Skip to comments.Manchin Shows First Crack in Democratic Front on Debt Limit
Posted on 10/08/2013 3:16:35 PM PDT by Red Steel
Sen. Joe Manchin III said Tuesday that Democrats should negotiate a debt deal as part of the debt limit increase a break from Democratic leaders and President Barack Obama.
The West Virginia Democrat said he personally is looking for a bigger plan to reduce the debt as part of the discussion to authorize payment of the governments bills.
Manchin talked to a group of reporters before Democrats weekly luncheon Tuesday and said he supports using the debt limit debate as a vehicle to attach deficit reduction, such as the Bowles-Simpson plan Democratic leaders and the president have vowed not to negotiate any concessions to the GOP under threat of a default. Manchin would not say whether this meant he would join the GOP in filibustering debate over a straight-up extension of the debt limit that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., planned to introduce Tuesday.
Im looking for a bigger plan. Im worried about my children and grandchildren and it seems like here all were worried about is how we get to our next crisis, Manchin said. People may be talking about no negotiation. Youve got to negotiate. Thats what were here to do.
When pressed on whether he thought it was a mistake for Reid to push forward with a clean debt limit bill, which could be voted on as early as this week, Manchin would not say.
Im not going to say what is going to be a mistake, [but] Ive never seen anything thats been a big hit around here, Manchin said.
After Tuesdays lunch, the West Virginia Democrat did not clarify or change his position, though Democrats did discuss a clean debt ceiling bill strategy Manchin claimed to have never heard of previously.
Democratic leadership aides have said they believe their bosses can hold all 54 members of their caucus on a procedural vote to consider the clean debt limit bill, just like they did in repeated votes on bills from House Republicans leading up to and since the shutdown Oct. 1. And as we reported Monday, several Republicans are poised to break with their party to support opening up debate on the bill to avert a government default.
But Manchins comments and the potential actions they belie do not constitute the first problem for leaders from the West Virginians outsized and oft-expressed shoot-from-the-hip opinions. And it most likely wont be the last.
A little bit of coal policy payback?
It is near certain there are more. Dingy Harry would be bringing bills to the floor if he had the votes
Democrat senators are like lots of queers. They fear coming out of the closet
Not to mention a lot of them are packers.
People in WV love socialism but for some unexplained reason balked at Gore, Kerry, and Obama.
Good explanation about the what it means to default versus not paying the interest on US bonds.
Certainly sounds intelligent...
Please this dummy said he would vote for the 1 year delay and didnt
Perhaps he is negotiating for an end to the EPA coal regs
Well...we have an honorable Democrat in West Virginia? I’ve been wondering where our honorable Democrats were.
No deals. Surrender first. It’s a trap.
he just wants to appear patriotic and conservative once in a blue moon to make his West Virginians content.....
keep your eye on the prize.