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Defying government shutdown, national park visitors play ‘catch me if you can’
Christian Science Monitor ^ | 10-8-13 | Patrick Jonsson

Posted on 10/08/2013 6:15:58 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat

With the US government shutdown well into its second week, growing numbers of Americans are gleefully engaging in what they call “civil disobedience” by tossing aside cones or jumping over government shutdown-inspired barricades around national monuments, malls, and park entrances.

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Yet the barricaded federal lands issue has particularly focused on whether it’s really necessary to close off public lands that aren’t regularly patrolled, that are leased to private entities, or are simply open-air monuments without pay gates. For some areas, millions of dollars in tourism revenue is at stake.

“We’ve gone from ‘this land is your land, this land is my land,’ to the government saying this land is its land,” writes University of Tennessee law professor Glenn Reynolds in an e-mail. “President Obama said that government is just a word for the things we do together. Apparently that includes kicking WWII veterans off their memorial.”

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One area where the government seems to have the clear right to put up barricades or “closed” signs is where there are pay gates to enter an area. But for parks and monuments where people can simply wander onto federal lands, blocking access touches on a “a huge [legal] gray area,” says Dale Goble, a land policy expert who specializes in the sagebrush rebellions of the West.

One issue that remains unclear is the legal foundation for those closure protocols, including what authority rangers have to either remove “trespassers” or even ticket and arrest them. If the rangers don’t have that power, then many of the barricaded areas are, by default, still open to the public.

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1 posted on 10/08/2013 6:15:58 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat
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To: RKBA Democrat

what we need to do is toss out the head conehead in the WH


2 posted on 10/08/2013 6:18:10 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: RKBA Democrat

The National Parks belong to the American people. Not some dumbass from Kenya sitting in the White Hut.


3 posted on 10/08/2013 6:18:59 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The DemocRAT Pahtay! Spending our grandchildren's future, today!)
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To: RKBA Democrat

I can imagine what the MSM would be saying if Bush did the same thing.


4 posted on 10/08/2013 6:21:10 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

“The National Parks belong to the American people.”

You’re right. And like any property we own, we should visit it and make sure it’s being taken care of properly. Especially during these difficult times.


5 posted on 10/08/2013 6:21:40 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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To: RKBA Democrat

“....Americans are gleefully engaging in what they call “civil disobedience”

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Until one of the federal agents loses his temper and pulls a gun....


6 posted on 10/08/2013 6:21:49 PM PDT by 353FMG ( I don't say whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: RKBA Democrat

Wouldn’t surprise me in the least if the Indonesian-in-Chief issued a “shoot on sight” order.

There’s no one as dangerous as an ego-challenged psychopath with power.


7 posted on 10/08/2013 6:27:30 PM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: RKBA Democrat

Only one way to respond to Obama’s goons:
Massive civil disobedience.

Surely the authorities will protect us as they did the OWS punks? Oh, wait. It’s those same authorities doing this to us.


8 posted on 10/08/2013 6:27:46 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: 353FMG
Until one of the federal agents loses his temper and pulls a gun....

That works both ways.

/johnny

9 posted on 10/08/2013 6:27:54 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: RKBA Democrat

undocumented visitors.

No American is ILLEGAL in a park...


10 posted on 10/08/2013 6:29:00 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: RKBA Democrat
You know what the president wants. Give 'em a full cavity search, the roto-rooter, make it hurt.
11 posted on 10/08/2013 6:29:10 PM PDT by JPG (Putin Does Obama.)
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To: RKBA Democrat

Yobama’s Barrycades are as useless as Yobama’s promises.


12 posted on 10/08/2013 6:29:29 PM PDT by Dapper 26
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To: bigheadfred
what we need to do is toss out the head conehead in the WH

Actually, we need to move into the public lands in the thousands and thousands. Too many to be fined or jailed.

13 posted on 10/08/2013 6:30:12 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

And that will be the shot heard around the world in the 21st century.


14 posted on 10/08/2013 6:31:01 PM PDT by 353FMG ( I don't say whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

And that will be the shot heard around the world in the 21st century.


15 posted on 10/08/2013 6:31:47 PM PDT by 353FMG ( I don't say whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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16 posted on 10/08/2013 6:31:58 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: bigheadfred
Here Here Huzzam and AMEN!





While barry prefers the CONE...his future requires a somewhat different sort of headgear


17 posted on 10/08/2013 6:32:44 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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To: RKBA Democrat

Until you confront an eco-fascist NPS agent in a dark parking lot with nobody around, you have no idea what a bunch of bed-wetters these gutless pricks are.


18 posted on 10/08/2013 6:34:01 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: RKBA Democrat

Bambi may have bitten off more than he can chew. Americans are very dedicated to their parks and monuments.

Not being an American, he wouldn’t understand.


19 posted on 10/08/2013 6:37:55 PM PDT by livius
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To: JRandomFreeper
Some friends and I are heading to the Natural Bridge State Park and Red River Gorge National Recreation Area this weekend. The Bridge is still open, but parts of the Gorge are closed, but I plan on checking it out.

As the Gorge has a sizable black bear population (one of my sister's coworkers was mauled a few years back), I always carry my 1911 with me. A .45ACP is questionable against a grizz, but it will do a blackie just fine.

20 posted on 10/08/2013 6:38:29 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (I aim to misbehave.)
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