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Saudis fear tide of Syria war turning against their interests
Financial Times (FT.com) ^ | Oct 6, 2013 | Abeer Allam in Abu Dhabi

Posted on 10/07/2013 3:38:49 AM PDT by PapaBear3625

Until a few weeks ago, Saudi Arabia was riding high. Its regional policies, based on countering revolutionary fervour and containing Iran, appeared to be bearing fruit. Egypt’s army ousted the Islamist president, to plaudits and generous funding from Riyadh; the Syrian opposition elected a new pro-Saudi leadership; and the US seemed poised to launch military strikes on the regime in Damascus that Saudi Arabia has tried to dislodge.

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As the challenges in Syria grow, there are fears in Riyadh that the war could drag on for more than a decade, draining Saudi coffers and destabilising the region. There are also concerns in Tehran that the proxy conflict between the two countries is getting out of control.

(Excerpt) Read more at ft.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Syria; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: shiite; suuni
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The Saudis, and their al-Qaeda proxies, are in trouble in Syria. It's costing the Saudis money that they need to maintain their high-end domestic welfare state

From the perspective of the US's real interests (as opposed to Obama's and State's), letting the radicals kill each other far away from us, is a Good Thing.

1 posted on 10/07/2013 3:38:49 AM PDT by PapaBear3625
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To: PapaBear3625

Now we need to promote the use of natural gas in this country as a transportation fuel. It would be nice if we could eliminate the need to import 10 to 12% of the worlds oil. Once oil prices drop, Iran for one would need to pump and sell more oil to maintain their domestic programs. More oil on the world market should lead to much lower prices.


2 posted on 10/07/2013 3:45:48 AM PDT by meatloaf
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To: PapaBear3625

I believe this is propaganda. The Saudis are worried about nothing.


3 posted on 10/07/2013 3:47:16 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: PapaBear3625

correct. Let the Saudis and Iranis fight each other. We should only protect the Christians in Syria (10 to 15% of the population)


4 posted on 10/07/2013 4:13:38 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama’s dislike of Assad is not based on Assad’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: meatloaf

Correct. NG, diesel and improved ICEs. also in the big cities congestion taxes (let the NYers pay for democrats)


5 posted on 10/07/2013 4:14:53 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama’s dislike of Assad is not based on Assad’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: meatloaf
America's welfare/warfare state has grown up around the petrodollar arrangement between OPEC and America. By importing vast quantities of oil from OPEC nations, we are better able to maintain this arrangement. If we were to suddenly stop being a customer for OPEC oil, there would be enormous pressure on them to accept currency other than dollars which would threaten not only our way of life but all of western capitalism.

The petrodollar arrangement has been very good for us but, unfortunately, it's a jesus nut and, as such, we spend a lot of time, money, and energy ensuring that that nut doesn't come off because if it does, it's COMWEC time.

Furthermore, I'm not sure lower oil prices are a good thing for America. If supply is too high and/or demand is too low, prices drop and shale oil extraction becomes cost prohibitive.

This is my present understanding of the situation.

6 posted on 10/07/2013 4:21:22 AM PDT by RC one
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To: PapaBear3625

AQ is not a proxie for Saudi Arabia. AQ is a Saudi enemy. Usama fled Saudi Arabia because he was not wanted


7 posted on 10/07/2013 4:23:42 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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Then AQ is a proxy for Iran then.


8 posted on 10/07/2013 4:40:52 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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I think so.

I believe they have common goals and perhaps with the death of Usama bin Ladin have come closer.

I do not believe they are yet one and the same


9 posted on 10/07/2013 4:43:36 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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Then AQ is a proxy for Iran then.

No, Shiite Hezbollah is associated with Iran, not Sunni al-Qaeda.

10 posted on 10/07/2013 4:45:50 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Sacajaweau

Everyone living in the mess that is the Middle East is worried — all the time


11 posted on 10/07/2013 5:23:30 AM PDT by expat2
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To: RC one

The shale plays, even with the low current price of natural gas, are being pursued in areas with wet gas. The money is in the butane, propane and ethane that is being stripped from the natural gas. The oil is a by product in a sense.

Lowering energy costs in this country may provide impetus for economic development. If nothing else, forcing gasoline prices lower would allow families with members that must commute to work to use the money saved for other expenses.

It might open up minimum wage jobs to people that currently can’t afford the commuting costs to get to work.


12 posted on 10/07/2013 5:25:46 AM PDT by meatloaf
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To: Sacajaweau

The only thing the Saudis are worried about is not getting a return on their investment by not being able to run pipe through their client state in Syria. Right now, it’s Russia’s client and not inclined to lay Saudi pipe.

The Saudis aren’t going to spend any more cash than they can afford.


13 posted on 10/07/2013 5:51:16 AM PDT by henkster (Communists never negotiate.)
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To: meatloaf
Now we need to promote the use of natural gas in this country as a transportation fuel. It would be nice if we could eliminate the need to import 10 to 12% of the worlds oil. Once oil prices drop, Iran for one would need to pump and sell more oil to maintain their domestic programs. More oil on the world market should lead to much lower prices.

Reagan defeated the Soviet Union by deregulating oil prices in America. We need to do the same with regard to environmental laws that effectively do the same. The problem is how do we assure responsibility while dismantling the government's ability to hold producers accountable? There is a way to do that via tort reform and insurance deregulation in a carefully designed market structure. This is where the laboratory of natural law competition among the states would shine.

14 posted on 10/07/2013 6:19:20 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (ZeroCare: Make them pay; do not delay.)
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To: RC one

... it’s a jesus nut ...
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First time I’ve heard that term in many years!

I’m a retiree after 35 years at Bell, so I suppose you’re also very familiar with choppers. Good on ya!


15 posted on 10/07/2013 6:32:50 AM PDT by octex
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To: PapaBear3625

hmmm....sounds like somebody’s Harvard tuition receipts are about to mysteriously appear on Hillary Clinton’s coffee table...


16 posted on 10/07/2013 6:33:39 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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Saudis fear tide of Syria war turning against their interests.

Translation: Saudis want the US to protect their interests.


17 posted on 10/07/2013 6:38:59 AM PDT by Henry Hnyellar
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Saudis play it close to the vest and generally announce nothing.

The announcement should be taken to mean that they are now free of the binding agreements with the USA that was holding them and their coalition of Turks and other Gulf powers from action in Syria.


18 posted on 10/07/2013 6:44:13 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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Saudis keep their friends close and their enemies even closer.


19 posted on 10/07/2013 6:44:36 AM PDT by dfwgator
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AQ is not a proxie for Saudi Arabia. AQ is a Saudi enemy. Usama fled Saudi Arabia because he was not wanted

The "Golden Chain" , a list of financial supporters of AQ, recovered in a raid by US forces. Check out the number of wealthy Saudis.

Osama was not wanted in Saudi, but he was supported as long as he was pissing OUT of the tent, rather than IN.

20 posted on 10/07/2013 6:53:21 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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