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Measuring Obamacare enrollment is actually kind of tricky
Washington Post ^ | October 7, 2013 | By Sarah Kliff

Posted on 10/08/2013 6:49:04 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

We're nearly one week into Obamacare's open enrollment period. What we do know: It's been a bumpy ride. What we don't know: How many people have signed up.

That's because there are a number of steps in the application process for health insurance under the Affordable Care Act. And states are using lots of different metrics to determine how well their new insurance marketplaces are going.

When the District of Columbia's Health Benefit Link crunches the numbers on who has done what on their Web site ... on the D.C. Health Link's first day, 175 people requested invoices whereas four people actually went ahead and paid the premium.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: failure; obamacare; rinocare
Train wreck.
1 posted on 10/08/2013 6:49:04 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

tricky = lie like a muslim prayer rug...


2 posted on 10/08/2013 6:51:02 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The 0bamacare machine wants to know everything about everybody but we can't get any useful information about it in return?

3 posted on 10/08/2013 6:51:56 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

What this says to me is that people don’t want it and aren’t signing up....apparently even the low information voters know enough to stay off of this train wreck waiting to happen.


4 posted on 10/08/2013 6:53:11 AM PDT by basil (2ASisters.org)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

uh huh


5 posted on 10/08/2013 6:54:01 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

They know exactly how many of the successfully created accounts actually bought policies.

The number is so low that they are embarrassed. It’s because people thought it would be free and it’s not.

Look for them to use their navigators to “buy” policies off the exchange to make their numbers look better.

Oh... Kate, pass this over to your IT people.

This will give you the number of actual accounts:
Select count(*) from Accounts

This will give you the number of people with policies:
Select count(*) from Accounts
Where PolicyEffectiveDate is not null

Simple enough?


6 posted on 10/08/2013 6:54:15 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: BitWielder1

Well, given the state of our schools, I am not surprised that no one in government knows how to count. Someone explain to them that 1 + 1 = 2, and 1 + 1 + 1 = 3, and so on. They might figure it out eventually.


7 posted on 10/08/2013 6:54:35 AM PDT by MrChips (MrChips)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Three years to implement a basic counting function and now only excuses.


8 posted on 10/08/2013 6:54:36 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: MrB

You’re exactly right. The underlying database(s) can easily calculate this. They just don’t like the results of the count. It is politically embarrassing and indicates that Obamacare will collapse under the weight of high costs to taxpayers.


9 posted on 10/08/2013 6:57:16 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Tricky when it’s a trickle, eh, Kathy?


10 posted on 10/08/2013 6:59:05 AM PDT by madison10
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

One can always count on the limpwrists at the WaPo to conjure up whatever lie will most easily explain the latest Obamadork idiocy.

Face it, bottom O-the SAT barrel journalism majors, your guy is a lying piece of excrement who couldn’t run a lemonade stand without the help of a mentally superior five year old.


11 posted on 10/08/2013 7:01:57 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; Eaker; Absolutely Nobama; afnamvet; Ancesthntr; An Old Man; APatientMan; ...

(I just posted this on the comments after the article. If you “like” it, then it will stay at the top and give thousands of libtards a bleeding ulcer.)

Imagine, the same fedgov that can set the NSA loose on the entire world including America to spy on us and comb through our emails and phone calls, with a three-year head start can’t set up a working software program to administer Obama’s signature legislation, the ACA.

If Apple rolled out a new product and it crashed and burned like the ACA, every engineer involved would be fired. But it doesn’t matter to the fedgov, because they have a monopoly on force, and no matter how rotten Obamacare is, we’ll be forced to accept it being shoved down our throats. And if we don’t, the IRS will just take our “fines” (taxes?) out of our tax returns.

Welcome to the USSA. Now, shut up and be a good comrade and salute Dear Leader Obama, or the IRS will be told to audit you, and if that won’t work, the NSA will “find” some evidence of criminal behavior in your old emails or phone calls.

This is what dictatorship looks like as it comes creeping in. This is not freedom. This is not the America I was born and raised in. This is socialist tyranny, clicking the ratchets tighter and tighter around our throats.


12 posted on 10/08/2013 7:09:16 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“It sucks AND we’re clueless.”

Great launch. When’s the party?


13 posted on 10/08/2013 7:12:24 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Need health care? Dial 1-800-F1UCK-YO to reach Obama's hotline)
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To: MrB

This should be good for at least three months worth of Dilbert cartoons...


14 posted on 10/08/2013 7:15:33 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: MrB

I think no one has been able to sign up. Not a single person. Not one.

Why do I say that?

Because the media would be all over themselves interviewing those that were able to sign up and since no one was able to, there is no one to interview extolling the virtues of government “healthcare.”

The fact is they can’t find one single person that was able to sign up.


15 posted on 10/08/2013 7:21:32 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: Hulka

Didn’t they find one guy?
And didn’t he turn out to be one of the “navigators”?


16 posted on 10/08/2013 7:22:32 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

They found one guy and were embarrassed to find out he never did sign up, it was a hoax by that guy, a demoRAT activist: http://reason.com/archives/2013/10/04/obamacare-chad-henderson-father


17 posted on 10/08/2013 7:24:57 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: Travis McGee
A thumbs up for your post on the Washington (Com)Post.

We're not far from the tipping point now, are we?

What would Michael Collins do?

18 posted on 10/08/2013 7:46:08 AM PDT by Noumenon (What would Michael Collins do?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“Tricky?” Heck, it’s downright sorcery! After all, you’ve got to turn this leaden failure into political gold. Even Rumpelstiltskin got to start with straw.

You’ve got to convince people that a program none of them wanted is popular, that a program costing far more than alleged will cost less, that you should trust your lives and health to a government that can’t even roll out a website, and that the arrogant buffoon who is the author of this debacle is actually a suave, urbane intellectual who gives a fiddler’s f__k about the common man.

Tricky? Merlin, Gandalf, and Dumbledore together couldn’t pull this off. Even with the Washington post helping out.


19 posted on 10/08/2013 7:49:21 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: IronJack

yep. Someday they will teach a computer to count....


20 posted on 10/08/2013 8:01:21 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Noumenon

I think we’re being goaded into a bad response, to be used as an excuse for a crackdown.


21 posted on 10/08/2013 8:05:22 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Measuring the abject failure of ObozoCare is simple. Trying to find success in enrolling in ObozoCare is next to impossible:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3076143/posts

Experts: Only “Hundreds” Have Been Able to Sign Up for Obamacare Online Gateway Pundit ^ | October 7, 2013 | Jim Hoft

Posted on Monday, October 07, 2013 9:34:46 PM by 2ndDivisionVet

What ineptitude.

In Obamacare’s first week online.
** Millions of Americans were turned away.
** The online system crashed.
** 99% of applications may have hit a wall and weren’t processed.
** The Obamacare website shut down after only a week in operation.

Now this… Only “hundreds” have been able to sign up for a health care plan at the Obamacare websites. The Wall Street Journal reported:

About 30 million uninsured people live in the states the federal marketplace will serve, including Texas and Florida.

So far, Web-traffic problems are allowing only a small trickle of buyers, said John Gorman, chief executive of Gorman Health Group, an insurance-industry consulting firm with clients selling policies on the exchanges.

Large insurers have seen enrollment figures totaling in the hundreds each, said Sumit Nijhawan, chief executive of Infogix Inc., a data-integrity firm that works with such insurers as WellPoint Inc., Aetna Inc. and Cigna Corp.

So far, many tens of thousands of people had started the application process but the number of those who were able to create accounts and shop for coverage is likely in the low thousands, according to people with knowledge of the situation and estimates by insurance-industry advisers.

The administration has declined to say the total number of enrollees.

Team Obama also has been exaggerating their numbers…
For example, California initially claimed more than 5 million hits on the first day of enrollment, but has now clarified that they received only 645,000.


22 posted on 10/08/2013 9:23:34 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Boycott Reno & Las Vegas until those in control there, remove Reid from the senate!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Sounds like one of those deals that depends on what the definition of “is” is. Actually, this article is a good analysis of sketchy data, and the bottom line is that it shows that the BammyKare train has already smashed through the “Bridge Out!” sign and is only seconds away from the plunge down the gorge.

The Pubs should stand tall for delaying BammyKare for the peasants for at least a year, just like the Bammster himself illegally delayed it for big and small biz for a year. As the word filters out that BammyKare triples most people’s insurance premiums as well as doubles their deductibles, the peasants will have lit their torches and gathered their pitchforks and will be demanding the delay themselves, despite the massive spin the KommieMedia has used to desperately hide the train wreck. I mean after all, who are the peasants gonna believe, their own eyes are the lying KommieMedia?


23 posted on 10/08/2013 9:36:58 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; All

So, 4 people (in D.C.) actually paid the tax, so that oney could be re-distributed per the intent of this entitlement program...

Stupid is as stupid does...


24 posted on 10/08/2013 9:56:38 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: Grampa Dave

“Now this… Only “hundreds” have been able to sign up for a health care plan at the Obamacare websites. The Wall Street Journal reported:”

If that is true, why hasn’t WSJ (or any number of media) found one of those hundreds and interviewed them?

I say again, the reason they haven’t been interviewed is because NO ONE HAS BEEN ABLE TO SUCCESSFULLT sign-up.

IMHO.


25 posted on 10/08/2013 3:12:55 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: Hulka

“I say again, the reason they haven’t been interviewed is because NO ONE HAS BEEN ABLE TO SUCCESSFULLT sign-up.”

You may be correct, and there may be another issue.

That issue is the apparent very high cost of ObozoCare, plus the higher deductibles and co pays.

If and when potential users get through, they are shell shocked re the high costs and don’t sign up.


26 posted on 10/08/2013 3:19:54 PM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Boycott Reno & Las Vegas until those in control there, remove Reid from the senate!)
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