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Grand Canyon Cites People For Entering Closed Park
http://lasvegas.cbslocal.com/2013/10/08/grand-canyon-cites-people-for-entering-closed-park/ ^

Posted on 10/09/2013 3:07:47 AM PDT by kelly4c

TUSAYAN, Ariz. (AP) — Nearly two dozen people have been issued citations for entering Grand Canyon National Park after a partial government shutdown forced its closure.

Grand Canyon Chief Ranger Bill Wright says some people have been caught at the South Rim, on trails, attempting rim-to-rim hikes or trying to sneak in through dirt roads.

All of the citations will be handled by the U.S. Attorney’s Office. Wright says each of the 21 citations issued as of Monday has a mandatory order to appear in federal court.

(Excerpt) Read more at lasvegas.cbslocal.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: bho44; grandcanyon; nationalparks; nps; shutdown
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The comments are most interesting. There are over a thousand. Citizens are pretty darn riled up.
1 posted on 10/09/2013 3:07:47 AM PDT by kelly4c
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To: kelly4c

Good, if it’s true. If I were closer I would go just to get cited. I want some AR armed thug to tote me off the land of We The People. Maybe next weekend I can at least find a closed park to hold a sign that says Mr Obeyme... Tear down this barricade! Or maybe I will get cited at a different park.


2 posted on 10/09/2013 3:11:39 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Back to West by G-d Virginia.)
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To: kelly4c

I get it that the rangers were confused the first day or so. But now, they should not be issuing citations, removing people, or maintaining barriers. The are OUR national parks, and not the president’s. “just following orders” is not acceptable in times of crisis.


3 posted on 10/09/2013 3:15:28 AM PDT by grania
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To: kelly4c

The feds are going to crucify every single person they cite to
send their message....the only one they want us to hear.

‘SHUT UP, SUBMIT OR PAY THE PRICE”

This has gone far beyond any peaceful resolution.
Blood will be shed, the only question left is whose
blood will it be and how much.

If we the people don’t fight back blood will still flow.
But it will be one sided as it usually is during government
sponsored pogroms.


5 posted on 10/09/2013 3:16:53 AM PDT by nvscanman
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To: momincombatboots

cannot help but wonder if they would shoot if given the order. They seem to have that mentality


6 posted on 10/09/2013 3:17:37 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: grania

I found that over the years the government employee trend to treat land owned by the people as land owned by themselves.


7 posted on 10/09/2013 3:20:20 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: goat granny

“Oh, how we burned in the camps ...”


8 posted on 10/09/2013 3:21:13 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (21st century. I'm not a fan.)
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To: kelly4c

Fedgov is behaving precisely like an occupying hostile military.


9 posted on 10/09/2013 3:22:19 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: kelly4c

If rangers are furloughed, then they should be home playing video games instead of handing out citations. If there are a few still on the job, then there’s surely more important duties they need to be doing.


10 posted on 10/09/2013 3:25:39 AM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: SpaceBar

They behave that way because that is exactly what they are.


11 posted on 10/09/2013 3:27:26 AM PDT by nvscanman
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To: kelly4c

So the brown shirts are blocking a state highway now because people are daring to move cones on overlooks so they can see their country. The State needs to start arresting the Feds and people need to show up in sufficient numbers to deter Obama’s goons from arresting them. Beyond that, if you are going to be ordered to Federal court if you are given a ticket, are the Feds drawing down on citizens to force identification and compliance on trails? How far will this go?


12 posted on 10/09/2013 3:27:29 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: nvscanman

Wait till the IRS is giving everyone a cavity search through the healthcare scam. A few park rangers with glocks will seem tame.


13 posted on 10/09/2013 3:27:56 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Truth29

Where are the sheriffs?


14 posted on 10/09/2013 3:29:06 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: kelly4c

I should be thanking God that my husband no longer flies Grand Canyon air tours. “Can” meet “whoop ass” on this in Arizona. Jan (I love her) Brewer, open carry to the grocery store, open carry a necessity to walk to the laundry (wildlife).... I hope these morons are planning their moves now because good luck continuing to live there.


15 posted on 10/09/2013 3:30:09 AM PDT by pops88 (Geek chick standing with Breitbart for truth)
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To: pops88

Grand Canyon village is a small town. Those I have talked to who still live there are convinced, to a person, this is the Tea Party’s fault.

But remember, the only radio station available in the park is NPR.

But I bet a lot of law-dogs are going to have to transfer.


16 posted on 10/09/2013 3:42:19 AM PDT by maine yankee (I got my Governor at 'Marden's')
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To: kelly4c

This land is your land, this land is .... nevermind.

I guess our land was annexed by the monarchy. Do not trespass on the King’s property.


17 posted on 10/09/2013 3:44:29 AM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: kelly4c

I have known many park rangers who were real Americans and decent people. I hope the number willing to follow a petty tyrant is very small.


18 posted on 10/09/2013 3:44:58 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: maine yankee

We didn’t live in the village, we lived in Valle. I did not know one person that would have put up with this...but then we didn’t live in the village, beholden to the park service.


19 posted on 10/09/2013 3:45:29 AM PDT by pops88 (Geek chick standing with Breitbart for truth)
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To: kelly4c

oh boy. The OGestapo will be after thee folks.


20 posted on 10/09/2013 3:45:36 AM PDT by Bobby_Taxpayer
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To: who knows what evil?

I think its time for the states to retake their lands or force the feds to pay taxes. Here in Michigan, state owned land pays local taxes.


21 posted on 10/09/2013 3:49:16 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: pops88

And let me add- I was carrying concealed every time I made the half hour plus trip to Safeway, a woman alone, through lots of park land, desolate areas. Gabby picked the wrong day and the wrong Safeway. People know OPSEC and who to share what with. The .gov, for all of it’s “intelligence” is dumb as a brick.


22 posted on 10/09/2013 3:50:32 AM PDT by pops88 (Geek chick standing with Breitbart for truth)
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To: kelly4c

Day 9 of the ‘War on Tourists’.


23 posted on 10/09/2013 3:51:56 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: kelly4c

If the Feds have decided to deny citizens access to parks we’ve paid for, why are we still sending them taxes? This would be equivalent to hiring someone to renovate your kitchen, who takes your money, demands more, then locks you out of your own house.

It’s time for the States to stop payment to the Feds.


24 posted on 10/09/2013 4:06:32 AM PDT by Flick Lives (The U.S. is dead to me.)
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To: maine yankee

Also remembered- those who actually lived “in the village” were pretty much viewed as sheeple/ gov borgs. They’d crossed over to the other side. Pretty small village considering what surrounds it.


25 posted on 10/09/2013 4:09:07 AM PDT by pops88 (Geek chick standing with Breitbart for truth)
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To: kelly4c

Do those citations come with a ribbon and a plaque???


26 posted on 10/09/2013 4:12:51 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: who knows what evil?
"Where are the sheriffs?"

Very good question. Is Fedzilla now so large and omnipresent that no state or official is willing to oppose them? (Although Governor Walker seems willing to keep open some state lands in Wisconsin, I read.)

27 posted on 10/09/2013 4:16:18 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: bgill

I agree with you-are they really working without pay?


28 posted on 10/09/2013 4:20:43 AM PDT by cavador (Stop the boats,Stop the boats,-we are drowning in boat people!)
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To: kelly4c

Need to go to washtington and spray some fire foam on them like public workers did so approvingly in Brussels.
Matt laugher NBC make me so sick.buick...


29 posted on 10/09/2013 4:21:53 AM PDT by Recompennation (Constitutional protection for all not just selectively for Democrats.)
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To: goat granny
"cannot help but wonder if they would shoot if given the order. They seem to have that mentality"

It's already been proven that they will à la Miriam Carey.

30 posted on 10/09/2013 4:24:05 AM PDT by fulltlt
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To: goat granny

You can stop wondering.

They would bust a cap in your ass in an instant.


31 posted on 10/09/2013 4:28:20 AM PDT by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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To: SpaceBar

Amen brother.


32 posted on 10/09/2013 4:29:36 AM PDT by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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To: bgill

I’m thinking that the working rangers are just really pissed that they’re not home playing video games like their co-workers and are taking their anger out on anybody they can. Make it hurt.


33 posted on 10/09/2013 4:33:43 AM PDT by LSAggie
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To: SpaceBar

Start suing every Fedgov person personally who harasses Americans over this pain politics for violating our civil rights. Its not trespassing; its conduct that is protected first amendment protest speech.


34 posted on 10/09/2013 4:40:19 AM PDT by Mechanicos (When did we amend the Constitution for a 2nd Federal Prohibition?)
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To: goat granny

Considering the fact that arguably the modern Democrat leadership is a successor of the Communist Party; if they resort officially to using violence or force against the people this law may kick in:

50 USC § 842 - Proscription of Communist Party, its successors, and subsidiary organizations

The Communist Party of the United States, or any successors of such party regardless of the assumed name, whose object or purpose is to overthrow the Government of the United States, or the government of any State, Territory, District, or possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein by force and violence, are not entitled to any of the rights, privileges, and immunities attendant upon legal bodies created under the jurisdiction of the laws of the United States or any political subdivision thereof; and whatever rights, privileges, and immunities which have heretofore been granted to said party or any subsidiary organization by reason of the laws of the United States or any political subdivision thereof, are terminated: Provided, however, That nothing in this section shall be construed as amending the Internal Security Act of 1950, as amended [50 U.S.C. 781 et seq.]


35 posted on 10/09/2013 4:45:10 AM PDT by Mechanicos (When did we amend the Constitution for a 2nd Federal Prohibition?)
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To: cripplecreek

“I think its time for the states to retake their lands or force the feds to pay taxes”.

If the feds were required to pay for land they have locked up, especially in the West, there would be an unbelievable land sale, as there aren’t enough printing presses to sustain the cost vs land value.

In some cases they do pay, but they are woefully late making those payments which are used to support schools where there are military bases using the local school facilities with those living on base not paying property taxes. There is a name for those payments that escapes me at the moment.

Regarding those who are now being cited for trespassing, it will be really interesting to sit in on the court proceedings when those cited attempt to make the “this is my land” case before an unsympathetic federal judge. I recently sat through a sentencing of a local doctor given a five year term in federal prison by a jury not of his peers. It was a railroad to prison IMHO, and the judge was only too typical in the long winded castigation of the doctor. The case involved tax issues in which other doctors on the same retirement plan have been exonerated.


36 posted on 10/09/2013 4:47:15 AM PDT by wita
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To: kelly4c

hey park people,
F you ya nazi’s


37 posted on 10/09/2013 4:50:08 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) ( Hey Rubio, eat pooh pal))
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To: Mechanicos

Being unfamiliar with that “Proscription of Communist Party” law you quoted above, I googled it. And there it is, just like you said.


38 posted on 10/09/2013 4:53:05 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: kelly4c

No citation for crossing a US border illegally...in fact those people are compensated...but cross a federal border and going Into a fed park (already OWNED by those crossing it) and they are or penalized? If we don’t start pushing back, then we deserve the loss of our country.


39 posted on 10/09/2013 4:57:14 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ( The Republican Party has become the White Flag Party-shamefully surrendering daily to Socialism.)
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To: goat granny
cannot help but wonder if they would shoot if given the order

Don't doubt it for a minute.

40 posted on 10/09/2013 5:17:03 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: kelly4c
Grand Canyon Chief Ranger Bill Wright

A big name for a little piss ant.

41 posted on 10/09/2013 5:19:34 AM PDT by silent_jonny (Luke 8:39)
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To: kelly4c

Each and everyone should ask for a jury trial. Then we will see what the people would say about this “illegal activity!”


42 posted on 10/09/2013 5:25:34 AM PDT by SES1066 (To expect courteous government is insanity!)
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To: kelly4c

The comments are good. But will they put their heads back in their anal sphincters next election and vote democrat?


43 posted on 10/09/2013 5:49:49 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: Pollster1
I have known many park rangers who were real Americans and decent people

Just shows:

  1. what they're really made of when the brown stuff hits the fan.
  2. And some people are easily deceived

44 posted on 10/09/2013 5:50:22 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Venturer

Time for talk is long past.


45 posted on 10/09/2013 5:56:07 AM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: Bullish
Paging Woody Guthrie...

This land is your land,
this land is my land....

I never dreamed that one day, I would be singing along with Comrade Woody Guthrie!

46 posted on 10/09/2013 6:07:23 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: kelly4c
Nearly two dozen people have been issued citations for entering Grand Canyon National Park after a partial government shutdown President Stompyfeet forced its closure.

Fixed.

47 posted on 10/09/2013 6:10:24 AM PDT by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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To: Bullish
DUmmie FUnnies 10-07-13 ("This Land's Not Your Land": DUmmies down with Obama's park shutdown)


THIS LAND'S NOT YOUR LAND
Tune: "This Land Is Your Land"
As sung by King Obama

This land's not your land, this land is my land
Shut down or open, it comes from my hand
From Barack Obama to the bitter clingers:
This land's not made for you to see

If you go driving an interstate highway
And see an orange cone, you'll do it my way
You will obey me and not go forward
This land's not made for you to see

This land's not your land, this land is my land
Shut down or open, it comes from my hand
From Barack Obama to the bitter clingers:
This land's not made for you to see

You'll want to travel and go to Mount Rushmore
But at Rapid City, you won't go much more
Guards will surround you, their voices sounding:
This land's not made for you to see

This land's not your land, this land is my land
Shut down or open, it comes from my hand
From Barack Obama to the bitter clingers:
This land's not made for you to see

If you oppose me, I'll make you suffer
Come near memorials, I'll put up a buffer
I am Obama, I am your land lord
This land's not made for you to see

This land's not your land, this land is my land
Shut down or open, it comes from my hand
From Barack Obama to the bitter clingers:
This land's not made for you to see

If you go looking, you'll see a sign there
And on the sign it says: "There's No Trespassing"
And on the other side: "No Looking or Nothing!"
Both sides were made for you to see

This land's not your land, this land is my land
Shut down or open, it comes from my hand
From Barack Obama to the bitter clingers:
This land's not made for you to see

At the Redwood Forest, in the land of the Canyons
By the Gulfstream Waters, you'll see my minions
As they stand there guarding, you'll stand there wond'ring:
Is this land safe for me to see?

This land's not your land, this land is my land
Shut down or open, it comes from my hand
From Barack Obama to the bitter clingers:
This land's not made for you to see

No one can stop me, my mind is made up
As I go putting my Barrycades up
Nobody living can make me give your land back
This land's not made for you to see

New voices:

But King Obama, this land is our land
So shut your piehole, you can go pound sand
From the bitter clingers to Barack Obama:
This land was founded to be free

This land ain't your land, this land is our land
So shut your piehole, you can go pound sand
From the bitter clingers to Barack Obama:
This land was founded to be free

48 posted on 10/09/2013 6:16:31 AM PDT by Charles Henrickson (The wag tailoring the doggerel)
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To: kelly4c

If no one pays the fine and they all demand a trial, it will shut down the federal court for years.


49 posted on 10/09/2013 6:23:04 AM PDT by usurper (Liberals GET OFF MY LAWN)
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To: grania

I think we have resolved the issue of “following orders” at Nuremberg


50 posted on 10/09/2013 6:23:44 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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