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Defying government shutdown, national park visitors play ‘catch me if you can’
Christian Science Monitor ^ | 10-8-13 | Patrick Jonsson

Posted on 10/08/2013 6:15:58 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat

With the US government shutdown well into its second week, growing numbers of Americans are gleefully engaging in what they call “civil disobedience” by tossing aside cones or jumping over government shutdown-inspired barricades around national monuments, malls, and park entrances.

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Yet the barricaded federal lands issue has particularly focused on whether it’s really necessary to close off public lands that aren’t regularly patrolled, that are leased to private entities, or are simply open-air monuments without pay gates. For some areas, millions of dollars in tourism revenue is at stake.

“We’ve gone from ‘this land is your land, this land is my land,’ to the government saying this land is its land,” writes University of Tennessee law professor Glenn Reynolds in an e-mail. “President Obama said that government is just a word for the things we do together. Apparently that includes kicking WWII veterans off their memorial.”

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One area where the government seems to have the clear right to put up barricades or “closed” signs is where there are pay gates to enter an area. But for parks and monuments where people can simply wander onto federal lands, blocking access touches on a “a huge [legal] gray area,” says Dale Goble, a land policy expert who specializes in the sagebrush rebellions of the West.

One issue that remains unclear is the legal foundation for those closure protocols, including what authority rangers have to either remove “trespassers” or even ticket and arrest them. If the rangers don’t have that power, then many of the barricaded areas are, by default, still open to the public.

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To: UCANSEE2; kstewskis

Ping to post 16, K!


51 posted on 10/08/2013 10:04:50 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: KittenClaws

I was law-enforcement commissioned with the NPS, but did not want to be a full-time jackboot. I just carried my sidearm in my backpack most of the time. Even 25+ years ago when the gun-carrying goons were first coming out in the parks, there were some scary thugs around. And, of course now, it’s way worse.


52 posted on 10/08/2013 10:10:25 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: RKBA Democrat

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2013/10/memo-to-gop-if-obama-wont-compromise-dont-raise-the-debt-ceiling.php


53 posted on 10/08/2013 10:11:32 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: RKBA Democrat

54 posted on 10/08/2013 11:02:47 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Trteamer
That’s going to happen this weekend in Colorado. It’s called elk season....

During elk season the mantra "don't mess with Texas" applies in Colorado. Tell a group of Texas hunters the land is closed. The ranger will be gutted and strapped to the hood of the Suburban.

55 posted on 10/09/2013 5:59:22 AM PDT by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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To: Trteamer
That’s going to happen this weekend in Colorado. It’s called elk season....

I wonder if the Feds are out escorting the open range cattle off of Federal grazing lands.

56 posted on 10/09/2013 6:20:36 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Salamander

I may yet fire Up Adobe Flash and Adobe photoshop to add the fly to my barry portrait..


57 posted on 10/09/2013 6:43:59 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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To: nomobs

Maybe, we should declare the southern border to be a WWII memorial.


58 posted on 10/09/2013 7:03:03 AM PDT by bkaycee (John 3:16)
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To: 353FMG
“....Americans are gleefully engaging in what they call “civil disobedience”

Until one of the federal agents loses his temper and pulls a gun....

So how far are we really from this...


59 posted on 10/09/2013 7:32:57 AM PDT by Peet (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: pax_et_bonum

You are correct.


60 posted on 10/09/2013 11:38:40 AM PDT by bigheadfred (INFIDEL)
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To: 353FMG

Make sure it’s on video.
People need to see the fascism in order for something to be done about it.


61 posted on 10/09/2013 11:40:33 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: JPG

“Don’t stop until you reach the back of their teeth!”


62 posted on 10/09/2013 12:57:18 PM PDT by mbennett203 ("Bulrog, a tough brute ninja who has dedicated his life to eradicating the world from hippies.")
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