06/2013 3:32:40 PM PDT by bray (Coming Jan 2014: The Republic of Texas 2022)
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To: norwaypinesavage; bray

Obama has hijacked the debate by changing the name. It’s a common Alinsky tactic. Please, please, please don’t allow that here.
*************
I agree they are changing the terms and definitions all the time.

But did you watch the Fox News Sunday Panel segment?
George Will pointed out that Jack Lew said he was not going to prioritize - which means that they (Obama or Lew) don’t intend to pay the interest on the debt. (correct me if needed)

As Rand Paul mentioned in his interview the President must pay the interest on the debt because of the legislation called the full faith and credit act. And there are enough taxes coming in to pay it.

13:17 Minutes
Jack Lew Gets Grilled by Chris Wallace Over The Shutdown & Obamacare - Fox News Sunday 10-6-13
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEEALSMrXJk


191 posted on 10/06/2013 3:41:45 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Whenifhow

Thanks for the Rand Paul MTP vid. Well worth watching.


192 posted on 10/06/2013 4:08:21 PM PDT by CDB ("Phony" scandals attacked by a phony president who advocates phony perptual crises)
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To: Whenifhow

Thanks for the link. Did you see how desperate Crowley got near the end. She was shaking her hands, and even stomping her feet. I expected her to start a crying tantrum because Cruz wouldn’t agree with her biased premises.


193 posted on 10/06/2013 4:17:29 PM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: bray

Oh I dunno. Maybe someday.

I watched Rand Paul too, and Meredith Viera was it?

He ran rings around her!

Or maybe I’m wishful thinking. I do that sometimes.

Rand pointed out that passing an appropriations bill one by one IS HOW IT’S SUPPOSED TO BE DONE!

So the pubs are letting the Dems create a whole new phrase...”CLEAN CR”, all except Cruz and Rand are pointing this out.

Those crap turds.....the political elite I mean. They like those CLEAN CR things. Some pub somewhere should be out and splaining that this so-called CLEAN CR would be like just estimating a year’s living expenses is $30,000, put the money in the account, and keep using for whatever as it comes up.

NO WAIT! We have to track our money by category you say? We need to decide if 10% of our money should be spent on grocery, maybe we can reduce that huge gas bill by changing suppliers. You know, like budgets go, like we all must do, like our businesses do.

Whatever, it ain’t rocket science.

No....instead we got this asshole thing called a CLEAN CR.

Give me two thousand breaks already.


194 posted on 10/06/2013 4:18:34 PM PDT by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: rodguy911
What is going on is that the everglades Nat. Park,run by an obama psychophant Jonathan Jarvis— director of all Nat.Parks have closed the 650 square miles of Fla. Bay to boaters/fishermen etc.

Jonathan Jarvis, so that is the name of Obama’s aschlekker.....

195 posted on 10/06/2013 5:18:48 PM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
You are so right. I live behind enemy lines in Chicago. The average voting democrat voter here, believes strongly that Obama has no power. It's disheartening witnessing their stupidity.
196 posted on 10/06/2013 5:24:00 PM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: Chgogal

My prayers are with you living in Chicaog...the redeeming feature though is you have GREAT restaurants!!!!!


197 posted on 10/06/2013 5:42:12 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: rodguy911
"After watching Lew getting his ass kicked by Wallace we now see just how easy it can be."

I noticed that Lew was unwilling to threaten default. He certainly must realize that default only comes when the president refuses to use revenues to pay interest, and that there is more than enough revenue to do that. Lew may have a grain of integrity mixed in there somewhere.

Unfortunately, Obama has none. With Obama's willingness to lie unceasingly, it would be much harder to do that kind of ass kicking. Besides that, Obama has a willing press to cover for him. I don't think the fight will be this easy.

198 posted on 10/06/2013 6:00:31 PM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: Fishtalk

Just wanted to let you know. We have a system we can almost guarantee you will win. It all comes down to GOTV the right voters and you win. You would be a great representative.


199 posted on 10/06/2013 8:44:42 PM PDT by bray (Coming Jan 2014: The Republic of Texas 2022)
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To: bray

Then those companies deserve to suffer a few days. It is time to end this crony capitalism and build a real market.


They do deserve to suffer.


200 posted on 10/07/2013 6:52:46 AM PDT by PaleoBob
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