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Ryan Pushing Means Testing for SS Benefits?
10/9/13 | Originalbuckeye

Posted on 10/09/2013 10:15:32 AM PDT by originalbuckeye

I just heard my Conservative radio hosts discussing what is being put on the table by the Republicans in the House. They said Ryan is pushing means testing for SS benefits.


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So, if my husband and I have been diligently saving and contributing to 401Ks for our retirement, we are going to be punished by fewer benefits?? APPALLING! Just give me the money back that I have put into SS for the last 45 years!
1 posted on 10/09/2013 10:15:32 AM PDT by originalbuckeye
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"..... money back that I have put into SS for the last 45 years! "

With interest and adjusted for Fed inflation.

2 posted on 10/09/2013 10:17:01 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: originalbuckeye

I don’t like this but this is bound to happen for more and more gov programs.


3 posted on 10/09/2013 10:17:08 AM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: originalbuckeye

No.


4 posted on 10/09/2013 10:17:14 AM PDT by garyb
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To: originalbuckeye

A cosmetic bandaid. Nothing more.


5 posted on 10/09/2013 10:18:42 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: Paladin2

It has to happen. The country is functionally broke.

That my wealthy parents earn SS while my poor daughter pays in is totally stupid.

I know that I will be the guy who gets screwed in all of this.

But anyone who doesn’t think this will happen is smokin’ some really fine weed.


6 posted on 10/09/2013 10:18:51 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Need health care? Dial 1-800-F1UCK-YO to reach Obama's hotline)
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With interest and adjusted for Fed inflation.

I'd just be glad to get back what they took at this point.

7 posted on 10/09/2013 10:19:04 AM PDT by Lakeshark (Mr Reid, tear down this law!)
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To: originalbuckeye

They sure don’t use means testing when applying the taxes to our paychecks. If this story is true, it sounds like they’re getting it backwards again—are they going to penalize people who have actually saved for their retirements and reward people who haven’t?


8 posted on 10/09/2013 10:19:09 AM PDT by seanmerc
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To: originalbuckeye

Never happen. USA has gone entitlement crazy like zombies is World War Z.


9 posted on 10/09/2013 10:19:24 AM PDT by whitedog57
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To: originalbuckeye

Means test Congressional perks and retirements first.


10 posted on 10/09/2013 10:19:28 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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>> So, if my husband and I have been diligently saving and contributing to 401Ks for our retirement, we are going to be punished by fewer benefits??

Sends a message, doesn’t it?

It’s an evil government that incentivizes reckless behavior while punishing those who act with wisdom and foresight.


11 posted on 10/09/2013 10:19:39 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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I don’t mind means testing for it if they allow me to opt out of it and not pay it.

It would even be worth discarding all the money I put into it for the last forty years.

Hell, I am never going to see a cent from Social Security anyway, so that is an easy promise for me to make.


12 posted on 10/09/2013 10:19:41 AM PDT by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by its weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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Agreed, in spades. There are problems with the Social Security System, but it is NOT a welfare benefit for most of us. Most of us were forced to put more money into the system than we will ever get out again. I’m on Social Security, and I could have gotten maybe two or three times as much if I had been allowed to invest the same amount of money myself.

Punishing people who have contributed to Social Security all their lives makes about as much sense as Obamacare.

And the “wealthier” ones were the folks who paid the most into the system, while the poorer ones are the folks some of whom are getting more out than they put in.

Is this guy’s name Franklin Delano Ryan?


13 posted on 10/09/2013 10:19:48 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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You realize of course, the money you put in is for people already retired. Your benefits will come from people who are working after you retire. GIANT PONZI SCHEME.

I know you already knew that. It doesn’t make it better.


14 posted on 10/09/2013 10:20:06 AM PDT by SolidRedState (I used to think bizarro world was a fiction.)
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Wonder if the “means” threshold will be based on individual income or household income?

Makes a big difference when there’s more than a couple years difference between the couple’s ages.


15 posted on 10/09/2013 10:20:24 AM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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To: Uncle Miltie

The big trade needs to be that I get screwed, but my daughter is off the hook, and we kill Social Security as it is.

We can replace it with a welfare program for the poverty stricken elderly.

But my daughter stops paying into SS forever.

Deal?


16 posted on 10/09/2013 10:20:47 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Need health care? Dial 1-800-F1UCK-YO to reach Obama's hotline)
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To: SolidRedState

Take it from Bammy’s sta$h.


17 posted on 10/09/2013 10:21:47 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: originalbuckeye

It’s only fair!/s


18 posted on 10/09/2013 10:21:59 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Uncle Miltie
It has to happen. The country is functionally broke.

Gotta agree with that. The money ain't there and it ain't going to be coming in. However, it would be a good idea to make everybody on disability get re-evaluated every 3 years or so - along with an audit/cross reference on their earnings while they were "disabled".

19 posted on 10/09/2013 10:22:21 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: Uncle Miltie

John Galt is not paying FICA taxes.


20 posted on 10/09/2013 10:22:45 AM PDT by Paladin2
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