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MSNBC’s Chris Hayes: The Problem is the Constitution
Townhall.com ^ | October 9, 2013 | Michael Schaus

Posted on 10/09/2013 8:21:23 AM PDT by Kaslin

There’s a narrative emerging among leftists pundits, commentators, and columnists that the current government shutdown is due to a fundamental flaw in the American form of government. Chris Hayes on MSNBC (ya know, the guy that looks like a 16 year old wannabe economist?) recently dedicated an entire segment of his show to exposing the “fatal flaw in our Constitution”.

According to MSNBC’s woefully statist anchor, our Constitutional form of government inhibits the ability for government to adequately (or speedily) race toward action. Which, in a way, is true. Fascism, in comparison, enables for a rapid-response-government that forfeits deliberation for action. And of course, that brings us to the main issue at hand: The Constitution was orchestrated with the very explicit purpose of derailing radical shifts in government.

Leave it to an MSNBC liberal, however, to take things a step further. The narrative, throughout Hayes’ segment, was that the “radical GOP” is exposing the flaw of America’s form of government. At one point the apparently constitutionally-ignorant host referred to the conservative wing of the Republican Party as the “most extreme” party in American history. I guess it’s nice to know that nothing has changed in over 150 years of GOP political involvement. . . I’m pretty sure that they were also described as “radical” when Lincoln was elected President.

More to his point, however, was the assertion that our government is incapable of functioning, due to the flawed design of the Constitution, and the “radical” nature of the GOP. . . Right. Because, an Executive Branch that openly admits it will “not negotiate” with the minority party is clearly not a causal player in today’s legislative gridlock.

The “modern GOP” is no different than any party that has held control of a portion of America’s legislative body. The minority party routinely wields its outsized influence to accrue a platform from which it can bully the majority into negotiations. That, contrary to the single-party ramblings of some left wing pundits, was not a flaw – but a deliberate design by the framers of the US Constitution.

To be fair, the historically ignorant Chris Hayes did, in fact, make a couple of correct points. His conclusions, however, were woefully off-base. At one point Hayes pointed out that our system is “an anomaly” in today’s world. But where Hayes sees that as a deficiency, our founders would no doubt see it as a badge of honor. Our anomalistic system is the reason we’ve historically been unmatched in our prosperity, equality, and individual liberty. Regardless of how desperately any political party, character, or movement would like to erode America’s fundamental existence, their intentions will be suspended by our cumbersome and intentionally deliberate form of government.

In fact, the shut-down illustrates the entire intent of the Constitution’s delegation of power. In the world envisioned by the authors of our founding document, Obamacare (regardless of its intentions, Constitutionality, or propriety) would not be fully implemented. Why?Because there is not a consensus among a wide enough swath of American citizens to give supporters political impunity.

It would almost seem as if things were working exactly as they should, according to our Constitution.

Then the segment got worse: Leave it to a Congressman from New York (Jerrold Nadler, Democrat) to make Hayes look like a simple victim of ignorance. As Hayes introduced his Congressional guest, the conversation quickly focused its narrative on the GOP’s culpability in obstructing America’s democratic potential. Nadler explained that Republicans are doing something “unprecedented” by allowing a minority movement (we have to assume he means “tea party” Republicans, and not Obamacare supporters) to control the “will of the majority”.

Um. . . Congressman, our system was set up to protect the minority from the will of the Majority. We are not a democracy, but a “Constitutional republic.” Citizens, therefore, are afforded the protection of representation with confidence that the majority will not strip from the minority their rights, liberty, or property. The Constitution is designed, specifically, to give the political minority outsized influence in governing as a form of protection from a “majority-rules” mentality.

This protection for minority interests inspired the creation of institutions such as the Electoral College. This was the thought behind divided government, filibusters, Supreme Court nominations, executive power limitations, the “checks and balances” of three branches, the length of elected terms, and almost every other provision in our Constitution that enables the minority a voice in the political direction of the nation.

What Hayes, Nadler, and progressive pundits across the nation, seem to be missing is that the system is working exactly as intended. What is not working, necessarily, is the art of negotiation. After all, it’s not as if America has never seen sharply divided political opinions before. Such political polarization, as it turns out, has been with this nation since our conception. And it was the art of negotiation, ironically, that lead the US to dissolve the Articles of Confederation in exchange for the Constitution shortly after our War for Independence.

The very document Hayes believes is “flawed” was written by men who were in the midst of equally troubling political times. Debate, gridlock, and political polarization are -- far from being a legislative nuisance -- vital to the long-term survival of the nation. The American form of government is not “fatally flawed” in the way that progressives would lead you to believe.

What is broken is the willingness to negotiate. And with a President, and Democrat leadership, who openly refuse to do just that, it is hard to make a legitimate case that the “radical” GOP is at fault for America’s political crises.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: antiamericanism; boycommunist; chrishayes; constitution; constitutionallaw; dnctalkingpoints; jerroldnadler; pmsnbc; pravdamedia; revisionisthistory; senatedemonrats
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To: Kaslin

Radical left floating trial balloon for Obama unilaterally raising the debt ceiling and declaring his own budget by executive fiat.


21 posted on 10/09/2013 8:38:56 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo ( Walker 2016)
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To: Kaslin

Yes, the Constitution is the problem for these “folks”.
It is an absolute obstacle to their radical Marxist approach to subversion of our Constitutional Republic.

Obama, et al, HATE THE CONSTITUTION and they have said so. They are Marxists and tyrants. It shows daily now.


22 posted on 10/09/2013 8:39:06 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Kaslin

Yes, the Constitution has is flawed if you want to run a centrally planned socialistic form of govt. It is designed to inhibit order and exalt freedom.

It’s the only reason we had a free country as long as we did. Now that our govt is starting to ignore it, we are the poorer for it.

We are founded on the idea of a country with a govt, NOT the reverse!


23 posted on 10/09/2013 8:39:27 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (....Let It Burn...)
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To: PATRIOT1876
In other words, MSLSD would rather have a monarchy

That would make it so much easier and socially acceptable to be a quisling or collaborator. These types would just love to spend their days pointing their cameras at people they believe to be Anti-Regime and turn them in with video "evidence". Railroad cars filled with Conservatives, Tea Party members, gun owners, you name it. All headed for the gas chambers while Liberal a-holes like Rachel Maddow, Chris Hayes and Bill Maher sit and rub their hands in delight.

Well....I have news for these types and they won't like it.

24 posted on 10/09/2013 8:41:34 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (So Obama "inherited" a mess? Firemen "inherit" messes too. Ever see one put gasoline on it?)
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To: PATRIOT1876
In other words, MSLSD would rather have a monarchy

I think what Hayes has in mind is something more on the North Korean model.

25 posted on 10/09/2013 8:44:10 AM PDT by mojito (Zero, our Nero.)
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To: Last Dakotan

What is it with all these metro sexual looking freaks? Schulman & Werful of the IRS, now this guy.


26 posted on 10/09/2013 8:44:34 AM PDT by Bronzewound (Lost Hope & Loose Change)
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To: yldstrk
I totally agree there is a fatal flaw THERE IS NO CHECK ON THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH

Because of Court packing and Legislative branch acquiescence. Progressives understood this long ago. To correct this, Conservatives must tread carefully and intelligently. I only hope we can without serious (read: violent) opposition.

I don't know.....
27 posted on 10/09/2013 8:44:47 AM PDT by 98ZJ USMC
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To: Kaslin

Chris who? Does anyone watch MSNBC anymore?


28 posted on 10/09/2013 8:45:54 AM PDT by matt04
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To: Kaslin

TRY TO REMOVE THE CONSTITUTION AND WAR WILL ENSUE.


29 posted on 10/09/2013 8:46:13 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: Fightin Whitey

I’m sure he was neutered long time ago.


30 posted on 10/09/2013 8:47:54 AM PDT by matt04
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To: Kaslin
The WH has submitted budgets. They usually get voted down in the Senate unanimously. What the president has not done is submitted his required budget requests on time.

What started as a Pelosi-Reid attempt to avoid passing a record deficit budget in an election year has now become a habit. They are using the (stupid) baseline increase to keep spending money when they know they can't pass a similar budget with a vote. The only way to stop it is for the House to grow a pair and say no more CRs until the Senate goes to conference. Only one more CR during that process. If that CR expires we shut the government down until a real budget passes.

31 posted on 10/09/2013 8:48:33 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: EagleUSA

They are emboldened, seeing their dream nearly realized, and are starting to say in the light of day what they only whispered in corners before.


32 posted on 10/09/2013 8:49:20 AM PDT by Bronzewound (Lost Hope & Loose Change)
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To: Kaslin

In other words, the Constitution is doing what it was intended to do.


33 posted on 10/09/2013 8:49:37 AM PDT by billhilly
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To: 98ZJ USMC

“Our job is to give the American people the government they need.”

Go ahead, violate the Constitution, written by your mental superiors... two hundred years ago.

And our job will be to give you what you deserve.


34 posted on 10/09/2013 8:50:45 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Kaslin
Leave it to an MSNBC liberal

These people aren't liberal. They are authoritarian.

35 posted on 10/09/2013 8:53:54 AM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: Kaslin
Leave it to an MSNBC liberal

These people aren't liberal. They are authoritarian.

36 posted on 10/09/2013 8:53:54 AM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: yldstrk

If you have a president who governs within the limits of the Constitution, you have two checks on the Executive Power: The Legislature and the Courts.

Obama has repeatedly ignored both of these. The only fatal flaw is that there is no mechanism to immediately deep-six a president who oversteps these limits.


37 posted on 10/09/2013 8:55:40 AM PDT by livius
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

communists, which they are, are authoritarian


38 posted on 10/09/2013 8:56:02 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin
Well Chris, I took an oath to protect, and defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic, and an oath is forever. Therefore, I must be a problem in your eyes, Chris.

Chris, just to be clear, I AM a problem for you and your fellow marxists. How? The U.S. Army taught me how to kill efficiently, and effectively.

Bummer, huh Chris?

5.56mm

39 posted on 10/09/2013 8:57:19 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Kaslin; All

40 posted on 10/09/2013 9:01:52 AM PDT by Bronzewound (Lost Hope & Loose Change)
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