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Ohio School District Agrees To Keep Portrait of Jesus Off Wall, Pay $95G Fine (ACLU Barf Alert)
Fox News ^ | Ocotber 7, 2013 | Staff

Posted on 10/07/2013 4:38:18 PM PDT by lbryce

An Ohio school district has agreed to keep a portrait of Jesus Christ off school property and pay a $95,000 fine in the face of legal pressure from the American Civil Liberties Union.

The Jackson City School District, located in Jackson, reached a deal on Friday after the ACLU, along with the Wisconsin-based Freedom from Religion Foundation, sued the district in February, citing “unconstitutional” actions and charging that students and visitors to the school “will continue to suffer permanent, severe and irreparable harm and injury,” according to the lawsuit.

The picture had been hanging in Jackson’s high school since 1947 as part of a “Hall of Honor” display meant to highlight famous historical figures.

“The case could have ended before it began if the school had simply acknowledged that it is not the government’s place to endorse one specific religion in a public school that children are legally required to attend,” said James Hardiman, the legal director for Ohio’s ACLU chapter.

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KEYWORDS: aclu; aclujesus; antichristianbigotry; atheists; christians; jesus; lawsuit; leftismoncampus; purge
Can you imagine the resources expended by the ACLU to insist a picture displayed since 1947 be removed?

But it gets even more outrageous as the ACLU tries to spin the story as if somehow the school was at fault. “The case could have ended before it began....

How the hell this cockamamie statement has anything to do with anything is more than maddening.

You would never find a similar kind of religious witch hunt regarding Islamic sensibilities, say a picture of Mohammad being displayed in some Muslim school. Not the least of which Islam forbids any imagery, iconic representation of history's very first Islamofascist/Jihadist/Terrorist.

The prohibition against 'Woe-Mo' imagery has been explained in practical terms as that of Mohammad's facial features having made the view of a camel's butt seem arousing by comparison.

1 posted on 10/07/2013 4:38:18 PM PDT by lbryce
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To: lbryce

So atheists don’t believe in Jesus, therefore they want His picture taken down. The logic escapes me.


2 posted on 10/07/2013 4:40:20 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: lbryce

Congressional Record—Appendix, pp. A34-A35

January 10, 1963

Current Communist Goals

#28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of “separation of church and state.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3075954/posts


3 posted on 10/07/2013 4:43:13 PM PDT by B4Ranch (AGENDA: Grinding America Down ----- <<http://vimeo.com/63749370)
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To: lbryce

If Ohio State takes in public funds they should reject it and tell ACLU pound sand. Surely the football program covers most costs.


4 posted on 10/07/2013 4:48:00 PM PDT by deadrock (I am someone else.)
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To: lbryce

Put up a picture of the actor Robert Powell.

“No. No Jesus picture here.”


5 posted on 10/07/2013 4:49:19 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: lbryce
I don't het it ...

Someone gets offended, makes a complaint and a letter is sent or a phone call is made.

Principal files 13.

Maybe later, a knock on the door ... come on in gentlemen ... no, I don't think I will

a bit later, the news is notified and armed popo calls aknockin' ... yeah?, waddaya' want? ... no, I don't think I will

Freerepublic gets a hold of it, as well as Matt and WND, Glenn is notified and the picture is seized by force.

the next day, another goes up.


See ... I just can't see anyone doing anything serious because of a picture ... except ... losin' a hunnert grand BECAUSE of a picture (with no fight) ???

I don't think so.

6 posted on 10/07/2013 4:50:01 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Absolutely ,, even atheists MUST CONCLUDE that he is a powerful historical figure even if they don’t believe in the historical texts which we call the “Bible” .


7 posted on 10/07/2013 4:50:03 PM PDT by Neidermeyer (I used to be disgusted , now I try to be amused.)
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To: lbryce

continue to suffer permanent, severe and irreparable harm and injury,” according to the lawsuit.


This is hysterical.

The school district sure does look foolish caving to this rhetoric above.


8 posted on 10/07/2013 4:50:08 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: Neidermeyer

The ACLU is stupid. How can it be a picture of Jesus when no one knows what he looked like? Why won’t anyone stand up to the ACLU? I guess the same reason they won’t stand up to Obama, though I admit I don’t know what that reason is.


9 posted on 10/07/2013 4:52:39 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: lbryce

Couldn’t they just put up a picture of Mohammed to
make it even?

/extreme Sarc.


10 posted on 10/07/2013 4:52:40 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: lbryce

“will continue to suffer permanent, severe and irreparable harm and injury,” according to the lawsuit.

Can I claim the same from looking at and listening to Obama?


11 posted on 10/07/2013 4:53:33 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: lbryce
Leave it to the ACLU to word it thus;

“The case could have ended before it began if the school had simply acknowledged that it is not the government’s place to endorse one specific religion in a public school that children are legally required to attend,” said James Hardiman, the legal director for Ohio’s ACLU chapter."

See ... THE school is not the school children are legally required to attend ...

A school is the requirement.

If it's public, don't take Jesus down, put up Mary Baker Eddy and mohamud.

Or admit it is government indoctrination camp.

12 posted on 10/07/2013 4:53:38 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: lbryce
1947 Everson v. Board of Education. Justice/Klansman Hugo Black and his infamous "wall of separation" baloney.

This and other horrendous damage to our country and society were made possible by the 17th Amendment.

13 posted on 10/07/2013 4:58:24 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Obamacare forces slaves to buy their chains.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Atheists are idiots.


14 posted on 10/07/2013 5:06:37 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: RginTN
It wasn't clear from the story.

The school took the picture down, but still got a "fine" of $95K?

And the "fine" goes to the ACLU and the Freedom From Religion kooks?

15 posted on 10/07/2013 5:16:56 PM PDT by boop ("You don't look so bad, here's another")
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To: lbryce
I don't know what got the ACLU's knickers in a twist. It was just a picture of a guy with long hair. All they had to do is say "It's a picture of a guy with long hair" Heck, they could have said it was Obama.

 photo obamamessiah.jpg

There are no actual pictures of Yashua anyway. Nobody knows what He looked like. They're all depictions.

16 posted on 10/07/2013 5:18:08 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral)
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To: lbryce

How did they know it was Jesus. If they claim to know what Jesus looked like, he must have been a historical figure. If they say some might think that it is a religious symbol then for the sake of the pantheists and new-agers all matter must be removed. The sun has been worshiped in antiquity by the Egyptians, no windows or pictures of yellow circles, the moon was considered a deity, no moons, stars Yep they must go too. The only way to purify the schools from all religious associations is to create a perfect void of nothingness, oops that would nirvana a Hindu religious tenant.


17 posted on 10/07/2013 5:20:13 PM PDT by DaveyB ("When injustice becomes the law; rebellion becomes duty." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: SkyDancer

But still, depictions are not prohibited.


18 posted on 10/07/2013 5:28:25 PM PDT by lbryce (:)
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To: lbryce
Then, every time we see a picture(ds) of Lenin, Mao, Stalin, Fidel, Hitler,..we should cite ["unconstitutional” actions and charging that we were assaulted and suffered permanent, severe and irreparable harm and injury,”] by being forced to look upon the pictures.
19 posted on 10/07/2013 5:29:57 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: lbryce

Matthew 10:33

But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.


20 posted on 10/07/2013 5:33:10 PM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: lbryce

Depictions are not prohibited or they are prohibited? I was the principal I would have said “It’s just a guy, a street person.” - these ACLU types are sure going to be chagrined when they meet up in Heaven. I’d want to hear their excuses.


21 posted on 10/07/2013 5:42:03 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral)
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To: DaveyB

Just put up a picture of the sun. That’ll confuse them.


22 posted on 10/07/2013 5:43:02 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral)
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To: SVTCobra03
Wow... I was going to say something about the cost to the taxpayers for this, and how in the end the ACLU is only going to turn more and more people against them through their wallets, if nothing else. I hope!!! But your note, well, it made every thought I had inconsequential, and I loved it! Thank you and if you don’t mind, I’d like to close with it again:

Matthew 10:33

But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

23 posted on 10/07/2013 6:30:09 PM PDT by GizzyGirl
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To: lbryce

I wonder what the fine in the next life will be?


24 posted on 10/07/2013 6:32:46 PM PDT by PaForBush
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To: lbryce

Freedom FROM Religion? I don’t know of any religion that forces people to join. And Islam is not a religion.


25 posted on 10/07/2013 6:49:26 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: DaveyB

That’s a brilliant observation that under realization is difficult to understand. Maybe the school didn’t deny the identity of the person in the image as matter of principle.


26 posted on 10/07/2013 7:05:31 PM PDT by lbryce (:)
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To: SkyDancer

Please see post #26.


27 posted on 10/07/2013 7:06:30 PM PDT by lbryce (:)
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To: lbryce

Another “victory” over Christians brought to you by the hatred, vitriol, and intolerance of the militant atheist.


28 posted on 10/07/2013 7:18:43 PM PDT by windsorknot (>>>)
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To: boop

It wasn’t clear from the story.
The school took the picture down, but still got a “fine” of $95K?

And the “fine” goes to the ACLU and the Freedom From Religion kooks?


ACLU/FFR robbing from poor taxpayer parents...crazy.


29 posted on 10/07/2013 8:03:43 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: lbryce

Someone has a picture of Jesus? That would be extremely rare since cameras at the time were very expensive.


30 posted on 10/07/2013 9:56:47 PM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: lbryce

Terrible example you gave. You say that the ACLU would not have a problem with Mohammad at a Muslim school. I hope the wouldn’t. Jesus’ picture is in every classroom in Catholic schools throughout America. I went to Catholic school from Kindergarten through 12th grade and said the rosery, went to Mass and had the crusifix in every classroom. Those parents in that school should enroll their children in Carholic school. Not only is it full of religion, but the education is top notch.


31 posted on 10/08/2013 6:00:48 AM PDT by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: lbryce

Wonder why it took the ACLU so long to find out about it.


32 posted on 10/08/2013 6:21:40 AM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral)
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To: lbryce; ADemocratNoMore; Akron Al; arbee4bush; agrace; ATOMIC_PUNK; Badeye; Bikers4Bush; ...

Ohio Ping

Article posted Oct 7, 2013
The Jackson City School District (U.S. District Court of the Southern District of Ohio)

An Ohio school district has agreed to keep a portrait of Jesus Christ off school property and pay a $95,000 fine in the face of legal pressure from the American Civil Liberties Union.


33 posted on 10/11/2013 6:06:49 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: lbryce; P-Marlowe

Jackson is right in the heart of the southern Ohio bible belt, my home area. There is no way that anyone could look at the culture of this area and conclude anything other than that it’s solidly Christian. Those who aren’t attenders themselves are culturally conservative Christian.

My point is that this is an OVERWHELMINGLY Christian region. Just like when the lawyers forced the 10 commandment be removed from our schools here where I live, the lawyers are denigrating the undeniable culture of the Jackson area. I have no doubt.

A person should not be surprised to see a people’s religion mentioned at any point of their daily lives. Forced excision of their religion or forced neutrality toward their religion is a pronouncement by authorities that their way is better than the people’s way. In other words, the authorities have placed their religious views over those of the people in that area. They have established a “correct religion”.

Also, they are attempting to enforce “freedom of worship” in place of “freedom of religion”. I am a Christian 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, anyplace I am. The authorities are telling me I can be a Christian ONLY on their schedule and their allowed locations.

God and the US Constitution say that I can be a Christian 24/7....that I have “free exercise”.

And, so does everyone else. So, the Constitutional Founders decided the best course for our nation was to live and let live. In other words, adults recognize that there are other religions than their own, and that those people follow their religion. It is better to just have everyone be themselves than to establish religion police to enforce the state’s ideas on religion.

Therefore, it is absolutely fine for that school district, in that area, to have Jesus hanging on their wall with no other religious or historical figures also present to give a picture of neutrality. Their area is NOT neutral. It is Christian.

Adults know it’s a Christian region and aren’t surprised. Despots know it’s a Christian region and want to make everyone bow to their authoritarian views.


34 posted on 10/11/2013 7:32:31 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Whenifhow; lbryce
This is truly disgraceful in every way, and particularly when you consider the very difficult "school funding" issues Ohio has constantly faced (re: property tax funding, State apportionments, "equitable" funding, etc.)...

It seems we have a "school levy" up almost every "off-election" date I turn around (those "special elections" in May/August), and for this apparently rural (?) community to hand over this kind of money to the A.C.L.U. because they can't afford to pursue their case any further in court...

I wish someone with deep pockets would take up their cause and put an end to this legalistic blackmail and thuggery!!

35 posted on 10/12/2013 5:04:10 PM PDT by 88keys (I'm sorry, sir, I don't fit in a handbasket...)
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