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Oneida Nation, D.C.ís Norton Urge Redskins to Change Their Name
georgetowner.com ^ | October 07, 2013

Posted on 10/08/2013 6:38:19 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

The Oneida Indian Nation held a “Change the Mascot” symposium at the Georgetown Ritz-Carlton Oct. 7. The discussion was held in a packed Fahrenheit restaurant. At the same time, the same hotel is also hosting the NFL’s fall league meeting of owners and officials, which begins tomorrow.

Speakers included Ray Halbritter, the National Representative of the Oneida Indian Nation, D.C.’s Delegate Eleanor Holmes Norton and Rep. Betty McCollum, D-Minn.

“Washington’s team name is a painful epithet that was used against my people when we were held at gunpoint and thrown off our lands,” Halbritter said. “When marketed by a professional sports team, it is a word that tells Native American children they are to be denigrated.”

Halbritter also cited President Barack Obama’s comments over the weekend that appeared to support changing the name of the Washington Redskins. “It elevated the visibility” of the Oneida Nation’s cause, Halbritter said.

In a fiery speech, Del. Norton said, “Dan Snyder tried four times to trademark the name (Redskins) and failed. The name should go down in the dust bowl of history.” Norton went on to say that under previous ownership the “team was forced to integrate itself” and did so “only because they were playing on Federal land.” She added, “Snyder should not wait to be compelled to do the right thing.”

Rep. McCollum said that when “Washington comes to play in Minnesota on Nov. 7,” the team will be “met with a large presence and our name change mascot.”

Those on the panel also included psychologist Michael Friedman, David Borgstrom, president of the Cooperstown, N.Y., school board, and two students from Cooperstown, who led the effort to change the school's mascot from "Redskins" to "Hawkeyes."

Some NFL officials were invited to the discussion, but none attended.


TOPICS: US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: americanindians; bettymccollum; eleanorholmesnorton; mascot; minnesota; nfl; redskins; washingtonblackskins
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1 posted on 10/08/2013 6:38:19 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Freedoms just keep eroding.


2 posted on 10/08/2013 6:40:50 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Oh no, not this crap again.
I suppose this Indian name crap HAS to resurface every once in a while, like locust.
3 posted on 10/08/2013 6:40:54 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Speakers included Ray Halbritter, the National Representative of the Oneida Indian Nation, D.C.’s Delegate Eleanor Holmes Norton and Rep. Betty McCollum, D-Minn.

Politicians "of color". What happened to Princess High Cheekbones? Too busy trying to come up with new ways to steal the American people's money in the Senate?

4 posted on 10/08/2013 6:42:22 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The DemocRAT Pahtay! Spending our grandchildren's future, today!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

They want $$$$$$$ not a name change.


5 posted on 10/08/2013 6:42:45 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Other names that should be changed:

NY Giants - Offensive to giant people

Pittsburgh Pirates - Offensive to pirates.

Minnesota Twins - Offensive to twins.


6 posted on 10/08/2013 6:46:18 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (What do we want? Time travel. When do we want it? It's irrelevant.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

So, a big protest will greet the Redskins when they go to Minnesota to play the Vikings??

Are they also going to protest the Viking nickname? The Vikings were cruel invaders weren’t they? Isn’t that name offensive to the Viking peoples?

What about Pittsburgh Steelers? Offensive to real steelworkers?

Boston Celtics and Notre Dame Fighting Irish? Offensive to those of Celtic and Irish descent?

Dallas Cowboys, offensive to real cowboys?

San Diego Padres and New Orleans Saints, offensive to Catholics???

Why aren’t they also after the Kansas Cith Chiefs, Cleveland Indians, and Atlanta Braves??? Why just the Washington Redskins???


7 posted on 10/08/2013 6:47:22 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (C)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I hate PC.


8 posted on 10/08/2013 6:47:53 PM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Veteran, 70-71)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
NY Giants - Offensive to giant people

Heck this year's Giants are offensive to football.

9 posted on 10/08/2013 6:47:56 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Tailgunner Joe

How about changing the name to the Washington Oneidas?


10 posted on 10/08/2013 6:48:03 PM PDT by From The Deer Stand
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

And all of the animal nicknames are offensive to various animal species.

Are the descendents of Buffalo Bill Cody offended by the Buffalo Bills?

You can take just about any sports name and find some reason why someone is supposed to be offended.


11 posted on 10/08/2013 6:49:22 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (C)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Detroit Lions — generally offensive to football fans...


12 posted on 10/08/2013 6:49:35 PM PDT by DJ Frisat ((optional, printed after my name on post))
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To: Tailgunner Joe

“The Oneida Indian Nation”

Isn’t that the tribe that made a name for themselves a few years back selling tax free cigarettes over the internet?


13 posted on 10/08/2013 6:49:46 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (NRA)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Let’s have the Washington Gangstas. The mascot can be BO dressed up as a drug dealer or a pimp.


14 posted on 10/08/2013 6:50:38 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. New US economy: Fascism on top, Socialism on the bottom.)
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To: dfwgator

New England Patriots is offensive because liberals detest feelings of patriotism. That name has to go also.


15 posted on 10/08/2013 6:50:38 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (C)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Why aren’t they also after the Kansas Cith Chiefs, Cleveland Indians, and Atlanta Braves??? Why just the Washington Redskins???

They probably have gone after them at one time or another. Right now, it is the Redskins. You forgot to mention my Blackhawks. The PC crowd has talked about them too.

16 posted on 10/08/2013 6:51:45 PM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Veteran, 70-71)
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To: Mark17

“I hate PC.”

I like what Dennis Prager says about PC. “Don’t call it PC. It is Leftism. You never see this coming from the Right”.


17 posted on 10/08/2013 6:52:47 PM PDT by willk
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To: EagleUSA

Yes our freedoms do erode.

This subject resurfaces every so often. People can debate and discuss, however, how in the sam hill is it the place of liberal politicians to have any say in the name of a sports team???? Why are so many, including the president, suddenly eager to talk about Indian nicknames of sports teams as some pressing national issue?????


18 posted on 10/08/2013 6:53:15 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (C)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Hubby said, How about the Washington Casino Owners?


19 posted on 10/08/2013 6:54:33 PM PDT by lysie
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Washington’s team name is a painful epithet

Washington itself is named after George Washington. I believe they should change that name. Imagine the insult that this represents for one of the most corrupt cities in the world to be named after one of the greatest and most honorable Americans in history.

Would you name a cesspool after our greatest hero?

20 posted on 10/08/2013 6:58:15 PM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: Mark17

And what about Cleveland Browns??? Offensive to brown skinned peoples???

Golden State Warriors has got to go.

Sacramento Kings and LA Kings are offensive to royalty everywhere.

Chicago White Sox is racist. Praising something white??? Can’t have that.


21 posted on 10/08/2013 6:58:32 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (C)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Halbritter is looking out for his Turning Stone Casino in Oneida NY,


22 posted on 10/08/2013 6:59:12 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Washington Whore (For those who go down for a price).


23 posted on 10/08/2013 7:00:12 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (When His Arrogance talks out of his a$$, Harry Reid's lips move.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe


"I'd really like to talk to you about the Colts and the Broncos..."
24 posted on 10/08/2013 7:00:20 PM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (The emperor < still > has no pedigree.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Washington Whores (For those who go down for a price).


25 posted on 10/08/2013 7:00:38 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (When His Arrogance talks out of his a$$, Harry Reid's lips move.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

OK. That’s it. No more silverware from them. I mean it, I’m done.


26 posted on 10/08/2013 7:01:38 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: oldbrowser

Don’t laugh too much about changing the name of Washington.

A number of years ago, New Orleans changed the name of George Washington School. Since he owned slaves, and New Orleans has a mostly black student population, it was decided that it hurt the self esteem of black students to attend George Washington School. It was renamed after an historic African king, which presumeably helped the student self esteem, as they are black and the African king was black.

No word though on whether student achievement improved at the renamed school.


27 posted on 10/08/2013 7:02:43 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (C)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I’m offended by the Twin Arrows Indian Casino blocking the view of the SACRED San Francisco Peaks in Flagstaff. It’s time to tear that unsacred eyesore down.


28 posted on 10/08/2013 7:04:13 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The DemocRAT Pahtay! Spending our grandchildren's future, today!)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Can’t have that.

Yep, I hear ya.

29 posted on 10/08/2013 7:05:27 PM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Veteran, 70-71)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

The word “cracker” is offensive to white people. It should be replaced with “saltine”.


30 posted on 10/08/2013 7:19:34 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Syracuse ORANGEMEN
Us Southern Ireland descendants are considered ‘Green’.

The GREEN movement -
Irish should ‘resent’ being associated with a bunch of Radicals.

PADDY WAGON -
Suggests that the Jail transport is full of Irishmen.

IRISH PENNANT
Suggests Irish are unkempt.

SPENDS LIKE A DRUNKEN SAILOR
Suggest Pols once had a Legitimate, Glamorous life or job.


31 posted on 10/08/2013 7:21:03 PM PDT by xrmusn (6/98 --Egoist:A person of low taste, more interested in himself than me. (Ambrose Bierce))
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To: xrmusn

Mascot and name changed to just Orange in 2004. So now we beat up a fruit Saturday.


32 posted on 10/08/2013 7:25:43 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Eleanor Holmes Norton , one of the biggest pieces of scum in the Nations Capitol, A racist through and through, and she ugleeeeey too.


33 posted on 10/08/2013 7:27:17 PM PDT by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

For most of history, having a reputation as brave warriors would have been deemed a compliment, not an insult. This is all so silly.


34 posted on 10/08/2013 7:54:55 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: From The Deer Stand

- Washington Barackskins


35 posted on 10/08/2013 8:07:12 PM PDT by devolve (----- ----- ----- ----- shall not infringe upon my smoking MacBook PRO ----- ----- ----- -----)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

New suggested names for the Washington Redskins:

* Washington Whimps”

* Washington Wusses”

* Washington Deadskins” (that’s already a bad season name)

* Washington Surrenderers”

* Washington Foreskins” - Hey, Jews like football too!

How about a boycott of the Oneida Nation casinos? Would put them out of business in a month. Then back on the big whiteman’s dole from Washington, DC. No more taxpayers’ wampum. Let them eat jerky for being such jerks.


36 posted on 10/08/2013 8:10:08 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

Mascot and name changed to just Orange in 2004
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Was aware etc...
Been ‘following’ The ‘Cuse since late 50’s when Jim Brown carried the load at the Cotton Bowl followed by Ernie Davis (both #44) and a young running back named #88 (John Mackey) as Swartz said he was as good as Brown and Davis and twice as good as either on...OR is that another ‘Urban Legend’?

Just following the Rush lead of being absurd to show absurdity OR the Govt lead of if there is NO problem, just create it - enough people will follow along and they don’t let ‘facts’ get in the way of a good tale


37 posted on 10/08/2013 8:11:11 PM PDT by xrmusn (6/98 --Egoist:A person of low taste, more interested in himself than me. (Ambrose Bierce))
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
New suggested names for the Washington Redskins:

Per IowaHawk: The Sh1tville Redskins.

38 posted on 10/08/2013 8:25:00 PM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (Proportionally, Ft. Hood is to Ft. Worth as Washington Navy Yard is to Arlington, VA.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

What does Elizabeth Warren say?


39 posted on 10/08/2013 8:27:28 PM PDT by jch10 ("Normandy was closed when we got there too!")
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To: Tailgunner Joe

“a painful epithet that was used against my people when we were held at gunpoint and thrown off our lands,”

I had no idea the Native Americans experienced a government shutdown also. I wonder if we could get a professional sports team called “the teabaggers”. History does repeat itself. Lol


40 posted on 10/08/2013 8:31:53 PM PDT by Toespi
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I had no idea the Native Americans experienced a government shutdown also.
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And they were hauled off to reeducation camps..would have made the Commissars proud.....

The forerunner to such great lines as...

“When it comes to Illegal Immigration, ask the American Indians how that worked out”?

Picture of Pilgrims debarking at Plymouth Rock and one Indian turns to the other and says “There goes the neighborhood”.

And one of the ‘greats’..

“We are from the Government and here to help you”.


41 posted on 10/08/2013 8:39:20 PM PDT by xrmusn (6/98 --Egoist:A person of low taste, more interested in himself than me. (Ambrose Bierce))
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To: Tailgunner Joe

They should change the Washington Redskins to a name that does not bring despicable and negative associations:

“The Redskins”


42 posted on 10/08/2013 8:47:48 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Cruz Control 2016!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

How about the “global warming deniers”.

That’s really scary. OR...

The large capacity “Clips” Extra scary.


43 posted on 10/08/2013 8:50:20 PM PDT by logitech (It is time.)
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To: Atlas Sneezed
They should change the Washington Redskins to a name that does not bring despicable and negative associations:

“The Redskins”

We have a winner!

44 posted on 10/08/2013 9:03:13 PM PDT by marron
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Never give in to the professionally outraged.

Permanent outrage is at full volume all the time, whatever happens. It is never appeased by anything you do. Even full surrender doesn’t satisfy it, it just moves on in search of another host upon which to feed.

Tune it out. Smile and go about your business.


45 posted on 10/08/2013 9:06:36 PM PDT by marron
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Can these folks get Obama to change his name back to Barry Soreto?

The name Barack Obama offends me.


46 posted on 10/08/2013 9:16:57 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

47 posted on 10/08/2013 9:32:34 PM PDT by garjog (Obama: making the world safe for Sharia.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Why just the Washington Redskins???

Because it contains the word "skin", preceded by a color. It's easy to convince the sheep it's racist. And they know damn well that PC metrosexual sports consumer types won't lift a finger to learn the actual history of the term.

They're going to win this battle. The Redskins will eventually acquiesce.

48 posted on 10/08/2013 9:44:08 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (If you don't stand up, you don't stand a chance.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Maybe they should change their name to the "Washington Ratskins".    That sounds vaguely similar to "Redskins" (for traditionalists), and at the same time it instantly brings to mind the politicians who infest the city.

(No offense intended for genuine Redskins fans.)

A couple posts here have suggested that the "New York Giants" should also have to change their name, as they offend "giants" everywhere, and I would just like to add that their name also offends "little people", who are excluded and discriminated against from their current name.

49 posted on 10/08/2013 9:56:37 PM PDT by Heart-Rest (Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. Gal 6:7)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Why are so many, including the president, suddenly eager to talk about Indian nicknames of sports teams as some pressing national issue?????

:::::::::

Minority votes. That is all it has EVER been about.


50 posted on 10/09/2013 7:35:49 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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