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Obamacare website looks "like nobody tested it," programmer says
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Posted on 10/09/2013 6:16:03 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

Obamacare website looks "like nobody tested it," programmer says

(CBS News) Healthcare.gov launched more than a week ago, and while millions of Americans have signed into the site, not many have been able to actually sign up for insurance because of glitches with the website.

Administration officials implementing the new health care law will be on the hot seat Wednesday as the House Oversight Committee hopes to find out what the problems were.

Committee Chairman Darrell Issa told CBS News' Jan Crawford that he plans to ask how the mess surrounding the website could even happen.

No one knows how many people have managed to enroll because the administration refuses to release those numbers, but the website's launch has been rocky.

Media outlets have struggled to find anyone who's actually been successful. The Washington Post even illustrated that sought-after person as a unicorn, and USA Today called the launch an "inexcusable mess" and a "nightmare."

White House officials initially blamed the problem on an unexpectedly high volume as they had more than 8 million hits in the first week, but after it went offline over the weekend for repairs, officials now acknowledge other problems.

"We've identified the glitches, we've added hardware, we're recoding software, and I can tell you today is better than yesterday, and we are hoping in the very near future to have a seamless process that's what we are aiming for," Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said.

However, computer experts say the website has major flaws.

"It wasn't designed well, it wasn't implemented well, and it looks like nobody tested it," said Luke Chung, an online database programmer.

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1 posted on 10/09/2013 6:16:03 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

You’d think the left would care they outsourced it to Canada. So much for their wanting to keep jobs in America.


2 posted on 10/09/2013 6:17:39 AM PDT by Qwackertoo (Going into Politic Free Zone Momma Grizzly hibernation for a while after this week, maybe forever.)
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To: Sub-Driver

There is nothing about his administration, since it’s takeover, that has met any sort of a road test. They are only about pulling things out of their asses as they go along.


3 posted on 10/09/2013 6:17:55 AM PDT by Gaffer
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It bugs me that the Obamanation is so sanguine about it all....spending billions of tax dollars to launch this beached whale is just a yawn to him. Sucker probably saw the "moon" in Moonlight Sonata, too (cackle).

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REFEERENCE--EXCERPTS A November 30, 2012 Cato.com report indicated the Insurance Exchanges will cost Twice What it Costs to Administer Medicare (NOT what he's told Americans).

ONE STATE'S LAUNCH COSTS Then in March 2013 CATO.COM reported "The Cost to Launch the California Health Insurance Exchange is $910 million".

So far (2012) California has received $910 million in federal grants to launch its new health insurance exchange under the Affordable Care Act ("Obamacare"). The California exchange, "Covered California," has so far awarded a $183 million contract to Accenture to build the website, enrollment, and eligibility system and another $174 million to operate the exchange for four years.

The state will also spend $250 million on a two-year marketing campaign. By comparison California Senator Barbara Boxer spent $28 million on her 2010 statewide reelection campaign while her challenger spent another $22 million.

The most recent installment of the $910 million in federal money was a $674 million grant. The exchange's executive director noted that was less than the $706 million he had asked for. "The feds reduced the 2014 potential payment for outreach and enrollment by about $30 million," he said. "But we think we have enough resources on hand to do the biggest outreach that I have ever seen."

For additional perspective....private insurance marketing site, Esurance sells not only health insurance but also things like homeowners and auto insurance across the country......putting my zip code into their system along with my age, they offered me 87 different health plans from all the big players in my area.

Now granted, the new health insurance exchanges are more complex because they have to interface with Medicaid and the IRS as well as calculate subsidies. But the order of magnitude difference in what it cost to launch esurance compared to the California exchange is pretty big.

Privately funded Esurance began its multi-product national web business in 1998 with an initial $5.5 million round of venture fund investment in 1999 and a second round of $34 million a few months later.

The start-up experience of other major web companies is also instructive. Facebook received $13.7 million to launch in 2005. eBay was founded in 1995 and received its first venture money in 1997––$6.7 million.

Even doubling these private investments for inflation still leaves quite a gap.

SOURCE http://www.cato.org/blog/californias-obamacare-exchange-costs-56-times-more-launch-facebook

4 posted on 10/09/2013 6:19:03 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Qwackertoo
You’d think the left would care they outsourced it to Canada.

Which hockey team designed the software?

5 posted on 10/09/2013 6:19:05 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree ( July 4, 1776: Declaration of Independence. Nov 6, 2012: Declaration of Dependence. R.I.P. America.)
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To: Sub-Driver

corrupt government thugs siphoned off the money and had some third rate outfit (maybe themselves, some “company” they quickly set up for the job) invent the web site


6 posted on 10/09/2013 6:19:06 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

Off-shored.


7 posted on 10/09/2013 6:21:10 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Sub-Driver

I write software for a living- this thing looks like it was programmed by government bureaucrats

oh wait...


8 posted on 10/09/2013 6:21:30 AM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: Sub-Driver

The natives are restless. Check out Healthcare.gov Facebook page for a few laughs.


9 posted on 10/09/2013 6:22:06 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: FReepers; Patriots; FRiends




We're not stupid here, but half the populace are!

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10 posted on 10/09/2013 6:22:37 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Mr. K
I write software for a living- this thing looks like it was programmed by government bureaucrats

oh wait...

Thankfully, it will be repaired by bureaucrats.

Oh wait...

11 posted on 10/09/2013 6:23:30 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Resolute Conservative

Politicized. The contract was almost certainly awarded to a DNC apparatchik that hired lesser Rats to implement the contract.

If you can find a programmer’s union you can find the developers. They were without doubt unionistas. The purpose of the contract was to reward the worthy, not to facilitate the Obamacare signups


12 posted on 10/09/2013 6:25:31 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: Qwackertoo

The outsourcing to Canada needs to be broadcasted far and wide.
Facebook - e-mails - local message boards
No one is talking about it.
(I post it every chance I get)


13 posted on 10/09/2013 6:25:39 AM PDT by libertarian27 (FreeRepublic Cookbooks 2011 & 2012 - Click Profile)
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To: Mr. K

So do it. I was thinking college interns. There certainly was no SCRUM, unit testing or load balancing done before launch. And the Q/A team would have already been fired where I work.

I can tell from the errors folks were sending me that it had little to do with heavy traffic. Who builds a web page that downloads 89 javascript files? Google doesn’t even do that. It’s almost like you had folks learning how to build web sites practice on healthcare.gov.

Gee, if only we could get these same guys to redo the irs.gov site...lol


14 posted on 10/09/2013 6:26:14 AM PDT by jimjohn
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To: Mr. K

That should read “So do I”


15 posted on 10/09/2013 6:28:05 AM PDT by jimjohn
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To: Sub-Driver

With all of the true believers who are still drooling over the prospect of “single-payer” health care, I cannot say this is a bad thing. The ineptitude on display here may penetrate some of their thick little skulls and make them realize that government-run health care will be nothing but a mess of red tape and inefficiency.

They have their little utopian fantasies of what government-run healthcare will be like. I can do nothing more than encourage them to read up on how government-controlled health care works in other countries—but all they do is read the fairy tell stories cherry-picked by our media.


16 posted on 10/09/2013 6:28:17 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: Qwackertoo

Another Natural news site has the same type of info posted.
Fake web site. Look it up as FR won’t let it post.

Should anyone be surprised?

Has anybody considered the possibility that Healthcare.gov is just a front-end mockup of an online exchange.


17 posted on 10/09/2013 6:29:01 AM PDT by Southern by Grace (kickbacks, bribes, maifia payoffs is how the D's get R' done!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Anything in government which does not go well is a direct result of lack in funding. The bigger the failure the greater the lack of funding. This fact creates a disincentive to succeed at anything that is done by government. The trick is to grab the brass ring of funding by getting a congressional hearing over your failures in order to get the press to get the word out.


18 posted on 10/09/2013 6:30:17 AM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Maybe it was designed by Solendra staff!


19 posted on 10/09/2013 6:34:27 AM PDT by ZULU (Impeach that Bastard Barrack Hussein Obama)
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To: Sub-Driver

How many signed up? “The administration refuses to post those numbers”.


20 posted on 10/09/2013 6:34:35 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Mr. K

Yep. I’m a principal qa engineer and this looks like it wasn’t even smoke tested.


21 posted on 10/09/2013 6:35:03 AM PDT by TheRhinelander
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To: Sub-Driver

They’re not glitches. They’re human stupidity, expressed in computer code.


22 posted on 10/09/2013 6:36:35 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: Qwackertoo
You’d think the left would care they outsourced it to Canada. So much for their wanting to keep jobs in America.

I have to defend the Administration on that one. When it comes down to implementing a failed health care system, they went straight to the experts.

23 posted on 10/09/2013 6:36:54 AM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: jimjohn

I jokingly said “government bureaucrats” but it seriously looks like it was programmed by beginners

They didn’t even have the sense to consult with any company or companies that handle a huge volume of traffic like Amazon or Google to see what happens when a million people try to access your site all at once.


24 posted on 10/09/2013 6:38:24 AM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: TheRhinelander
I was a programmer for 25+ years.

I worked on a project that was poorly designed for a huge corporation with deep pockets.

Despite almost unlimited resources, the system failed because of the initial design.

Same thing is going to happen here. Even if they get it to sort of function, we the people will be required to serve the systems needs rather than ours.

25 posted on 10/09/2013 6:41:11 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (Tried to tell 'em Affirmative Action was a bad idea...Now look what happened!)
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To: Sub-Driver
we're recoding software

Anytime software is "recoded" the regression testing should be completely rerun. "Recoding" at this point is not a good thing as far as working software goes.

26 posted on 10/09/2013 6:41:34 AM PDT by MulberryDraw (That which cannot be paid, won't be paid.)
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To: Sub-Driver

I’m in IT. The developers and I have been discussing this since yesterday. The consensus is that it is a major CF and will probably take a year to be functional with only a handfull of the features they were trying to give it.

It suggests that the dems may cave not because of tenatious R.s, but because it won’t work anyway.

It is looking like a textbook example of wildly unreasonable management driven dates and shoddy BA work. I say that as a BA.


27 posted on 10/09/2013 6:42:36 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: Sub-Driver

The website, like obamacare, is designed to fail from the start.


28 posted on 10/09/2013 6:43:24 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Sub-Driver
"We've identified the glitches, we've added hardware, we're recoding software, and I can tell you today is better than yesterday, and we are hoping in the very near future to have a seamless process that's what we are aiming for," Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said.

Three years and virtually unlimited funds to finance and acquire whatever technical expertise and people was needed and this is what they accomplished. I don't think adding some servers and tweaking code is going to help.

obamacare is nothing but the largest slush fund in history, paying off the public sector unions, consulting firms, favored 'charities' such as Planned Parenthood, activist groups such as the NAACP, and other orgs too numerous to name. They - obama and company - truly don't give a damn if anyone is able to sign up. Meanwhile we have the political-fight-of-our-lives to stop this trillion dollar robbery.

29 posted on 10/09/2013 6:43:35 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Mr. K

They didn’t even have the sense to consult with any company or companies that handle a huge volume of traffic like Amazon or Google to see what happens when a million people try to access your site all at once.


We call those “non-functional requirements”, and that one is huge. Only rank amateurs would not consider it when observing the purpose of this app.


30 posted on 10/09/2013 6:44:06 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: Sub-Driver
"We've identified the glitches, we've added hardware, we're recoding software, and I can tell you today is better than yesterday, and we are hoping in the very near future to have a seamless process that's what we are aiming for," Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said.

Three years to get this thing launched, and they're "hoping in the near future to have a seamless process". What's the matter, Kathleen? Forget to include a contract provision for acceptance testing? I don't wish many people ill, but for this Nazi b!tch I'll make an exception. I just can't wait for the day that the undertaker stuffs a pound of cotton up her ass.

31 posted on 10/09/2013 6:46:51 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Sub-Driver

Hubby’s experience working with young college grads in IT and with young foreign programmers is that they are all clueless about how things work and how to make things work. The people hired to oversee or manage such projects are all clueless wonders. The directors are clueless wonders. Etc. LOL

I am wondering if they hired foreign company because all the good programmers for this sort of thing in the US are either employed doing something profitable or are conservative. They may have feared someone would deliberately sabotage the system. Hahaha

(Sitting in hospital waiting for son to have surgery).


32 posted on 10/09/2013 6:50:46 AM PDT by petitfour
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To: exDemMom

That would require that these fools could arrive at a logical conclusion. From the comments I’ve read on various sites the conclusion is that single payer will solve all these problems.


33 posted on 10/09/2013 6:52:42 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: cuban leaf

Ping.


34 posted on 10/09/2013 6:54:29 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: yldstrk
corrupt government thugs siphoned off the money and had some third rate outfit (maybe themselves, some “company” they quickly set up for the job) invent the web site

No doubt a "small, disadvantaged, minority female owned, Hub zone business".

35 posted on 10/09/2013 6:59:39 AM PDT by barefoot_hiker
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To: Sub-Driver

Major league farce. Now these people are responsible for your medical care. Because we all know the government can do things better than anyone else. Maybe Mr. Obama will give one of his magic speeches, and that will cure everything.


36 posted on 10/09/2013 6:59:54 AM PDT by popdonnelly (The right to self-defense is older than the Constitution.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Same here with MNSURE in Minnesota.


37 posted on 10/09/2013 6:59:55 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: Army Air Corps

heheh. I’m already here. ;-)


38 posted on 10/09/2013 7:02:00 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: petitfour

I’ve been thinking about you. How is your son? Can you direct me to any threads - I’ve been away from internet lately and probably missed it. Prayers for your son’s complete recovery.


39 posted on 10/09/2013 7:05:41 AM PDT by FrdmLvr
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To: Rusty0604

I hope that you are also commenting on those sites, about how this is just a taste of what “single-payer” health care will be like.


40 posted on 10/09/2013 7:06:41 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: Sub-Driver

No major corporation would roll out something like this without “ stress testing “ the systems capabilities first.


41 posted on 10/09/2013 7:07:07 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: TheRhinelander

Yep. I’m a principal qa engineer and this looks like it wasn’t even smoke tested.


Agree.

If Barry the Choom king heard that he would say “ where can I get some of that “

:):)


42 posted on 10/09/2013 7:09:07 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: Sub-Driver
Obamacare website looks "like nobody tested it," programmer says

The website is pure, unadulterated crap like everything else from the 0bama regime.

43 posted on 10/09/2013 7:10:31 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Who but a TYRANT shoves down another man's throat what he has exempted himself from?)
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To: Sub-Driver

I used to be a Fed contractor for very basic training software and online apps. I would have these bureaucratic cows sign off on every step, up to launch. Typically, they easily signed off at every stage. It wasn’t until after launch that they’d come back to me with changes and tweaks - proving to me that they just blindly signed the approvals. But, why should they care?? Expensive “re dos” don’t cost them anything at all since it’s other peoples’ money and they won’t be held to any accountability as they would in a private company.


44 posted on 10/09/2013 7:12:55 AM PDT by LittleBillyInfidel (This tagline has been formatted to fit the screen. Some content has been edited.)
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To: Sub-Driver
"Administration officials implementing the new health care law will be on the hot seat Wednesday as the House Oversight Committee hopes to find out what the problems were."

It's performing exactly as it was designed, and as intended. It was never about healthcare. Obama is nothing if not Fabian. What comes next: "Son of Obamacare," will finish us.
45 posted on 10/09/2013 7:15:02 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: Qwackertoo
You’d think the left would care they outsourced it to Canada.

Canada tried for over a decade to build an online long-gun registry that NEVER worked.


46 posted on 10/09/2013 7:32:03 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Sub-Driver
"It wasn't designed well, it wasn't implemented well, and it looks like nobody tested it," said Luke Chung, an online database programmer.

No Shiite Sherlock! No company where I have worked would have allowed such a fiasco to happen in the first place. Assuming some clueless VP was able to push such an abortion through to release, he/she would be sacked immediately.

I am very curious which zero crony got the contract to develop and deploy this POS!

47 posted on 10/09/2013 7:43:47 AM PDT by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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To: Sub-Driver

bump


48 posted on 10/09/2013 7:46:40 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: Mr. K

Someone on another post asked the simple question did they really want it to work or was this intentional so people can’t find out how much it’s going to cost them until after it’s implemented and can’t be stopped.


49 posted on 10/09/2013 7:49:23 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: FrdmLvr

Thank you for your prayers and concern! Our son is awaiting surgery today on his broken leg. They are keeping him sedated until some of the surgeries are behind him. If you click on my name and go to my previous posts, you should be able to get to the thread with updates. I would paste the link but can’t on this phone. Please keep Mikey in your prayers. These next few days are going to be rough.


50 posted on 10/09/2013 8:27:37 AM PDT by petitfour
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