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Russian court bans Qur'an translation
The Guardian ^

Posted on 10/08/2013 1:13:21 PM PDT by kronos77

While Geert Wilders and assorted online provocateurs may like to talk about banning the Qur'an as an extremist text, few take the idea seriously. Except in Russia, perhaps, where on 20 September, a court in the Russian city of Novorossiysk banned a translation of the holy book of the world's 1.2 billion Muslims.

To be fair, it is one of several available in the country. This version, the work of an Azeri theologian named Elmir Kuliyev, was declared illegal for promoting extremism through "statements about the superiority of Muslims over non-Muslims"; "negative evaluation of persons who have nothing to do with the Muslim religion"; "positive evaluation of hostile actions by Muslims against non-Muslims", and also, it was argued, inciting violence.

Unsurprisingly, the ruling – which automatically places Kuliyev's Qur'an on a nationwide blacklist – outraged many Russian Muslims. Russia's influential Council of Muftis denounced the verdict, and Kuliyev has one month to appeal. The ban is baffling, as the Russian authorities have little to gain by antagonising 15% of the population, including huge chunks of the republics of Tatarstan and Bashkortostan, never mind the restive republics of the Caucasus. Could it just be a case of an incompetent court gone rogue? Perhaps, but another major Muslim organisation has endorsed the verdict. Geraldine Fagan, an expert on religion in Russia, reports that "a representative of the All-Russian Muftiate – a rival to the Council of Muftis – defended the ruling against Kuliyev's translation of the Qur'an … From a theological point of view, Farid Salman maintained, Kuliyev's works 'correspond with the views of the "Salafi" school, not with [the] Islam that is traditional for Muslims of Russia'."

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: islam; muslim; russia; terror

1 posted on 10/08/2013 1:13:21 PM PDT by kronos77
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To: kronos77

If Russia bans Islam , the entire world should follow it’s lead


2 posted on 10/08/2013 1:17:09 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: LeoWindhorse

Islam should be banned in every country.

Their whole plan is to destroy other nations from the inside and place their laws in effect.


3 posted on 10/08/2013 1:18:22 PM PDT by Venturer (Obamacare is a criminal act.)
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To: kronos77

As I understand it there is no such thing as a “translation” of the Koran. Only the Arabic version is holy.


4 posted on 10/08/2013 1:20:28 PM PDT by DManA (.)
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To: DManA
As I understand it there is no such thing as a “translation”
of the Koran. Only the Arabic version is holy.
same here...
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5 posted on 10/08/2013 1:24:12 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,$pend it all today;who can take your income & tax it all away..0'Blowfly can :-)
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To: kronos77
The ban is baffling

Only to idiot British Leftist reporters

So there is no 1st amendment in Russia....we think that's bad

But the Russians confront millions of Muslims on their southern flank who dream of the day when push North and take the fertile land from the hated Orthodox Slavs.

The bombs that went off in the baggage claim area of Domodedovo, the Beslan massacre, the Chechen Wars...words mean things to the Russians.

They don't have to worry about the ACLU stopping them from protecting themselves.

6 posted on 10/08/2013 1:25:01 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: kronos77

>> “statements about the superiority of Muslims over non-Muslims”

Wait - what? Did I just read that?


7 posted on 10/08/2013 1:26:58 PM PDT by QBFimi (When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen.)
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To: kronos77

Mixed thoughts about this one. Reading the Koran was certainly revealing to me about what a hateful and vile religion it is. Of course, some may read it and say “wow, I want to be a first class citizen and murder, rape and plunder my way to paradise.” It’s a tough call.


8 posted on 10/08/2013 1:30:45 PM PDT by trubolotta
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To: skinkinthegrass
Allah is not the God of Abraham.
9 posted on 10/08/2013 1:37:33 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: trubolotta

I don’t need to smell crap to know that it stinks.


10 posted on 10/08/2013 1:38:57 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: kronos77

The Russians are the only people on Earth who take a realistic approach to Islam.

Funny that we used to attack ‘em as the world’s premier exemplar of unrealistic government, a role now filled by Obama’s United States.

Live long enough, see everything.


11 posted on 10/08/2013 1:53:34 PM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: dfwgator
I don’t need to smell crap to know that it stinks.

When that opinion is turned against you, you may want to reconsider. Your perfume may be someone else's crap. If you want to ban anything, ban people sworn to live by that book. They are the threat.

12 posted on 10/08/2013 2:03:17 PM PDT by trubolotta
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
More accurate if your say: "The Allah of the Koran is not the God of Abraham."

Arabic-speaking Jews, like Arabic-speaking Christians, had been calling God "Allah" for hundreds of years before Mohammad was born --- not surprisingly, since it is simply the Arabic word for "God".

13 posted on 10/08/2013 2:35:38 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (What unites us all, of any age, gender, or religion, is that we all believe we are above average.)
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To: trubolotta
Mixed thoughts about this one. Reading the Koran was certainly revealing to me about what a hateful and vile religion it is. Of course, some may read it and say “wow, I want to be a first class citizen and murder, rape and plunder my way to paradise.” It’s a tough call.

In Russia, I imagine it's an easier call. Translated Korans are used primarily for recruitment. With a population that was raised primarily in an atheist culture, the people would be more vulnerable to the "sales pitch" and less likely to read it and see how horrific it is.

14 posted on 10/08/2013 2:49:18 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

It was explained to me that the name is Al-Lah, meaning, “the god”. My sister’s Persian friend says, “If the god is willing, I shall do thus and so”.


15 posted on 10/08/2013 2:51:23 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: Jack Hammer
The Russians are the only people on Earth who take a realistic approach to Islam.

Well, the Chinese do a good job too, but I prefer the Russian approach.

16 posted on 10/08/2013 3:00:28 PM PDT by ConradofMontferrat ( According to mudslimz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: TexasRepublic
Yes: "Al-lah" means "The" God, i.e. the Only God. The same term is expressed very similarly in Hebrew, a related Semitic language, as in "Elah Elahin," The God of gods. You can see the resemblance between "Allah" and "Elah"
17 posted on 10/08/2013 3:02:53 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (What unites us all, of any age, gender, or religion, is that we all believe we are above average.)
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To: Jack Hammer
Live long enough, see everything.

You got that right. Old, "cold warrior" here. If you told me back in the early '70's that I would ever agree with ANYTHING the Soviets said or did, I would punch your face and tell not to drink too much.

Now, I have seen the worm turn and I HAVE to admit, I really do admire Pooty Poot, and what Russia has become, and the way they hold fast to certain moral values, despite the barrage of criticism.

Man, whodda thunk it? Catches me by surprise.

18 posted on 10/08/2013 3:07:31 PM PDT by ConradofMontferrat ( According to mudslimz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: Charles Martel

Good point if the Koran is deliberately mistranslated, which I don’t put past Muslims to do. The “sales pitch” is going to be made with or without the Koran however. I remain undecided.


19 posted on 10/08/2013 3:09:54 PM PDT by trubolotta
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To: Jack Hammer

“The Russians are the only people on Earth who take a realistic approach to Islam.”


Well not really but I and many others would get arrested by our government were we to do what MUST be done. And MUST is not an exaggeration.

Somehow liberals think human civilization can survive with an aggressive and growing cancer being allowed unfettered assimilation of humans.


20 posted on 10/08/2013 3:29:43 PM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam! 969)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Thank you for your correction.


21 posted on 10/08/2013 4:02:12 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

You’re welcome.


22 posted on 10/08/2013 4:04:56 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (What unites us all, of any age, gender, or religion, is that we all believe we are above average.)
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To: ConradofMontferrat

Truman baby, here; echo that.


23 posted on 10/08/2013 6:23:50 PM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: LeoWindhorse
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24 posted on 10/08/2013 6:32:51 PM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (Swine Piss be upon the Sodmite Obama, and his Child-Rapist False Prophet Mohammed)
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To: Jack Hammer

Harry was a RATZ. OTH he had his stuff together.

A WWI arty guy. His men took one look at him and laughed. Then, when the going got tough, Harry with his hoot owl glasses put his battery into position and took on the worst. His men respected him. He might have LOOKED like a geek from some college, but the man had stones.

For a demoKaRatz, I did like him.

Go to WWII. He had the nutz to pull the trigger on the bomb, and told the whole world we were the top dog.

Guys in his old unit were NOT surprised that Harry pulled the trigger on Hirosima and Nagasaki.


25 posted on 10/08/2013 6:33:52 PM PDT by ConradofMontferrat ( According to mudslimz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: ConradofMontferrat

There’s been endless debate about whether or not we should have used the bomb.

I’ve never heard any such talk from the Pacific Marines who were slated to invade Kyushu.


26 posted on 10/08/2013 6:40:07 PM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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I’ve never heard any such talk from the Pacific Marines who were slated to invade Kyushu.

My dad is a pathetic commie pig union thug.

OTH, he was on an LSM, poised off the coast of Kyushu, and expecting to die in the first wave that he was going to do.

Leftist bung hole that he was, he cried and thanked God that Harry dropped those bombs.

Fast forward to 2005, shipboard reunion, Wright-Patterson AFB. I drove a car full of his shipmates to the museum. We checked in.

All those old codgers took off to the waayyy back of the hanger. I was at a loss. I had to run to catch up.

There, in the waayy back corner, was the BocksCar, in all its glory, complete, still ready to fly.

All those old farts were rubbing their hands on the belly of that airplane, crying their eyes out. Enola Gay DID NOT end the war, BOCKSCAR did. You had to be there to understand.

27 posted on 10/08/2013 6:52:09 PM PDT by ConradofMontferrat ( According to mudslimz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: ConradofMontferrat

“My dad is a pathetic commie pig union thug.”

Sorry to hear that.

On the other hand, some moments make up for an entire lifetime of nasty crap, and, personally, I’d give every guy who fought so that I wouldn’t be raised speaking Japanese (or German) a pass on pretty much everything else.


28 posted on 10/08/2013 7:11:21 PM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: kronos77

Translation of the unholy book should never be banned. The entire world should know of the depravity contained within.


29 posted on 10/12/2013 10:23:51 AM PDT by Red White and Blue patriot
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