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Proposed law would require Michigan pints of beer to hold 16 ounces
UPI ^ | Oct 7, 2013

Posted on 10/08/2013 8:15:17 AM PDT by posterchild

LANSING, Mich., Oct. 7 (UPI) -- A proposed law in Michigan is aimed at ensuring beer drinkers who pay for a pint get at least 16 ounces.

The measure was introduced in the House last week, MLive.com reported. It would ban what barflies refer to as "cheater glasses" with thick bottoms so they look like they hold a pint but actually take a few ounces less.

State Rep. Jim Irwin, a Democrat from the college town of Ann Arbor, said the state regulates meat and other foodstuffs to make sure buyers get what they pay for. Irwin introduced a similar law in 2011 after being shorted on a pint of beer and is a co-sponsor of the new legislation.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: beer; justice; law; measures; mi; michigan; panther; pint; scales; weights
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1 posted on 10/08/2013 8:15:17 AM PDT by posterchild
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To: posterchild

In Germany, and the rest of Europe I think, the glasses that you are served in restaurants and bars have lines on them stating the amount of liquid in each..................


2 posted on 10/08/2013 8:18:15 AM PDT by Red Badger (It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong. .....Voltaire)
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To: posterchild

Now that I can get behind.


3 posted on 10/08/2013 8:18:27 AM PDT by svcw (obama lied my plan died)
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To: Red Badger

Right-O!


4 posted on 10/08/2013 8:19:21 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: posterchild

"It comes in pints?? I'm getting one!"

5 posted on 10/08/2013 8:20:14 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (21st century. I'm not a fan.)
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To: posterchild

Doesn’t anybody play it straight anymore?


6 posted on 10/08/2013 8:21:14 AM PDT by Paulie
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To: posterchild

Yeah, can’t argue this one. If they say it’s a pint, then it had better be a pint, or it’s fraud.


7 posted on 10/08/2013 8:21:39 AM PDT by kevkrom (It's not "immigration reform", it's an "amnesty bill". Take back the language!)
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To: posterchild

Hooray for government regulation. Braarraaap. Hckickup.


8 posted on 10/08/2013 8:21:50 AM PDT by mbarker12474
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To: posterchild

Did somebody say free beer?


9 posted on 10/08/2013 8:23:04 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Producing Talk Show Prep since 1998.)
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To: Red Badger

I’ve put many of those glasses and mugs to the test!!!! LOL


10 posted on 10/08/2013 8:23:23 AM PDT by Forrestfire (Don't expect to build up the weak by pulling down the strong. Calvin Coolidge)
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To: IbJensen

11 posted on 10/08/2013 8:23:37 AM PDT by Red Badger (It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong. .....Voltaire)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Ah, my FRiend, let me introduce you to the Giant Imperial Quart!


12 posted on 10/08/2013 8:23:45 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Occupy the DC Mall - take back the monuments)
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To: posterchild

Priorities are straight in Michigan!


13 posted on 10/08/2013 8:23:46 AM PDT by bigbob (Eat it Harry!)
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To: svcw

Finally government does something USE-FULL! (sic)(hic).................


14 posted on 10/08/2013 8:24:52 AM PDT by Red Badger (It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong. .....Voltaire)
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To: VRW Conspirator

Only to see the talking frog.


15 posted on 10/08/2013 8:27:43 AM PDT by boomop1 (term limits will only save this country.)
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To: posterchild

So!

“They”’ve been screwing us on me pint, too...
Absolutely NOTHING is sacred!!!!!

Semper B@$tard$ !!!!!!!!!!

Dick G
*****


16 posted on 10/08/2013 8:30:01 AM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: Red Badger

I am somewhat chagrined to admit that I never realized those lines are measurements.

The most useful one—an 8 ounce line—was omitted, though.


17 posted on 10/08/2013 8:30:36 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: posterchild

It’s becoming common for sports bars in the U.S. to use 14 ounce glasses in order to avoid raising prices on the menu. If they don’t label it as pint on the menu, then that’s ok, but if they do, then it’s fraud. Also, I’m pretty sure a lot of customers are still saying “give me a pint of ...” and are actually receiving 14oz glasses, which is borderline fraud if the waitperson doesn’t educate them.


18 posted on 10/08/2013 8:30:38 AM PDT by Stevenc131
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To: posterchild

Seeing that this is a democrat proposal you might want to look deeper...

Like in order to enforce this law every glass of beer will be taxed an addition 20 cents.

Just Saying!


19 posted on 10/08/2013 8:32:10 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: kevkrom
Yeah, can’t argue this one. If they say it’s a pint, then it had better be a pint, or it’s fraud.

Quite honestly, I don't get it. Don't they have laws about fraud? Don't they enforce those laws? My uncle was a deputy director of the ABC in NJ and this was exactly the kind of stuff they went after. Could it be that some politician would like a law on the books with his name on it?

20 posted on 10/08/2013 8:35:34 AM PDT by trubolotta
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To: Red Badger

If you’re at a picnic it might be acceptable to drink beer in a Solo cup, but if you’re at home, please, buy decent beer glasses. An exception being if you’re drinking Corona, Bud Light or similar ‘beer’, the Solo cups won’t hurt, so proceed.


21 posted on 10/08/2013 8:35:45 AM PDT by Stevenc131
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To: posterchild

I understand these Budweiser “Bow Tie” cans actually hold 1/2 an oz. less than a standard beer can.

I wonder what the Great State of Michigan intends to do about THAT???


22 posted on 10/08/2013 8:38:31 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: exDemMom

They are not ‘official’ measurements, and according to Solo, they are just lines on a mold, not meant for anything specific.

http://gizmodo.com/5918077/what-the-lines-of-a-red-solo-cup-actually-mean

The urban myth, if you want to call it that may have started with a Toby Keith country song:

Red Solo Cup

Toby Keith
Songwriters: Beavers, Brett; Beavers, Jim; Warren, Brad; Warren, Brett

Now, red solo cup is the best receptical
For barbecues, tailgates, fairs, and festivals
And you, sir, do not have a pair of testicles
If you prefer drinkin’ from glass

Hey, red solo cup is cheap and disposable
And in fourteen years, they are decomposable
And unlike my home, they are not foreclosable
Freddy Mac can kiss my ass

Whoo!

Red solo cup
I fill you up
Let’s have a party
Let’s have a party

I love you, red solo cup
I lift you up
Proceed to party
Proceed to party

Now, I really love how you’re easy to stack
But I really hate how you’re easy to crack
‘Cause when beer runs down in front of my pack
Well, that, my friends, is quite yucky

But I have to admit that the ladies get smitten
Admirin’ how sharply my first name is written
On you with a Sharpie when I get to hittin’
On them to help me get lucky

Red solo cup
I fill you up
Let’s have a party
Let’s have a party

I love you, red solo cup
I lift you up
Proceed to party
Proceed to party

Now, I’ve seen you in blue and I’ve seen you in yellow
But only you, red, will do for this fellow
‘Cause you are the Abbot to my Costello
And you are the Fruit to my Loom

Red solo cup, you’re more than just plastic
You’re more than amazing, you’re more than fantastic
And believe me that I am not the least bit sarcastic
When I look at you and say

Red solo cup, you’re not just a cup
(No! No! No! God, no! )
You’re my-you’re my (Friend?) friend
(Friend x3; Life-long)
Thank you for being my friend

Red solo cup
I fill you up
Let’s have a party
Let’s have a party

I love you, red solo cup
I lift you up
Proceed to party
Proceed to party

Red solo cup
I fill you up
Let’s have a party
Let’s have a party

Red solo cup
Let’s have a party
Proceed to party


23 posted on 10/08/2013 8:44:11 AM PDT by Red Badger (It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong. .....Voltaire)
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To: Stevenc131

See post #23...............


24 posted on 10/08/2013 8:46:13 AM PDT by Red Badger (It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong. .....Voltaire)
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To: posterchild

Silly me, I thought people had these these things called feet. If you aren’t getting what you paid for, don’t drink there.


25 posted on 10/08/2013 8:46:36 AM PDT by Phillyred
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To: cripplecreek; posterchild

MI ping.


26 posted on 10/08/2013 8:48:02 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (I'd give up chocolate but I'm no quitter)
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To: posterchild

It seems like there would already be laws on the books requiring a pint to be 16 oz.


27 posted on 10/08/2013 8:49:45 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Red Badger

28 posted on 10/08/2013 8:50:33 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: posterchild

Now THERE’s a State with their priorities in order.


29 posted on 10/08/2013 8:52:46 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: posterchild

Why not make it a half-liter? Kill two birds with one stone—use the politically correct metric system and make the pint a guaranteed 16.9 ounces?


30 posted on 10/08/2013 9:02:13 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: PoloSec

Following your logic, it’s okay to sell 120 fluid ounces of gasoline as a “gallon”? There’s a reason why units of measure in commerce are regulated and enforced.


31 posted on 10/08/2013 9:05:36 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: freedomfiter2
-- It seems like there would already be laws on the books requiring a pint to be 16 oz. --

Or a law redefining one unit or the other. Make a "pint" = "10 ounces", makes as much sense as most of the legislation we're subjected to because some arrogant people think they know better.

32 posted on 10/08/2013 9:10:28 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Red Badger

Whoa.... I suddenly feel cheated and violated....


33 posted on 10/08/2013 9:15:35 AM PDT by Noamie
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34 posted on 10/08/2013 9:17:20 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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35 posted on 10/08/2013 9:21:28 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: posterchild

I thought Ann Arbor was a Dry Town?...../s


36 posted on 10/08/2013 9:26:10 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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To: posterchild

Finally some good news.


37 posted on 10/08/2013 9:33:55 AM PDT by bikerman (Obama! if his lips are moving he's lying.)
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To: posterchild

Make sure those 1oz shot glasses hold a troy oz or more.


38 posted on 10/08/2013 9:48:09 AM PDT by pallis
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To: posterchild

As it should be.


39 posted on 10/08/2013 9:53:05 AM PDT by madison10
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To: factoryrat

I thought it would go without saying, but it seems I should have added /s tag.


40 posted on 10/08/2013 10:07:59 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: posterchild

One would think that would be required by simple truth in advertising, but I know a lot of bars short a supposed pint.


41 posted on 10/08/2013 10:10:08 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Cboldt
If we regulate a mile to now be 5,000 feet, that will mean that auto manufacturers can now meet the EPA'S new fuel efficiency standards?

-PJ

42 posted on 10/08/2013 10:21:41 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Political Junkie Too
Now your cookin' with gas! The democrats would go the other way, legislate that a mile is 10,000 feet.

I just wish they'd repeal the law of gravity ... oh, wait, there is no such thing as gravity, the whole earth sucks.

43 posted on 10/08/2013 10:25:17 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Pearls Before Swine
Why not make it a half-liter? Kill two birds with one stone—use the politically correct metric system and make the pint a guaranteed 16.9 ounces?

From 1984 by George Orwell:

'I arst you civil enough, didn't I?' said the old man, straightening his shoulders pugnaciously. 'You telling me you ain't got a pint mug in the 'ole bleeding boozer?'

'And what in hell's name is a pint?' said the barman, leaning forward with the tips of his fingers on the counter.

'Ark at 'im! Calls 'isself a barman and don't know what a pint is! Why, a pint's the 'alf of a quart, and there's four quarts to the gallon. 'Ave to teach you the A, B, C next.'

'Never heard of 'em,' said the barman shortly. 'Litre and half litre -- that's all we serve. There's the glasses on the shelf in front of you.

'I likes a pint,' persisted the old man. 'You could 'a drawed me off a pint easy enough. We didn't 'ave these bleeding litres when I was a young man.'


44 posted on 10/08/2013 10:28:58 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Everyone get online for Obamacare on 10/1. Overload the system and crash it hard!)
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To: posterchild

The govt. has more important things to worry about than pints of beer. Everyone I know who drink beer are only concerned about the glass being full, not how many ounces are in it..........sheesh


45 posted on 10/08/2013 10:32:33 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Ms. Muffett suffered from arachnophobia)
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To: KarlInOhio

I had forgotten that bit of dialog from 1984. Thanks, very appropriate to our times.


46 posted on 10/08/2013 10:33:50 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Pearls Before Swine
I had forgotten that bit of dialog from 1984. Thanks, very appropriate to our times.

I practically had the book memorized in high school and college. It was my "go to" book for just about any type of school essay if I could pick the topic freely. I don't know how many college application essays referred back to it, but I could knock out five pages on it in a couple of hours even without the tried and true method of submitting the same essay to a new class with just the class name changed on the cover page. I even had a couple of pages on the allegorical comparisons of Big Brother's, Hitler's and Stalin's mustaches.

And all that time I saw it as a warning, others like Obama saw it as an instruction manual.

47 posted on 10/08/2013 11:01:14 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Everyone get online for Obamacare on 10/1. Overload the system and crash it hard!)
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To: pallis
In the case of beer, it isn't the volume of the glass, but rather the shape that determines how much is liquid and how much is foam. For example, a wide schooner has a much greater head and less beer, while a narrow pilsner has less head and more beer. The difference is so great that when I showed a restaurant owner the yield per keg of various glasses he immediately called his glass vendor and ordered new glasses. He figured he could pay for the conversion in a few days.

As an aside, a jigger - shot - is supposed to be 1.5 ounces. You can get the line anywhere you want, but it is usual to be at an ounce. As a further aside, I knew a bartender that liked to play elf tricks on his customers. He had a jeweler drill a few tiny holes just at the top of the line on some shot glasses. Sitting at the bar, the holes were undetectable but standing they were obvious. He would present a shot with the holes so that as the glass was tipped a few drops would end up on the drinker's chin. Good fun for all.

48 posted on 10/08/2013 1:25:29 PM PDT by kitchen (Make plans and prepare. You'll never have trouble if you're ready for it. - TR)
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To: posterchild
The penalty is not strong enough. Anyone willing to cheat on beer is too morally degenerate to be allowed to live in our society. Cheat in marriage, yes, religion, OK, exceed the speed limit if you want to, palm an ace at poker but CHEAT AT BEER??!?

Impale them. And then fine them heavily.

49 posted on 10/08/2013 1:33:25 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill
Impale them. And then fine them heavily.

Impalement is too good. Harness each limb to three angry drunks and draw and quarter the offender!

50 posted on 10/08/2013 1:55:38 PM PDT by trubolotta
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