Skip to comments.For the families of four U.S. soldiers
Posted on 10/08/2013 8:22:59 PM PDT by Rabin
The Pentagon says it is not allowed to pay these families a death gratuity, so long as the shutdown continues. The same goes for the family of a Marine who died in Afghanistan on Saturday and any others who die during the budget impasse.
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0ba thinks our fighting Americans and their families and loved ones, are all muz.
Rab feels utter disgust.
I really don’t understand why Conservative Americans are not protesting in the street and demanding better from their government.
This will come back to bit our Dear Leader and his party in the ass.
Who is ordering this behavior? Didn’t Congress pass a CR to find the military?
Because they are conservative and would rather do things via the ballet box. However, conservatives are reaching their civil limit ... especially with Obama’s disrespectful treatment of military vets.
Those quoted from the Pentagon are LIARS!!!
The dead don’t vote. (except in Chicago).
Old veterans will be gone soon so their vote is not needed.
Illegals got a permit to march on the national mall today.
They should get those soldiers out of those useless world trouble spots to begin with. The American people are so uninformed it is really pitiful.
No it won’t, the Amerikan “people” still believe in themselves and in Obama.
I pray it bits them real hard. If this hasn’t woke the people up, I’m afraid nothing will :(
>”via the ballet box”<
Most Conservatives I know aren’t into “Ballet”. Ballads, Ballots and Bullets, but not “Ballet”.
Just funning you my FRiend.
Meanwhile, our Dear Leader hasn’t yet decided whether to cut off Egyptian aid or not. Isn’t that special?
Military partners in sodomy still collecting benefits?
Gees, out of 200,456,245 post and I get one word wrong ... sheez!
Good catch. LOL!
By the way, diplomatic way to avoid being labeled a spelling nazi. LOL!
PLEASE Read the bill for yourselves and decide:
One Hundred Thirteenth Congress
United States of America
AT THE FIRST SESSION
Begun and held at the City of Washington on Thursday,
the third day of January, two thousand and thirteen
Making continuing appropriations for military pay in the event of a Government shutdown.
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
This Act may be cited as the `Pay Our Military Act’.
SEC. 2. CONTINUING APPROPRIATIONS FOR MEMBERS OF THE ARMED FORCES.
(a) In General- There are hereby appropriated for fiscal year 2014, out of any money in the Treasury not otherwise appropriated, for any period during which interim or full-year appropriations for fiscal year 2014 are not in effect—
(1) such sums as are necessary to provide pay and allowances to members of the Armed Forces (as defined in section 101(a)(4) of title 10, United States Code), including reserve components thereof, who perform active service during such period;
(2) such sums as are necessary to provide pay and allowances to the civilian personnel of the Department of Defense (and the Department of Homeland Security in the case of the Coast Guard) whom the Secretary concerned determines are providing support to members of the Armed Forces described in paragraph (1); and
(3) such sums as are necessary to provide pay and allowances to contractors of the Department of Defense (and the Department of Homeland Security in the case of the Coast Guard) whom the Secretary concerned determines are providing support to members of the Armed Forces described in paragraph (1).
(b) Secretary Concerned Defined- In this section, the term `Secretary concerned’ means—
(1) the Secretary of Defense with respect to matters concerning the Department of Defense; and
(2) the Secretary of Homeland Security with respect to matters concerning the Coast Guard.
SEC. 3. TERMINATION.
Appropriations and funds made available and authority granted pursuant to this Act shall be available until whichever of the following first occurs: (1) the enactment into law of an appropriation (including a continuing appropriation) for any purpose for which amounts are made available in section 2; (2) the enactment into law of the applicable regular or continuing appropriations resolution or other Act without any appropriation for such purpose; or (3) January 1, 2015.
Speaker of the House of Representatives.
Vice President of the United States and
President of the Senate.
This was passed and signed into law by President Obama BEFORE the shutdown. SecDef Hagel illegally furloughed civilian DoD employees who support the active duty military. By definition, pretty much ALL DoD employees serve the active duty folks, so Hagel wasted millions in pay by not letting them work during the furlough period IN SPITE of the fact that they’ll get paid regardless.
Additionally, Hagel claims he can’t pay death benefits for fallen active duty members. Maybe his lawyers are playing some cockamamie game that “pay and allowances” doesn’t include death benefits. What a crock! This is what Speaker Boehner is talking about when he says Congress already authorized the death benefits!
SecDef Hagel is either inept, or he’s intentionally trying to create a political firestorm. He’s part of an administration that has a long record of ignoring and/or re-interpreting law to mean whatever they please. We are talking about a corrupt administration refuses to enforce immigration law and carves out exemptions for special interests. Now we’re expected to believe they simply CAN’T pay these death benefits???
Again, what a crock. SecDef Hagel is violating the clear intent of the law. This is not at all surprising given the Obama administration’s history, but Americans at least deserve to know the truth.
Please read post #16
Actually, death benefits and travel for the family of military memebers are paid out of VA funds not Defence funds. A CR will be introduced into Congress and passed today which authorizes VA to pay the families and provide transportation and related expenses to Dover AFB.
When I was in the death payment was from an insurance policy.
If you’re like me, Spell Check is either your best friend or your worst enemy.
Look at it this way, we may make a few typos now and then, but nobody here came up with the Obamacare Phone Number 1-800-FUCKYO... LOL
Thank you for the explanation. That absolves Secretary Hagel of intentionally withholding death benefits. However, it certainly doesn’t explain the civilian furlough. Hagel explains the bill didn’t allow him to recall all DoD civilians. Well, he’s very narrowly defining the bill when this is an administration that routinely flouts the law. Civilian employees who provide support to the the active duty military should cover just about everyone. Even those DoD employees who are international divisions still indirectly support our own military by serving its allies.
Like I wrote, this is an administration that routinely flouts the law. That’s one of the big issues with this whole budget battle in the first place. President Obama is carving out exemptions for all his buddies. He’s re-interpreting law to give him very, very broad discretion to do whatever he wants. Who has the political power to stop him? Apparently no one.
So then you have Secretary Hagel attempting to strictly define this pay act which clearly gives him broad discretion to pay civilian DoD employees who provide support to the active duty military. Why? I’m really interested in the official explanation if you know it.
Oh, one last thing. The media will likely blame the House Republicans for not funding the VA death benefits, but this bill was also passed by both the Senate and the president. Neither of them raised the point about VA benefits either, so blame should go all around on this one. House Republicans failed to include the benefits, and the Senate and president are clearly doing everything they can to create as much political pain/chaos as possible if they don’t get their way on everything, i.e. refuse to negotiate.
Attorneys are holding the money hostage. The money has been voted on to handle these things.
Obama is hateful.
Not according to Harry Reid. The Senate has not (and according to his denigration of the house proposal on the floor of the Senate today) will not allow the Senate to pass this act. Harry Reid is stopping our heros families from receiving the funds promised to them.